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Acies
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75 posted 06-19-2002 08:12 PM       View Profile for Acies   Email Acies   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Acies

I guess I'm a little late on this but still.....

All I want to see is for the teens who obviously care about the current situation (glad to see that the loss of Teen Chat has not stopped them from coming to PIP) to come and share your poems again in Teen Poetry.

là où est mon amour?
donde está mi amour?
wo ist meine Liebe?
Nelly Furtado é a menina a mais bonita no mundo largo do todo.

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76 posted 06-20-2002 10:53 PM       View Profile for Skyfire   Email Skyfire   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfire

It's kind of ironic that many of the people in Teen Chat who pushed everyone else to go to Teen Poetry are completely gone from PIP now that Teen Chat is gone. I know I don't post as much as I should, but I love this place. I don't want to abandon it, Teen Chat or no Teen Chat.
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77 posted 06-20-2002 11:21 PM       View Profile for PoetryIsLife   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PoetryIsLife

As soon as I am able to find the time, and the poetic 'groove,' I'm looking forward to posting and responding to poetry again. I'd never leave pip. How could one? I miss Teen Chat in certain ways, but mostly, think it's good it's gone. It had lost focus of it's origonal purpose.

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78 posted 06-22-2002 01:04 AM       View Profile for Kosetsu   Email Kosetsu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kosetsu

Hmm...

Touchy subject, it seems. I've been a member of PIP for a little over a year..and through low times and high times in my life since then, I've been back and forth. My first poem was posted in Teen Poetry, and every poem since then, aside from the occasional few posted in Dark, was posted in Teen Poetry. I rarely, if ever, ventured into the other discussion forums.

As I said, I drifted between here and there. Usually the low times brought me back, because that was where my poetry really hits the strength and emotion that most of my friends seem to enjoy about them. The reason I'm returning now is because one of those low times has hit.

Teen Chat faltered. No doubt about that. However, it is true that drugs, suicide, self-harm, and the like are integral parts of our society. I've dealt with all three personally. My poems reflect what I feel. If I'm feeling suicidal...the poem will be about suicide. When that poem is posted, then pulled for its content, I stop posting any other poem with that sort of content. Unless something particularly uplifting happens, that usually means the number of poems I post in a given time drops to only one poem every few weeks, as opposed to 2-3 a day.

As for replies...I'll admit that maybe I didn't reply to poems as much as I should have. I replied to the few that truly touched me, or that I particularly found the style amusing. But I read countless poems, and enjoyed many of them. I truly think the replies part is a useless point.

It could possibly be said that the only thing that unified much of Teen Chat was when Teen Chat was pulled. I'm not quite sure who mentioned the facts about the discussions being in a closed forum, but I have to agree. Someone else noted, (Ron, I believe) that all a person had to do was sign up for a deputy mod term. Not everyone wants a moderator job, even a temporary one. If I'd ever been offered one, I'd likely have turned it down, simply because I'm not the type of person that likes that sort of responsibility. I think Ron also said there were about 25 deputy moderators from Teen in that discussion. Maybe this is more of a personal problem with those deputy mods, but I for one would like to know why the rest of us at Teen were not informed that such discussions were going on. I found it quite a shock to find my beloved Teen Chat, as chaotic as it was, to suddenly have vanished when I logged in one day.

Personally, I don't know where I stand at the moment. All I've got to say at this moment is that if Teen Chat is reinstated, don't name it Teen Chat if you don't want to attract chatters.

-Adam
P.S. My apologies if this post was as incoherent to anyone as it is to me. Right now I'm just feeling pretty blah, and I have no idea what I just typed.
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79 posted 06-22-2002 01:18 PM       View Profile for Toad   Email Toad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Toad


Kosetsu

It made perfect sense to me, although not a teen (by what seems like a thousand years) I found myself agreeing with almost every point you made, I’ve even raised a few of them myself especially the ‘behind closed doors discussion’ point.

My best guess is that Teen Chat won’t make a reappearance under any name and I for one think that that’s a pity, there were a lot of things it could have become beside the chaotic place it eventually did. Personally I believe the blame for that doesn’t rest entirely on the people posting there.
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80 posted 06-22-2002 01:39 PM       View Profile for Ron   Email Ron   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ron's Home Page   View IP for Ron

For clarification, it wasn't me who referenced the Deputy Moderator Forum and earlier discussions there about Teen Chat. Nor did I suggest people should sign up as a DM. Conversations in that forum are necessarily confidential and gaining access to those conversations is NOT a valid reason to become a DM.

Those "hidden" conversations tried to fix some of the problems in Chat, and unlike many of the conversations in that forum, they could have been done publicly. But at no time were they meant to be warnings. Warning toddlers when they break rules makes sense because they have limited understanding and a very short attention span. As they get older, however, they should learn to expect repercussions when they break rules. The rules, in a very real sense, ARE the warning.

There is a line, albeit blurry, at which point warnings become threats. That's a line I try very hard to never cross, and I'll readily admit that perhaps I try too hard. Maybe I should warn people more than I do. In this instance, however, I don't think it would have made any difference. There were far too many people in the Chat forum who should have gone to a Teen forum and not a Poetry forum. They will be happier for finding a more suitable place to hang, and the rest of us can get back to our real focus. I don't see how a warning, or a long series of warnings, would ever change that.

There WILL eventually be a resurrection, and I am still hoping that some of our more responsible teens can offer suggestions on the form that rebirth should take?

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81 posted 06-22-2002 05:43 PM       View Profile for PoetryIsLife   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PoetryIsLife

I honestly wonder if it can be brought anew, reborn, without the same failures or problems that brought it down this time. If you offer a redesgined teen forum, wouldn't the possibility of it degenerating into what it had become still be there, perhaps with more safeguards? The fact that it was a Teen Forum appealed to me, back nearly a year ago, because there weren't any other places like it out there. Thing is, it was for poetry, not the level of idleness that had taken over. The members that used it, including myself at times, for some reason simply weren't interested in discussing poetry. Most of the discussion was of no consequence. A lot of members tried to bring back the poetic part of the discussion, but, mostly that failed. Perhaps warnings to keep the idle conversation to a minimum; more deputy moderators; poetically inclind(sp?) discussion topics that don't fall/drop, but remain there daily as reminders. There could be options. It was an enjoyable place, but, with how much it easily took away from the poetry forum.... I wonder if it needs to be brought back. It was a haven for a lot of people, but the purpose of this site is poetry, not hanging out. Whatever decision is made, I'll respect.

Sincerely,
Titus

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