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Sven
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0 posted 05-29-2001 07:26 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

I'll start a good discussion. . .  

Ok. . .

here it is:

Emotions, intellect, or both?

And, if both, which one first?

In other words. . . which would you rather have?  And, if you choose both, which one comes first?  Is it Emotional Intellectualism, or Intellectual Emotion??

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To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world.

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1 posted 05-29-2001 07:32 PM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

GREAT questiong, Sven.  


There are some who would say that intellect and emotion don't really belong together at all, yanno.  

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2 posted 05-29-2001 07:48 PM       View Profile for inot2B   Email inot2B   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for inot2B

I'll pick emotion. I go by my emotions to take care of my intellect. I'm afraid if it was switched that my intellect would tell me to ignore anything that was brought on by emotion.
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3 posted 05-29-2001 07:48 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

I think this belongs in the Lounge..this is for complaining only Sven!!  
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4 posted 05-29-2001 08:25 PM       View Profile for Lone Wolf   Email Lone Wolf   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Lone Wolf

That is easy . . . intellect because emotions just complicate things.  Being smart usually doesn't!!  

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5 posted 05-29-2001 09:53 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Regardless of emotion complicated things, it's great when you feel something wonderful.
So I pick emotion over intellect.
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6 posted 05-29-2001 10:19 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Hmm...that is a hard one. I'm one of them rare guys that uses both sides of the brain about equally...like 49/51. I guess I go more for Emotional Intellect, and Lord knows, that's gotten me in more trouble that I care to divulge.  

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7 posted 05-30-2001 04:22 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Hmmmmmm...

I used to go solely by emotion...now I still do many things based on my emotions, however, I'm discerning enough USUALLY to know when I'm being an idiot or not...(yes I did say usually so no heckling here)...

Also...I no longer trust my emotions enough to just leap right in there anymore...I have to plan things, and think things through BUT BUT BUT - if the emotion is strong enough I will find a way.

HAS that made any sense at all???

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8 posted 05-30-2001 04:25 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

~a few minutes later~

OK OK OK...

who on earth am I trying to fool here?

I came to the states after ONE WEEK's thought...ONE WEEK. By myself...not knowing anyone (in the flesh that is)...it wasn't that well thought out...

and gee..considering what I'm planning to do next? Emotions come up first...mind you..I'm only planning this next thing because I HAVE to - if I could do it now I would.

Emotions - hands down heh.

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9 posted 05-30-2001 02:20 PM       View Profile for bslicker   Email bslicker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for bslicker

hands down for me emotions...  
of course you already know that

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ok here is the part where i get labelled a trekky nerd... I am not by the way. I only ever watched next gen.
but Sven your question reminds me of the character Data and his pursuit for eomtions.... It is after all what makes us what we are, besides knowledge can be aquired where as emotions develop. They are with us from the beginning. Besides what is the point is knowing everything being the wisest person in the world when you can't enjoy the wisdom.

emotions win hangs down.

  

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11 posted 05-30-2001 07:06 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

quote:
Besides what is the point is knowing everything being the wisest person in the world when you can't enjoy the wisdom.


Brian, I love that. . . that's perfect. . . it sums it up nicely. . . thanks!!!  

For myself, I would have to say that it's got to be Emotional Intellectualism. . . now, don't tell me that you can't have that because emotions and intellect aren't the same thing. . . I know that. . . but, what I'm trying to say is that I try to always have my intellect tempered by my emotions. . . you can't have one without the other. . .

Cold intellect doesn't answer all of life's problems. . . but then again, you can't walk around being totally emotional either. . . you'd be a wreck!!

There are people who try to be one or the other. . . and it shows. . . people who are totally intellectual miss out on the great joys of life. . . a smile, a tear, the sight of a beautiful sunrise. . . people that are totally emotional miss out on the writings of the great philosophers, the insight of debate, the knowledge that helps them grow. . .

So, for me, it's got to be both. . . and, to use Trekkie symbolism here, it's kind of like being Spock. . . with a Vulcan Father(intellectual) and an Earth mother (emotional). . . but, learning to balance the two, not to deny one or the other. . .

Great answers everyone!!!  

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I don't understand the question. Emotion and intellect are abstract concepts that can't be separated from each other. Data and Spock for that matter are examples of the impossibility of having one or the other. I have never met or heard of an intellectual that wasn't passionate -- think William Buckley threatening to punch Gore Vidal in the nose or Witgenstein threatening Karl Popper with a poker.

To me, it's like asking which is more important, the form or the content in poetry. You can't have content without form and form without content is impossible -- a geometric design, for example, still has the meaning of a geometric design.

In other words, it's kind of like saying which side of a coin is more important: the head side or the tail side.

Brad
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13 posted 05-30-2001 07:49 PM       View Profile for inot2B   Email inot2B   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for inot2B

Sven you ask which we would rather have. Sure we all have both just some of us use one more than the other.
But when I read the part about Spock I knew that you were not writing from intellect. Spock always ended up talking from emotion.
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14 posted 05-30-2001 10:08 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Sven, sorry, we must have been posting at the same time.

I think we agree. I wouldn't put it that way and I wouldn't use those examples (they  exemplify the separateness of the two and think we should concentrate on the idea of the whole) but it does seem we're saying the same thing.

I hate agreeing with people.  

Brad
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15 posted 05-30-2001 10:19 PM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here ...

Um, what about "Looks?"

Call me shallow, call me cruel ... but even the most intelligent, sensitive, "emotional" man in the world is not going to capture my attention if he looks like a mutant toad who just crawled out of a radioactive trash heap.  It is proven fact that animal magnetism (which, I might mention, has NOTHING to do with emotion OR intellect) is the first and most powerful draw in initializing human attraction.  While some might argue themselves blue in the face saying that such things don't matter over time, how does "in the long run" factor into the equation when you never had a chance in the first place?

When the initial flames die to a comfortable glow, however ...

Intelligence or emotion?  I think any person who accepts only one would be cheating themselves .... shrug.


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16 posted 05-30-2001 10:22 PM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

OK, so it looks like I took a different vein than everyone else ... I guess that's because I have equal measures of BOTH intellect and emotion and use each in moderation, choosing the one best suited to the situation ... doesn't everyone...?  
 
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