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God and Harry Potter

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wayoutwalt
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If God were not real-let’s try to pretend
Just a fairy tale, though nicely was penned
Then comes the movie and all of the fans
Buy up the tickets with their sweaty hands
That hold the mint cards, collector items
All of the scripture, they easily site ‘em
And all the shirts say, “God: Soon Is Coming”
The movie would be the longest running
Sitcoms would prevail and cartoons would too
And people would watch, their eyes like glue
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers to follow
All the truths found not hard to swallow
The coming of Christmas God would be known
The sparkling toy, children must own
God would pose pictures at every mall
With jolly old lap in which you could crawl
Up and tell him, this year, you want God
You won't hear him speak just watch as he nods
And God would be "in" the rest of the year
Until a a new movie was looming near
Plastic God toys break off at their arms
Kids trade them in for ruby red charms
Nothing would happen to sons and daughters
Here would come slither a Harry Potter
I heard a kid ask his dumbfounded friend
"Is there anything wrong if we just pretend?"


(of course I am the biggest Star Wars fan ever but I am learning)
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1 posted 11-18-2001 11:08 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

Walt,
Really? You are good! Amen.  

Sin isn't fair, but God got even, grace isn't fair either.  larry c

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2 posted 11-18-2001 11:49 PM       View Profile for EagleScorpion   Email EagleScorpion   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for EagleScorpion

I just saw Harry Potter today.. I must say Walt it was a really good movie. I was thinking to myself about "how does all of this tie in with God?" (that is, if Harry Potter magic DID exist, which it DOESN'T <> )
Make believing is a wonderful thing.. I think everyone should take a chance to just make belive about something every now and then
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In my belief you can practice witchcraft and dark magic and the devil will just grab hold of you and again in my belief playing with it is like playing with fire. Thanks for the comments o yuh
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*giggling* I think I will just stick to weaving fantasies with my pen. This is really good, Walt. Now I am going to have to go see the movie. I love those kind of movies.  

Love I leave with you whether it is in your life now or yet the essense of your dreams.

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5 posted 11-19-2001 12:42 AM       View Profile for wayoutwalt   Email wayoutwalt   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wayoutwalt

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh do what you want to do Startime but don't let me think I caused you to go see the movie!!! yuh yuh

[This message has been edited by wayoutwalt (edited 11-19-2001).]

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6 posted 11-19-2001 02:12 AM       View Profile for Blackdrake   Email Blackdrake   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Blackdrake

Biggest star wars fan eh?   hehe    ill fight ya for that title . Only one problem, I was not alive to see the originals..  But alas life goes on....  

and yet again, anothet movie i should go see, to see what we are showing out kids these days, ...  honest ......  hehehe  
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aw geez, Walt...you know I love you, and I love your work but do we add The Classics too? "The Wizard of Oz"? "Mary Poppins"? and Grimms Fairytales are downright, well, GRIM.
Perhaps this my answer is more suited for the discussion forum, but while I think this is well written, I do politely disagree.
I am Wiccan--and trust me---Harry Potter is a fantasy that has little to do with the reality of the practice of that religion and I must also decry censorship. With hugs, Walt. (By the way, am waiting for part II of your prose story, "The Imaginings")  
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Well, I've read the first Harry Potter book, and saw the movie. I liked them both. I think it is a great imagination and fun, and as enjoyable to read as Tolkien's 'Hobbit' series, and Tad Williams 'Otherland', and of course, 'Alice In Wonderland.'  Your poem is very interesting, as are all of your posts. But I'm afraid my POV on this one is a polar opposite.
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While everybody was lining up for the Harry Potter stuff I was watching the movie "Amelie"...a very French movie...it was fantastic...simply fantastic...James
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Two lines of thought, and it takes a poet to bring it to the table in wonderful form...

well done, our Walt!
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11 posted 11-19-2001 11:06 AM       View Profile for wayoutwalt   Email wayoutwalt   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wayoutwalt

All the old tales what makes them any better? is it that they are old? God casts magic users into the fire of lake (Revelations 21) and hows it any better for a kid to go to the movie and wish they could be like Harry than it is for a lustful eye to follow a naked woman in a porno. God calls that sin as well. Watch what your kids are pretending.... Oh and dont let me tell you what to do or anything... Thanks as always for the comments yuh
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I applaud you, Walt, for being so bold about such a controversial topic. . . and put it into poetry. I absolutely agree with you and God's word regarding wizardry, sorcery, black magic, mediums and witchcraft. Kudos for stating where you stand when so many people see this danger as harmless fun.

[This message has been edited by elisaseyes (edited 11-19-2001).]

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Hi Walt..gee, it is very hard for me to say too much on this topic, being in the profession of magically entertaining youngsters for more years than I can even remember.  I would invite you to visit my site if you have not as yet.  
A very good write and always topical.
Magical smiles, Nancy. www.MyMagicLand.homestead.com

~I've loved you forever, in lifetimes before.~

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Gee, I must be missing the point (I do that on occassion). I thought this was a great idea for a poem. I can imagine that, if there were no God and a producer came up with the idea of one for a movie, the hype that is used in these days would be awesome, especially with the special effects available today. SEE NOAH SAIL FOR 40 DAYS WITH TWO MEMBERS OF EVERY ANIMAL SPECIES ON EARTH AS THE WORLD IS COVERED WITH A GIANT FLOOD!!! SEE DANIEL SURVIVE THE LION'S DEN FILLED WITH FEROCIOUS BEASTS! WATCH DAVID SLAY A GIANT WITH A PRIMITIVE WEAPON! BEHOLD THE BURNING BUSH AND WATCH IN AWE AS JESUS RISES FROM THE DEAD!! Wow! If it were nothing but a movie script, Hollywood could go crazy in pre-opening hype! I assume that this is the tongue-in-cheek comparison Walt is pointing out in his incomparable style...so, if I missed something, don't tell me! - I like it this way  
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Yuh thats it 'deer just a comparison of what if they hyped God and how easily things are gorgotten when something new comes along...oh and also the perils of pretend...not that I don't love a good imagination yuh
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16 posted 11-19-2001 11:18 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

Hey Walt! You've expressed your opinion well here. I agree that there are some things that can be really dangerous. Not sure yet if Harry Potter is one of them, because I'm still learning too. Anyway, good poem.  

God bless America, my home sweet home.

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this poem is just what the dr. ordered!  imaginication is cool and fantasy the like but God rulez.  careful what you wish for.  well written
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I can only continue this in a discussion type forum. But please people, do keep in mind, that I can sling back chapter and verse...instead I invite all to a sensible discussion, to be conducted with respect and tolerance for all beliefs in one of the discussion forums, or whatever venue. But realize, that I do take my religion seriously--AS DO YOU--not something I drew in cartoons--and I would appreciate the same respect that I show others. Thank you. And Blessed Be.
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I understand that I have hurt some feelings with this and I am sorry... I wrote it with intentions to remind fellow Christians that our beliefs do not go with the beliefs of wizards and pretending to do so, as children would if they saw the movie, is a very dangerous thing to dabble in. Its only my belief, do please feel free to disagree with it and we can all get along.
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I agree, Walt. As Christian parents and grandparents we have to be so careful as to what we allow our little ones to be exposed. Not everything, no matter how culturally popular, is edifying or in their best interest mentally and spiritually. It's possible to portray fantasy and stimulate imagination and a love of reading without resorting to the trappings of the occult. Other's are entitled to their opinions and beliefs, of course, just as we are entitled to ours, but no one is responsible for our children except for us. I don't agree with censorship but I do advocate that parents take responsibility for that which they allow their children to become involved in. I've read many articles, pro and con, regarding the Harry Potter phenomenon and I found it peculiar that the predominant kudos were, "it's got kids interested in reading again", "it's a smash box-office hit", "the books are flying off the shelves", etc., but not a word addressing the affect that the occult theme could have on young impressionable minds. Not everything that kids are interested in is good for them. Just because something is a smash hit in the theatre or the book store, that is not necessarily a vindication of a movie or a book. It just means that it is popular, nothing more, nothing less. You done good, Walt! O Yuh!
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I am just glad that my parents did not try so hard to protect me from evil that they refused to let me read about King Arthur and Merlin...and that they allowed me to watch FantasyLand and go to the Magic Kingdom. They even allowed me, and encouraged me, to believe in Santa Claus, knowing that he was a mythical figure and a lie....I suppose I would have been much better off with no magic or fantasy in my growing-up years.....but I doubt it  
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Love this, Walt. Long live magic
Sandra

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Balladeer, you took the words right out of my mouth. Was that a magic trick? I fail to see the difference in "harm" between the perennial Christmas tree and that jolly old fat man who drops down the chimney (hope it got swept clean this year!) and Harry on a broomstick, or waving magically to fend off the "bad" guys. I remember someone telling me the Lion King was sexist and a perversion of God's separation of the animals from the human's traits. But I do agree it is a good idea to be aware of what your children are watching and listening to, and a responsible caring parent should always strive to be a hands-on available trust worthy guide.
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I'll leave all the discussion up to everyone else. All I know is I want to go see the movie and I'm too old to see it by myself (all the kids'll be going..."hey...what's that lady doing seeing a kids movie"?? ) So I'm asking my brother if I can borrow my niece for a few hours and take her. That way, I get to see it without looking like a dork!! LOL

If she who dies with the most toys wins, then can I have some toy boys please?

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