Well I for one am gonna disagree with Ron,
It's good that she aired this in public...I mean how else would she get soooo many wise responses about people, sexual beliefs or tolerance(I came back to edit this (and reword a few things), so I could say that the above is not meant as sarcasm, I really do think there was a lot of good advice offered to her). I mean obviously she wasn't getting very good guidance behind closed doors or from friends or family...otherwise she wouldn't have said what she did. Ignorance breeds in silence. I'd rather hear Nazis spouting anti-semitism publically than to have them meet in secret places and plan hateful things...at least when someone publically vocalizes something we are allowed a chance to rebute it.
Seeing Julie change her opinions is the very example that should be used of why it is sometimes better to hear not only good and positive words but the angry and hurtful ones as well. If we never hear them, how can we change them. Issues need to be talked about and since I say "phooewy!" at anyone's claim to their close friends and family having all the answers, I say let some issues be talked about publically, now I'm not saying let the leader of the Third Reich take up a soap box here at PIP and ask the us to help build an Uber race, but I'm saying maybe you're being a little hard lined on this subject.
I think WhtRose made some good observations by touching on the subject that maybe Julie didn't mean it the way it was interpreted, (she should work on her communicating skills - and maybe we should all work on our listening skills too), and that some people find it difficult to match their thoughts with wording that we can all appreciate. I think Julie suffers from this, I think she has a hard time communicating what is really on her mind not only about this but about most things (please take no offense in this Julie, I'm not meaning it as an attack). Basically when I read Julie's opening statement, (knowing very little about her), I read into it as she being a bit confused about her own sexuality, that though the girl hitting on her has startled her a bit, she also made her more curious about her own sexuality and is probably wondering what it is like to be with a woman and maybe even fishing to see what others think about this...wondering if this is "acceptable" behaviour. I would even guess that in the back of her mind she probably has at least once, thought about taking this girl up on her offer. I say this because without any of us knowing her sexuality or questioning it she has made it a point to defend it proclaiming to us all that she is straight, as in an attempt to justify herself to herself by telling everyone that she is "normal" and not one of those "funny" people who like the same sex. Hence the "Ewwww." as well, the same wording that all kids use to describe the person who who they have a crush on....also used to describe brussel sprouts too, so I don't know how much validity my words have. I dunno if I'm right about all the above, I might just be full of turd... just a guess so please if ya jump on my back, use one foot instead of two
Anyways, I'm not trying to defend Julie or what she said, her hang-ups are her own problem - I'm neither a bartender or a psychologist(sp?), I'm only sticking up for the belief that it is through the vocalization of bad ideas that we are able to curb these thoughts into good ideas before they become bad actions. And like I said earlier, we don't all have the luxury of having wise family and friends to help guide us.
Well the meter's up, gotta go,
T Rev or
[This message has been edited by Trevor (10-11-2002 02:56 PM).]