Somewhere in the vast wastelan
As to your first statement Severn, after the one stating you are going to argue the point, yes he will be.
"How do you figure that?
Which entity informed you of its truth?
Is there any epistemological reasoning behind that statement?"
-First off I was raised in a christian church but my belief system is a bit different but based on the same principles. The bible does state that after death our spirit or soul goes to a place to be judged and we are rewarded and punished accordingly. If you would like I can provide verses to support the issue. As to which entity, are you implying that there might be more than one, well I wold say the bible or the word of God is suffecient enough. As to the last question I do not understand that large word and have no idea as to what it means but I suspect that I have already answered it.
"How do you KNOW that, because I note you don't say 'I THINK this will happen' - you state it as quite factual..and this fact lends itself to the idea that you'd like to watch the life sucked out of a human because it's a 'sacred' process."
-Question. Will anyone who believes something say that they think they know it? If they do then they have cast the shadow that they are not entirely sure about it and so they are not certain in their belief. How can anyone truely believe in something they doubt? And yes, death is a sacred process and should be observed or respected properly, not that I expect anyone to do it just because I believe it.
"I find your reasoning a little flawed. Simply because it invokes issues of morality here. And the implication that there is one law of morality for all. Which somehow you have absolute proof of. Which I don't think you do - because you are not dead yet and haven't experienced it."
-Well the bible does teach that there is one law of morality for all. Unless I am misreading what you have said. As to actual proof, well that is why it is call a belief, no proof is necessary to believe.
"I don't think you can be speaking from a Christian perspective, because one of the main tenets there is grace - and people go to 'hell' because they choose not to love God. (I know - I used to attend church.)"
-Now I could make many comments on this alone. I have stated before about where I derived my beliefs from and I am unsure as to which church you went to but I think you have oversimplified the requirements to go to "hell" or "heaven" for that matter. People go to "hell" because they has "sinned" and the only way to be "saved" from it or to go to "heaven" is to accept God's gift of his Son taking our "sins", He did this through grace, thus making us "clean again". At least that is what my old church taught.
"God doesn't send people to hell at all actually - we choose to go ourselves, and we certainly don't go there because of bad deeds. Which can seem like an injustice when we think of the suffering some people cause - but there it is. Good works are meaningless when deciding your place of residence in the afterlife in Christian philosophy."
-No He doesn't but we are all condemned there from the day we are born. Our choice is to be "saved" or not to be "saved". Too true about good works earning yourself a spot in "heaven" but the bible does say that you will be rewarded or punished for every deed, whether it be goo or bad. Again these are the things my old church taught.
Well there you have it. If you need verses, just let me know I will get them for you. I was kind of hoping this wouldn't turn into a religous debate but this is kind of refreshing. Thank you, Severn, and to all of you for tolerating this debate or discussion.
The White Wolf
If life is just a game, when does it end cause I want to get to what is real.