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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Following Sven's question: In high school, a teacher once told me three dates that I should always remember -- they were the key points in Western history (and following that, world history). What do you think they are? This isn't a test, you should never be tested on something that you haven't been taught but I wonder if anybody'll take a guess. Two hints: --the birth of Jesus Christ is not one of them. --We are discussing European history only. Of course, if you just want to give what you think the three most important dates are, that's fine with me. Brad [This message has been edited by Brad (edited 07-03-2001).] |
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Poet deVine
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since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
1215 - Signing of Magna Carta 1588 - The Spanish Armada is defeated by the English fleet 1776 Signing of the Declaration of Independence |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
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Is the declaration of independence a significant part of 'European' history though? Other than signifying the split between England and America... Sorry just wondering...  KI am a refugee of logic...insisting |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
The signing of the Declaration of Independence, to my mind, would count, but that wasn't one of the dates my teacher said. Sharon, I think all of those should count but none of them are in my teacher's top three. Notice how I said they aren't in my top three. Yes, I'm stepping around the question.  Brad |
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Elizabeth
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Posts 6871Minnesota |
The French Revolution? The start of World War I? I can't think of another one, and I'm pretty sure these aren't any of them.....but I guessed anyway!  |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Elizabeth, One right. But just to be nitpicky, I want the date. Brad |
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Ryan Member
since 1999-06-10
Posts 297Kansas |
Well, of Elizabeth's two, I would say the French Revolution. I think that was 1789. And what about William the Conquerer's invasion of England in 1066? My final guess will go to Marin Luther nailing his 95 Theses at the Castle of Wittenburg in 1517 (I'll admit I had to look up that date). Ryan "I've got this night to unglue" -- John Frusciante |
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Poet deVine
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Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
What about the invention of the printing press???? |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
two down, one more to go 1. 1789 2. 1066 3. ? |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
I see a trend here......let's throw in the Battle of Waterloo for the last one (on second thought, that one probably isn't it....as I recall, the French, under Napoleon, got thoroughly trounced). It seems to me that the 3 most important dates in European history, according to your teacher, are not European, but French. William the Conquerer (aka William the [male B-word]) was from Normandy. French Revolution..that one's pretty easy to figure. Hmm....how about May 8, 1945. V-E Day. [This message has been edited by Alicat (edited 07-04-2001).] |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Hmmmmm, France? Hadn't considered that -- I suppose in a way you could argue that all three days have 'something' to do with France but not VE day. Hint: the last date happened before 1066. Thanks, Brad |
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Elizabeth
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The fall of Rome? |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
Elizabeth, that would be around 476 AD, the collapse of the political Western Roman Empire. Other dates could be 1054 AD, the Great Schism between Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox. Another important date to European history could be Constantine the Great's recognition of the Catholic church in 313 AD. If these ain't it, how about a hint: Political, Religious, Scientific, Militarily, or Geographic/Geologic. |
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LoveBug
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Hmmm... NO CLUE  "Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel."-Machiavelli [This message has been edited by LoveBug (edited 07-04-2001).] |
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Poet deVine
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700 A.D., the invention of gunpowder? |
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Acies
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Isn't that from the Chinese Sharon? 334-323 B.C. -- Alexander the Great expands Greek influence hi Sweets, Lizzy, Kris, Ina, Erin, Erica, Minna, Kit, Kamie, Javi, Jenn, Sharon, Nan, Cawlee, Cherish, Ashley, Sara, Justine, Leah, Jess, Kimmie, Mare [This message has been edited by acire (edited 07-04-2001).] |
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Dusk Treader
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since 1999-06-18
Posts 1187St. Paul, MN |
Now according to my school, the Greeks and Romans fall under the category of the ancient world, correct Brad? Something related to Western history would be after that.. But then again, what does my school know, LOL My guess would be something to do with Charlemagne.. His coronation in 800, or begining of his military campaign in 772. My only ideas at the moment. "They that start by burning books will end by burning men." -- Heinrich Heine |
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Joricho Member
since 2001-05-06
Posts 56Australia |
What about the "conversion" of Constantine? Not sure about the date! Or the fall of Rome? |
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Poet deVine
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When was this class Brad? 1100? Why should the three most important events have happened before 1066? Did nothing happen after that of any significance? What about the invention of electricity? What about the European Industrial Revolution in the Mid 1800's? |
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Fading Away
since 2001-03-14
Posts 3131Lynchburg, Virginia |
Well, that's easy. The day I was born, the day I was born... oh, and the day I was born.  You can’t expect the roses to grow without the weeds. |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
In a way, you've helped me figure out why she chose those three dates -- I never really thought about it until everybody started throwing these different patterns in my face. Sharon, Only the final date is pre-1066. Dawn Treader, Don't confuse or let your school confuse geographical periodizations with temporal ones. Both are vague and useless when any detail comes into play, but Sven may have a point on the poor quality of our current education system if they teach the Western World follows the Ancient World. Everybody, well almost everybody, has given important dates and they all deserve to be counted but I now believe the reasoning is far more subtle. "Men make their own history but they do not make it exactly as they choose." --Karl Marx 1. 1789 -- The French Revolution led directly to the Reign of Terror and the rise of Napoleon. 2. 1066 -- William the Conqueror conquered England but thereby created the material and nationalistic conditions to fend off further invasions. It wasn't just the last invasion, it was the invasion that stopped the others. 3. The third? Et tu? Brad [This message has been edited by Brad (edited 07-05-2001).] |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
Oh goodness....March 15, 44 BC? One of the most important dates in European history? Ok, I might be able to see that, other than the literary reference forever imbued in our minds by Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar". |
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Titia Geertman Member Ascendant
since 2001-05-07
Posts 5182Netherlands |
I'm from Europe, but history wasn't my best and remembering dates? Noooooooooway! 1600 battle of Nieuwpoort, Napoleon defeated? 1940 beginning World War II? 1945 end of World War II? Oh dear what events did we have more... missed a few you know. Ending of 80-year War? don't know the date, way back though King William I shot? No no that's Dutch history Separation of Belgium and Holland? some 150 years ago I think Well I'm pooped, can't think of anything else Titia A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess... |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
The three most important dates are: 1. 1789 2. 1066 3. 44 BC |
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Poet deVine
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Pshaw! |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
Well, I know that you're not going to be surprised that I don't agree with you. . . but, I'll have to think about what these dates should be. . . Some of the people who have responded to this thread bring up some good dates. . . care to tell us why these three dates??? ---------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
I already did -- just go back a few comments. Brad |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
a rather subjective excercise brad... ha ha |
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Titia Geertman Member Ascendant
since 2001-05-07
Posts 5182Netherlands |
What on earth happened on 44 BC?Titia (curious as hell I am) Oh just read a few replies back, has to do with Ceasar et tu Brutus and Judas and so on hasn't it. A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess... Feel free to use the pictures on my website. http://communities.msn.com/Titiasplace&naventryid=100 [This message has been edited by Titia Geertman (edited 07-06-2001).] |
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