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Connel
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0 posted 11-04-2002 03:53 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

Hello.... I would like to know where i can go to to post my poems,.. AND, where someone will tell me the mistakes or things i need.


Thank you..
serenity blaze
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1 posted 11-04-2002 04:03 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

That's quite a woim yer wigglin there Connel...nice to meet you, they call me "serenity"--don't let the name fool ya!

But let's see...if you'd like to post in the forums? it's always a good idea to check out the guidelines first:
http://piptalk.com/pip/guidelines/rules.html

and then...just check it out. Open is cool for all moods. good place to start, but BUSY. If you like a slower pace? you might wanna check out another forum. It's apples and oranges, bananas and pears here....HAVE FUN AND WELCOME.
Connel
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2 posted 11-04-2002 04:11 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

dude, ive posted in these forums already,.. i just want to post my poem, and people telling me what is wrong with it.. Thats it...

I wish to become a great poet some day, but it will only come in time. Til then, I shall write my poems, and wait.

serenity blaze
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3 posted 11-04-2002 04:20 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

TELL YA WHAT DUDE? um...checking here..serenity is still not a dude, inspite of the hormone thing...why don't you send me your poem? I'll give it a looksee? can't say it will pass guideline? but? I've had some experience with these here moderators! *serenity pulls up her gun belt in her best Barney Fife imitation*

seriously lovie...let's see what the problem is....
Connel
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4 posted 11-04-2002 04:25 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

........ Never mind dude.. ill just stay in the forum that im in.. but the only thing people say/comment on the poems is that they are good, thats it,... They dont tell you what you could do to improve or anything.. Thats why i was asking.. i have posted all my poems there and all they say is that their good... But the reason why i came here is i thuogh that i could get better here, and how do you get better? you write more.. But how do you get better faster? with somebody elses help. Thats why i wanted to know.. if ya dont know.. its okay.. But i thought i would ask.
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5 posted 11-04-2002 04:31 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

try Critical Analysis..the C/A forum...

curtsey to ya....

(serenity exits...JAMMING ON..HEY WHAT IS THIS? OH..Marilyn Manson--the fight song? How'd did THIS get on here...hold on...let me go thank my son...)
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6 posted 11-04-2002 05:11 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

quote:
But the reason why i came here is i thuogh that i could get better here, and how do you get better? you write more.. But how do you get better faster? with somebody elses help. Thats why i wanted to know.. if ya dont know.. its okay.. But i thought i would ask.


Yes, Connel, you do want to try putting your poetry in the Critical Analysis Forum.  You will get indepth critiquing, but as for "getting better faster", I don't know that even those that visit CA will agree with that.  Writing, as with any art form, takes time.  It's not like catching a jet over a train just to arrive across country faster.  As with any art form, it sometimes takes students years to acquire that which they are looking for.

If you are in a rush to pen a masterpiece to enter into a contest, good luck.  Again, as Serenity pointed out, getting into Critical Analysis is a first step; getting in to the Poetry Workshop and English Forum would be good choices to enhance your writing abilities, as well.

Good luck on your endeavors!
Not A Poet
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7 posted 11-04-2002 05:47 PM       View Profile for Not A Poet   Email Not A Poet   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Not A Poet's Home Page   View IP for Not A Poet

Another thing you should do is edit your profile. Right now it says you do not encourage critique. Changing that to yes will help. But if you post in CA, the assumption is that you do want critique, regardless of your profile.

Pete

Never express yourself more clearly than you can think - Niels Bohr

Connel
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8 posted 11-04-2002 10:06 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

I just changed it... Can you believe that i posted 40 posts in one day?

I wish to become a great poet some day, but it will only come in time. Til then, I shall write my poems, and wait.

Connel
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9 posted 11-04-2002 10:12 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

I still dont understand, what does critique actually do.. it allows people to say bad things of my poetry, but, how?

I wish to become a great poet some day, but it will only come in time. Til then, I shall write my poems, and wait.

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10 posted 11-04-2002 10:31 PM       View Profile for Kielo   Email Kielo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kielo

It allows people to tell you how you can make the poem better. When you click to reply to a poem, it shows the critique message. This lets people know whether it is alright or not to tell you how your poem could be improved.

I don't care if you're an old fart, because old people are smarter than me.

-Me. (reply in the Alley)

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11 posted 11-04-2002 10:39 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Connel, we don't talk poetry "down" around here.  We can point out variants and nuances, and you can take the input and think it over, redraft your work [Critical Analysis Forum is great for this way of working through your poetry] and re-submit it.

Yes, several of us have various ways in which we critique a poem.  But for the most part, while we point out several things, for the most part it is done in a friendly, helpful manner.  

You might want to read around in that forum to get a gist of its flavor.  I know I was very nervous the first few times, but if you look down the list and find a post I made a few weeks back, you will see that they hijacked my poem and had a wonderful time with it!  I got a lot of good input, and then they veered off onto another subject entirely, but [and here's the really neat part] I learned from THAT, too!

Keep asking questions...we'll keep providing the answers.  With over 5,000 members, we have got a lot of people who have answers!
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12 posted 11-05-2002 02:17 AM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

You mean I could get better?   Well then, I am off to school too, but I warn you I am so thick skulled, I hope the da dum lessons sink in.

Connel - Read a lot in here too, that sure helps you see what "feels" right to you, and eventually you get a sense of what sounds and reads well and you will emulate it in your own unique style.  Always spell check your work or replies in word or some other word processing program (after all we serious poets and writers have our reputation at stake here),   and above all else, write for yourself first and foremost, and have fun!


           
A smile costs nothing, give one away and make someone rich.

[This message has been edited by Mysteria (11-05-2002 02:28 PM).]

Connel
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13 posted 11-06-2002 07:47 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

Thank you all for the help.. you have really helped me out a lot...


Once again. Thank you.

I wish to become a great poet some day, but it will only come in time. Til then, I shall write my poems, and wait.

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14 posted 11-06-2002 09:34 PM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

And think about enrolling in poetry workshop, if you want critiques, there are plenty in there!
Connel
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15 posted 11-06-2002 10:58 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

Thanks for the type wind.

I wish to become a great poet some day, but it will only come in time. Til then, I shall write my poems, and wait.

Connel
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16 posted 11-06-2002 10:58 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

TYPEO *TIP*

I wish to become a great poet some day, but it will only come in time. Til then, I shall write my poems, and wait.

Allysa
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17 posted 11-08-2002 10:47 AM       View Profile for Allysa   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Allysa

We have a crit. anal. forum?  *scratches head*

Ack! Just read the abbreviations at the top.... debate is definitely going to my head... I was mumbling counterpoints in my sleep last night....

"Wie ein Quadrat in einem Kreis, eck' ich immer wieder an obwohl ich doch schon lange weiß, daß ich niemals ändern kann." ~Wizo

 
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