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Marina
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0 posted 2001-09-12 08:58 PM

Not so long ago Timothy McVeigh's death penalty for the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out for what he had done that rocked a nation and in fact the people of the World were shocked as for days on end we prayed, for the best, and that loved ones would be found. For people we had never even met nor had  we so much as passed on the street  Whole families lost in a blink of an eye with their children playing in the sand box and swinging on swings as the parents worked steadily several floors above them.  We watched any and all news footage we could.  But alas, we could not save everyone.  We cried in our hearts, our hearts cried through our eyes. Perhaps, just perhaps, thar some od us cried in our souls too.  Life is a gift...so easily given and taken away.

In light of the last two days events, what are each of you thinking NOW????

1.  I want our death penlity back YESTERDAY!!!!!

2.  All I can think of is the innocent.  Those used on the planes as human bombs.

3.  And once again the children who never stand a chance.
I have more but I will come back later when I can emotionally deal with this.

Thankk you for you support. I can't wait to hear you replies.

Marina

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Poet deVine

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1 posted 2001-09-12 11:23 PM

I am still against the death penalty.

And I cry for the loss of the innocents and our innocence...vengence is NOT mine....

Masked Intruder

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2 posted 2001-09-12 11:28 PM

If the people want the death penalty, I don't know that the government can provide in this case. We are talking single case-scenarios aren't we? In this case, war does not count as capital punishment as far as I'm concerned. If they want to charge bin Laden with the crime, they first must extract him. But since we already declared war on the persons or entities responsible for this act, I believe that much more is at stake than the life of one millionaire Saudi. If the government wants him, we'll have to risk the lives of OUR soldiers and OUR brothers and sisters to remove him from a country that refuses to let him go. I say screw that, just find out where he's at and land a plane on his butt. I really want to use some stronger words to more 'eloquently' express my feelings.

You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. -- Navajo Proverb

serenity blaze
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3 posted 2001-09-12 11:51 PM

I too, will be back later...the devastation has had it's intended affect...I'm devastaded.

Poet Unknown
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since 2001-08-14

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4 posted 2001-09-13 12:23 PM

How do you write rage? What do I think? I am a firm believer in the death penalty...and even if this is war...people CAN be punished for war crimes...somewhere today I read...its un Islamic to kill inoccents...so they cant claim religious beliefs in this...it was an act of hatred and nothing more...hatred for the way of life we and our ancestors have fought and bled for...no one asks them to come here yet our doors are always open and we, as a people, are always willing to help...well I say NO MORE!!!! No not a return to isolationism...but hey...this is OUR country...ours, made by the blood and sweat and tears of people like you and me...people who can walk where they want...worship how they choose...SAY what they want...like about the death penalty...enough...enough...

anonymousfemale
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5 posted 2001-09-13 03:45 AM

Even though taking another life because one was taken first isn't right, the death pentality is needed here. Americans were lost but so were Australians and Englishmen and other nationalities. I want revenge for the people that died, Australian or not. This man needs to be captured, he needs to have the living daylights beaten out of him and he needs to have an eternal sleep. Grrr...I'm furious that this even happened in the first place yet you can't turn back the clock. All you can do is hope that they find more survivors.
Normally I don't have a problem with violence and I don't show large amounts of emotion when people die but this time is definitely an exception. I cried for the safety of my friends and when I found out they were alright, I cried more. It's amazing that you don't know how a situation will affect you until it does. Who would have thought that I, a heartless person, would be rocked by this to such a degree.
I want blood for this.

One thing that is deeply upsetting me the most about this situation is how everyone is making the entire muslim communities targets to display their anger upon. This is NOT what should be done! Yes, an arab did it but little children trying to get to school did not. Mothers that sat at home and can say that they are American/Australia/whatever did not commit this crime. So why are stupid people throwing rocks at school buses and pouring blood on Islamic communities front doors? In Melbourne yesterday some Arabs were cheering at these bombings. Yes, everyone there was going to kill them but lucky for them the police were there. People like THAT should be dealt with. Not innoncent civillians that call America home. Ugh....I'm just so angry! So my thoughts today are just ones of hopelessness. It makes you ask yourself why would you want to continue living in a world that offers you this? Why continue to live on in fear that a war will break out? It's sickening and quite depressing...

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Sven

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6 posted 2001-09-13 08:39 AM

I too am still against the death penalty. . .

You cannot balance a death with more death. . . all death brings is sadness. . . we've had enough death. . . let's have no more. . . let us have justice, yes. . . but no more death. . .

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Local Rebel
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7 posted 2001-09-13 10:04 AM

I don't think it's wise to mix two issues like domestic justice (the death penalty) with the problematic disposition of foreign policy in a time of war.

A measured response will have to be taken -- it is inevitable unfortunately. And, we must ensure that we don't act with the same disdain for human life as the butchers that perpetrated this act.

We feel justified in calling for death -- they felt just as justified -- to the point of sacrificing their own lives -- we have to make sure we don't reduce ourselves to their level....

But I understand the feelings of rage here.

[This message has been edited by Local Rebel (edited 09-13-2001).]

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