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citizenx
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0 posted 2001-09-01 06:45 AM


A genie grants you three wishes, but you can not wish for yourself or for your own personal gain.
What are your wishes?


I have a feeling that the most popular is going to be world peace, but I wonder how would it affect societies and nations. As humans we need conflict, though not war and the murder of millions of innocent people. Why are there wars? Mainly for ecomnic gain or as a struggle for power. SO that is why I would not vote for world peace.
1.  Abolition of third world debt and exploitation, and equal wealth equality through the world.  

2. For society to be more structured to promote the pursuit of knowledge, learning and self improvement.

3. a sense of solace and comfort for people who are at their darkest hour.

I know I am being kind of logical with my choices, but the idea of making wishes that changes things drastically seems kind of dangerous. There is a reason why we can't play GOd, even though we have tried. MY wishes would be attempt to correct some fatal mistakes man kind has made.

"the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned
the order of the soul" leonard cohen

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1 posted 2001-09-01 05:19 PM


My three go to my little girls, one for each..may they find love and happiness and a minimum of pain as they grow.
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2 posted 2001-09-01 07:30 PM


1. For my x-girlfriend to live a long and happy life with no excessive hardships.

2. For my nephew to grow up a good kid and live a healthy life with a strong mind.

3. For the world to understand that hatred due to race and color is idiodic.

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3 posted 2001-09-01 09:10 PM


This one almost belongs in philosophy...

A question as I ponder -- how can anyone wish anything that would not personally benefit them?

Wish anything of benefit for the 'world' you also are included...

But here goes:

I wish Toerag would leave all the women alone (did you see how that benefited me?  and LongJohn?  and Deer? but mostly the women?   )


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4 posted 2001-09-02 01:54 AM


So I gotta be un-selfish? Fine...

Umm..
1.) I wish for only the best of life to cross my mothers path. She deserves it.
2.)  I'll steal Javi's wish and make it my own...Stop the racism..Geesh. It's just ignorance at it's finest!
and 3.)  I wish for all the incredibly skinny, gorgeous women of the world to become horrifyingly ugly and enormous.  

You wouldn't worry about what people thought about you if you knew how seldom they did.

citizenx
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5 posted 2001-09-02 05:24 AM


SPice, all beautiful women..noo ok the really thin ones and the cast of Bevelery hills 90210 except the one Tiffany amber whatever her name is.

"the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned
the order of the soul" leonard cohen

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6 posted 2001-09-02 09:59 AM


Hey! There is nothing wrong with being really thin!  

1. For my family and a few friends to have happy lives in whatever they choose to do.

2. For Gucci and Versace to have a 90% of everything sale for everyone.  

3. For people with racial blindess to open their minds a little more.

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7 posted 2001-09-02 10:50 AM


"As humans we need conflict"?
Really?
What makes you think so?
How is satisfying that need a benefit to humanity?
    

"As soon as the generals and the politicos can predict the motions of your mind, lose it."     Wendell Berry


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8 posted 2001-09-02 11:54 AM


Sorry Kraw,I agree with citizenx there... I'd go absolutely INSANE if I lived in a world of peace and absolute perfectness. I need conflict to an extent.

You wouldn't worry about what people thought about you if you knew how seldom they did.

citizenx
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9 posted 2001-09-02 03:30 PM


Krawdad, what I meant was that we need conflicts to challenge us and help us learn more about ourselves. I don't wars, just normal every day disagreements. Think of what it would be like in a world without these conflicts if everyone either agreed or refused to argue things out. Also nature has shaped us to behave in a hierachy fashion which in itself is bound to cause friction. That last comment might contradict my wishes, but I think the inequality and division of power we have in our society now is completely unfair and insane.

"the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned
the order of the soul" leonard cohen

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10 posted 2001-09-02 09:28 PM


Ok you - sorry but economic equality would never work...

unless we ushered in an entirely new economic system that didn't rely on capitalist foundations..

the erasion of third world debt would be nice - until they accumulated more that is...as they would..

this is awful - I have lost my ability to imagine...do you know whenever I imagine anything anymore I logic it out? It's just horrendous...lol

K

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11 posted 2001-09-02 10:06 PM


Agreed that there is a need for some conflict in life. Here's my 3

1-for everyone to respect the views of others

2-to eliminate racism

3-that all could have what they need in life (food, shelter etc)

I think those would make for a happier world. I thought of wishing that everyone could have someone to truly love, but there again, some dissapointments make for a wiser/stronger person. (not to mention giving material for great poetry  

Tracey

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12 posted 2001-09-03 01:08 AM


Three wishes that dont in any way benefit me? Is that at all possible?
Ok here goes...

I'd wish that every person could have what they need...NOT what they want but what they need...

I'd wish for a world where what you looked like held no bearing on how people see you.

And I'd wish for a simplier time...sure we benefit a lot from modern technology...but we also have lost so much of ourselves...cell phones, computers, television...I just think we have lost some of what makes us human...we are social creatures and all these things have replaced face to face interaction...dont get me wrong...I love the world my computer has opened up for me...but I also love sitting at the river throwing rocks and talking to someone I care about...walking down the street in my town and waving hello to the people driving by and hearing my name called...ok so Im old fashioned LOL...

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13 posted 2001-09-03 12:10 PM


severn

no point in being pessimistic -- it wouldn't work anyway..  

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14 posted 2001-09-04 02:21 AM


three wishes easy:

1. i wish my mother would see what an arsehole my dad is and let go
2. i wish my mother could see that she is a wonderful wonderful wonderful person who doesnt need to take the blame for everone elses actions
3. i wish i could wipe all the hurt and anguish my mother has been through and replace it with happiness and sunshine till kingdom come.

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15 posted 2001-09-04 09:00 AM


This one's easy!!
I wish:
1) All children lived in a home with loving parents, free from hurt, pain and sickness.
2) All elderly people lived their "golden years" free from hurt, pain and sickness.
3) Everyone everywhere in the world had healthcare, jobs, and got paid beyond minimum wage.  

I'm not wishing for world peace.  Just wishing for peace within our families.  

Live today as if it's your last.  Love today as if it's your first.   Lisa

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16 posted 2001-09-04 11:14 AM


Medical Cures for Aids, Cancer, Diabeties, etc.........

That no child goes to bed abused, neglected, or hungry .........

3 more wishes, cause there is way too much left undone,
much more to wish for ........  

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A woman who lies for a man, is a woman who lies to herself.
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17 posted 2001-09-04 11:56 AM


Here are my three!

1. That my friend Christine's life would be problem free for a change ( and her ex jerk husband would leave her alone).  if anyone deserves it it's her.

2. That my daughters will grow up to be good people and find happiness.

3. That a certain Passions friend of mine would finally find love and happiness.

Those are my wishes.  I'm keeping it simple!

Kris

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18 posted 2001-09-04 09:53 PM


Hmmm...
My very first wish would be for Severn to find her immagination she claims she lost.    

My second wish would be for a very close friend (they know who they are) to finally have that one special thing or person he has been aching after for so long now.  

My third wish would be a renewed and wonderful health condition for another awesome friend of mine.

I am many.

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19 posted 2001-09-04 10:10 PM


1. A public school system that encouraged diversity without defined cliques- a system that thrived on differences rather than suffering from that. In fact- throw out the word system, just call it 'schools'.

2. For people to become more concerned with making their community a better place to live instead of just complaining about it.

3. The dissapearance of bubblegum pop from the music scene- permanently.

--

A few comments on other wishes:

'Abolition of third world debt and exploitation, and equal wealth equality through the world. '

-World wide communism?

'for everyone to respect the views of others'

-I find this impossible. For example, I don't respect the views of people who lash out against beliefs and ideas they aren't even educated about. Maybe respecting all people is a more reasonable goal, but I still think it's pretty unnatainable.

'I'd wish for a world where what you looked like held no bearing on how people see you.'

Imagine I go in for a job interview with a fancy restaurant. I'm applying to be an opening manager. I stroll in wearing dirty sweatpants, a frayed T-shirt, uncombed hair, unwashed face- you get the picture. Does the employer get the impression that I really care about the position, and moreover, should he/she? The way we present ourselves physically does, in some aspect, reflect how we feel about where we are, both in life and at that particular time (I would lounge around home looking like that, but certainly not go for a job interview.)

'All children lived in a home with loving parents, free from hurt, pain and sickness.'

Does it have to be plural? I was better off as a kid with my dad not around- or what if it's grandparents, aunt, uncle, etc. This wish seemed too 1950's white picket fence to me...

I hope nobody takes those comments too seriously...I'm not trying to bash the wishes or anything- I'm just looking for interesting conversation...  

I eat only sleep and air -Nicole Blackman

[This message has been edited by hush (edited 09-04-2001).]

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20 posted 2001-09-04 10:26 PM


My first wish would be that all children are fed, loved and appreciated, as children ought to be.

My second wish is that everyone could look under the skin and realize we're all the same, that color, weight, young, old, fat, thin has no relevance.  We're just people.  We don't choose the bodies we're poured into.  Get over it and GET a clue!!!

My third wish is for a sweet and dear friend of mine.  I want her to come out of the darkness where she's spent far too much time and touch the light.  Touch it and stay there.  If she reads this, then she'll know that I am speaking of her.  Sweetie, take my hand and come into the peace that you seek and deserve.

Michael

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There is more depth to the heart than the mind can comprehend and it only has boundaries when we choose to fence it in.  

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21 posted 2001-09-05 07:29 AM


Michael my old friend...we're NOT all the same. Ack. Anthropology has changed me and my views. Calling all people the same is really quite an horrific insult you know...hugs...

Siofra - how sweet of you   I still have it somewhere...

Hush - you know how to stir up controversy yes? Me like...lollol...I agree on the 1950's. If my Dad had never been around - life would've been better honestly..and my Mum had plenty of love to give - with or without a male father figure around to provide the 'balance'

LR - heh...

K

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22 posted 2001-09-05 11:11 AM


I guess my wish is white-picket-fenced. And yes I meant it as plural.  Not that I find anything wrong with single parent families.  My parents divorced when I was a child.  I was brought up in a loving home.  Parents together/parents divorced, it was still a loving home.  My wish is to NOT have single parent homes.  If I wished for a child to have a loving, free from hurt and pain life - that would also be my idea of a pain free life - life without divorce.  It takes two to create a child.  Hopefully out of love, love for the child and love for each other.  I'm not against single-parent homes, at all.  Just my "dream wish".  For everyone to have a life full of love, with the "white picket fence" mother and father.  

Live today as if it's your last.  Love today as if it's your first.   Lisa

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23 posted 2001-09-05 11:14 AM


And that does include "Loving" grandparents, aunts, uncles,..... you name it!!! As long as they're family.  

Live today as if it's your last.  Love today as if it's your first.   Lisa

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24 posted 2001-09-05 01:40 PM


Well if it's interesting conversation -- look at the responses to this thread -- I doubt that there would be too many different responses no matter where this was posted -- the majority of people just want to 'get along' -- live and let live -- have the 'good' life -- what prevents us from accomplishing that?  If human goals are tacitly similar -- why should it take a genie to blink it into existence?

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25 posted 2001-09-05 06:04 PM


Hush, communism and socialism did not work in the first place due to greed. I still find Lenin's quote very inspiring "when we are victorious on a world scale I think we will tile public lavatories with gold."

Local Rebel, I believe the reason that we don't have peace or anything that anyone here has wished for is because such wishes do not suit people in power.

"the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned
the order of the soul" leonard cohen

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26 posted 2001-09-05 10:57 PM


Carolina- if you're not against single-parent families, why are you wishing them out of existence? Just because your ideal family includes two parents doesn't mean mine does. If your wish came true, children (and mothers/fathers) who are perfectly happy the way they are would have their lives disrupted and be thrust into a situation they do not want to be in. But you want happiness... so are you wishing that we would all want a white-picket fence household with two parents? (or two grandparents? Aunts? what if there were two lesbian aunts- is that better or worse than single-parent families? I better stop now- this could be its own thread.) I think a world full of happy little nuclear familes would be really boring- in fact, I'm sure if I had grown up in the fifties I would have been a Kerouac touting beatnik, rebelling against the suburbian ways. Are you sugesting that rebellion is a bad thing? Or that rebellion would not be formed in two-parent households because everyone would be happy that way? That seems like a very one-sided approach to life... to me, anyway.

LR- great point! I personally get kind of irritated at syrupy expressions of love towards complete strangers. I, honestly, am sorry that not everyone has a great life, and that those people may not be able to afford computers to come here and say their peace. But I only have so much sincere love to give out, and it's reserved for those closest to me- I think it's easy to say you wish for people to be healthy and happy, but how many of us are actually out there in the communities helping? Look at it this way- I can adopt one, maybe two dogs from the pound. I'd love to take them all- but my resources (emotional and physical) are limited. Unfortunately, it's the same with people. There's not enough love to support the whole world.

cit x- If the people of the world really wanted peace so badly, and it was really the governements or "people in power" (which people did you mean, BTW?) that were preventing us from peace, we could overthrow them. But... if they have the human resources (armies, etc.) to hold back our peaceful cause, there must also be a significant amount of people who believe in the non-peaceful cause.

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27 posted 2001-09-06 12:30 PM


I can't help it - I'm getting frustrated hahaha...

Sigh.

I'm annoyed by the presumption of 'one parent families' vs 'a world' full of nuclear families.

This is so exclusive!  What about extended kinship networks?? The 'ideal' nuclear family is relatively confined to Western society...which is a society that adheres to a notion of individualism..

A couple of examples:

In the foothills of rural China: The bride travels to the groom's childhood home (often in another village), where her children are raised, and traditionally any son, like his father, will never leave. This is why sons are so desired under the birth policy programme - because sons and their brides stay home to take of parents in their old age. Hence, for a child to grow up without grandparents in this society might be just as 'traumatic' for them as growing up without two parents might be for 'us.'

Another example - for several tribes in Papua New Guinea it is not uncommon for a woman to regard her sister's children as her own. There is no separation between matrilineal cousins. In effect - children have four parents - tied through blood and hearth. Imagine how children of an only child (a rarity but possible), or a woman with no sisters or surviving sisters might feel? Could not their kinship network feel weak and inadequate without the home of an aunt to access as readily as their own mother's home?

Simply - the so-called universal notion of 'two parents' does not apply. Indeed, for children of the West, then the absence of one parent might have a negative effect - just like the presence of two might have an equally negative effect. I agree with Hush's point - what if the two parent family included a lesbian mother and her partner? (As is becoming more and more common). One grandparent and one father? Does this automatically exclude a balanced life for a child? I don't think so.

Biologically, it may take a woman and a man to create a child but the important fact is that what we perceive as 'natural' nurturing roles in parenting are in fact cultural and social constructions.

Rant finished...(for now heh).

K

P.S: Hush - I heard somewhere that a human is emotionally and psychologically capable of maintaining approximately twelve deeply intimate relationships at a time - including friends, family, lovers - not sure if it includes pets or not...


[This message has been edited by Severn (edited 09-06-2001).]

Brad
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28 posted 2001-09-06 06:38 AM


This is a great thread.

Mine would be:

1. That everybody could see through the eyes of another.

2. That everybody would learn a second language.

3. That what people say and what people do get a little closer in line with each other.

Brad

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29 posted 2001-09-06 09:22 AM


*sigh*  Guess my wish will never be granted.  But thanx for letting me give it anyway.  I disagree with alot, BUT, I am old-fashioned, from the south, and I don't believe in alot of what is going on in families today, and what is viewed as a "family".   But, this is just my view.  

Live today as if it's your last.  Love today as if it's your first.   Lisa

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30 posted 2001-09-06 09:29 AM


At least let me keep my wish for children to be free from pain and hurt, and in a HOUSEHOLD full of love.

Live today as if it's your last.  Love today as if it's your first.   Lisa

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31 posted 2001-09-06 02:29 PM


Carolina, your wishes are just fine

I wish that

1.  My eldest son never sees combat,
2.  I become a better person every day, and
3.  I walk my talk.

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32 posted 2001-09-06 06:14 PM


oops.. I did it again...

scuze me

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33 posted 2001-09-06 06:15 PM


ok now I know my three wishes...

1. I wish that people could come to an understanding of relativity

2. people could come to an understanding

and... you have to extapolate number three..



ok..I'm bad... just delete me Ali -- you've done it before   j/k

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34 posted 2001-09-06 06:53 PM


LOL...LR, that lil comment just cracked me up something fierce.  

Ok...three wishes, eh? And not for me?

1) That everyone who desire work can find it.

2) Bigotry based on any and all criteria would cease immediately.

3) That everyone would respect their respective laws of the land and abide by them.

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35 posted 2001-09-10 01:37 PM


1.  I wish Mother Theresa were alive still, so she can help more people.

2.  I wish Pope John Paul II would live longer and become stronger, so he can continue being the great pope that he is.

3.  I wish my grandma would have more fruitfull years in her life.

hi Sweets, Lizzy, Kris, Ina, Allysa, Erica, Minna, Kit, Kamie, Javi, Jenn, Sharon, Nan, Cawlee, Cherish, Ashley, Sara, Justine, Leah, Jess, Kimmie, Ma

Carolina
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36 posted 2001-09-17 03:03 PM


OK!!!!!! I've changed my mind!!! My 3 wishes are:
1) PEACE
2) PEACE
3) PEACE

Live today as if it's your last.  Love today as if it's your first.   Lisa

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