Opeth, I disagree that pop is the simplest form of music... One of the simpler forms, definetly, but not the simplest. I'd say rap is the simplest. If you consider it music, of course, which I don't...
I find is discouraging that many people think that Pink Floyd went way down hill after Waters left...
A Momentary Lapse of Reason was the second of their albums I bought(Dark Side of the Moon was first, of course). I loved it. Every day for a period of three months I would look forward to coming home and listening to that cd... Signs of life being a mellow, almost trance, piece, with learning to fly being unusually poppy for a Floyd song, The Dogs of War an OK(I appreciate it more now) song, but leading up to something better. One Slip has pretty cool bass, but I think the song was pretty weak for being the title song(or whatever you call it)... On The Turning Away is a beautiful piece, though. Lyrically and musically it just plain rocks. The New Machine things are kinda weird... Terminal Frost is pretty cool, a good instrumental. And Sorrow was is also really good, though I think they should have had the full versions of Marooned and Echoes on Echoes instead of it.
The Division Bell is one of my favorite albums. The whole thing shows that even though they're old and greying, they can still make awesome, groundbreaking music. They even won a grammy for Marooned, one of their best instrumentals in my opinion.
I don't really like their old psychadelic stuff though... I think if Syd hadn't left they wouldn't have gone nearly as far as they have. Astronomy Domine is OK, but I think they did it far better in Pulse. And some of the other stuff... Wow. I can't believe people could label DSOTM as acid rock and not Piper At the Gates of Dawn...
Again, I say that music has not always been angry. Sure, parents thought Elvis and The Beatles to be terrible... But it's totally different. Did the Beatles ever sing about killing themselves or killing other people? Did they play no more than three chords? No. They sang about drugs and love and other random things(I don't listen to them an awful lot anymore), they weren't targetting angst ridden teens... I doubt they were targetting anyone. They were just expressing themselves. Same with Elvis. Parents hated him because he was too sexual, not because he was angry.
I know new teens will replace the old ones... But music is an ever changing form of expression. That crap is "in" right now. Soon it'll be out, and no one will remember them. Hell, they may even be considered a terrible product of the decade, like pop stars from the 80s... Although I personally like 80s music(I was born in that decade, after all)
What I find ironic here is that none of those bands actually have teens in them... They can't be angst ridden teens, so they are obviously targetting those kids on purpose. And I agree about the lack of depth involved. How does sayinghow angry you are and going "ahhhhhh" every now and then make you deep? To me, for a song to be deep, it must have good lyrics. However, to be good it must have good music. I like Pink Floyd and Queensryche and other progressive rock/metal bands because they are both.