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25 posted 09-03-2000 11:56 AM       View Profile for Jeffrey Carter   Email Jeffrey Carter   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jeffrey Carter

Well now, the way I see it is if a man has to put the seat down when he is done then the woman should put the seat up when she is done. I mean fair is fair right
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26 posted 09-03-2000 01:25 PM       View Profile for Paula Finn   Email Paula Finn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Paula Finn

Living in a household comprised entirely of teenage boys, not to mention four big dogs, this is a given....the seat will be up and EVERYTHING will be wet anyway. Its a losing battle on my part...but my vote is cast for DOWN
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27 posted 09-03-2000 02:17 PM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

OK, women have the babies, so men can put the seat down.

The queen has spoken.  

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -Oscar Wilde
"The robbed that smiles steals something from the thief" -Shakespea
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28 posted 09-03-2000 02:52 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Okay, I think that I have to say something about this!!  LOL

In our modern age of technology, there are men who have taken this age old problem head on!!  (lol)  And who, after many, many years of design and testing, and re-testing. . .  sleepless nights and wet bottoms. . . not to mention splinters (don't ask!) have come up with the one thing that might end this kind of an argument for years (possibly centuries!!) to come. . .

A toliet seat (and a lid!) that AUTOMATICALLY goes down if it's not manually put down after a few minutes. . .

Here it is!!!  
http://r1.us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://yahoo.catalogcity.com/index.cfm/rmivars%3ftarget=_top?main=catalog&pcd=465498


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29 posted 09-03-2000 03:41 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

DOWN! DOWN! DOWN!

Had to laugh at Serenity's reasoning, and LoveBug's as well! Good thinkking, you two!  

Elizabeth
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30 posted 09-03-2000 07:41 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

But Sven you haven't voted or even hinted what way you are inclined... up or down - what do YOU do>> LOL
Also I'm on the borderlines myself, I live with two males (Hubby and Dylan) and I put the seat down for myself, and they put it up, we all just do what we have to do.
But when visitors are coming, only then do I ask that both seat and lid are down, so everything LOOKS nice.  LOL
Generally speaking the whole subject is bizarre Chris LOL and why should it matter who does what, as long as we all get to go when we need to!!!
Squatting IS a good alternative idea, but then the men would probably say the width of the hole from front to back isn't wide enough or something!!  LOL
Also when a woman gets a wet bum, a towel may not be enough she might want a bath or shower for germs sake???  LOL
Ok well I better "GO" now and I'm gonna LEAVE THE SEAT DOWN TODAY CHRIS  LOL!!!

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31 posted 09-03-2000 09:38 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Ok Isis. . . I would have to say down. . . just from a purely aesthetic viewpoint, if the seat was meant to be up. . . there wouldn't be seats on toilets!! LOL  

And just why are there toilet seats anyway??  Has anyone addressed THAT question??

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32 posted 09-04-2000 01:35 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

This is being regurgitated...er...revived?

K
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33 posted 09-04-2000 01:54 PM       View Profile for Poertree   Email Poertree   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poertree

LK

quote:
We could just go back to squatting over holes in the ground...no worries!


what do you mean ... "go back"? do you live in NZ or not?!  

heh

SP
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34 posted 09-04-2000 06:11 PM       View Profile for Salooma   Email Salooma   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Salooma

LoveBug - LOL Can't agree with that more!  
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35 posted 09-04-2000 07:47 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

The seat is there for sanitary reasons. For instance, how would we like it if we were in the bathroom to brush our teeth or something, and the toothbrush fell into the toilet because it was either left up or the toilet had no seat? Therefore, the seat should be left down!

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36 posted 09-04-2000 10:07 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Well SP...

I do.

I certainly do.

I believe I and my fellow countrymen share a common ancestor, in regards to settlement of my fine land, yes...I do believe we hearken from English lands...

hmmm...

I also believe those who came here were in search of a less squalid existence...with a bit of style.

I also would think much of the traditional English toilet humour was left behind, in pursuit of something more enlightened...

Sadly...I can see you have not yet reached that enlightened point.

My sympathies Sir P.

I offer any help you might need to reach that point...

~K sadly shakes head~

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silky surface of the Severn...
it was a famously difficult
river with fierce tides..."


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37 posted 09-05-2000 05:53 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

Erica - When was the last time you gave birth to a child? Elizabeth? Hmmmm?

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38 posted 09-06-2000 02:27 AM       View Profile for Erin   Email Erin   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Erin

Ok I know that I already have my opinion but how does this sound Christopher: Men can have one bathroon with no toilet seat and women can have a bathroom with a toilet seat. Sounds good to me. But then get this the men cannot I repeat cannot use the women's bathroom at any cause seeing that you are making a big deal out of this. Even if you need it really bad!! Like as if you just ate something that is gonna make you explode (if you know what I mean) you still cant use it. YOu will have to sit on that cold toilet since you think it isnt right to leave the seat down!!It sounds fair to me!!!How does it sound to you??



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39 posted 09-06-2000 08:33 PM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

When will you EVER give birth to a child, Chris?!??!

Never ever ever ever!

So, when should the toilet seat be left up?

Never ever ever ever!!!!  

DUH!

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40 posted 09-07-2000 09:42 AM       View Profile for Poertree   Email Poertree   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poertree

Ancestors of dear lady K,
Were as hasty as she is today,
They left England's fair shore
Thinking they could find more,
Losing culture and sense on the way!
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41 posted 09-07-2000 09:54 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Poor Sir P.

I see you have a misguided sense of what constitutes culture...
are you suggesting the English definition of culture is the only available one?

There is a label for that dear...ethnocentricism...

most frowned upon you know - yes, by the educated who know better...

tchtch...

~K continues to sadly shake her head~

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42 posted 09-07-2000 10:06 AM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Severn, Poertree: Behave.

Poertree, would you care to expound upon the message contained within your limerick to Severn? I realize the limerick style denotes a 'game', but I fail to see the point...or do I see it too clearly? You see, I'm glad my forebears left England behind. After the Clearances, my family had little reason to remain, and little love for the Crown. So, in the 1880's, they left, and settled in America. So, if your purpose was merely jest, it was done in poor taste, or would you rather lump me, along with others, in this limerick's egocentric, ethnocentric worldview?

Alicat, the unamused Persnikitty
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43 posted 09-07-2000 10:46 AM       View Profile for Sudhir Iyer   Email Sudhir Iyer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sudhir Iyer

What is a TOILET?

TRUSTED OFFICER IN LOOSE ENDED THREADS ?

TOURISTS OF INTERNATIONAL LANDS EXIT TIREDLY ??

TREMORS OF INSANITY LEVELS EXTRA TERRESTRIALS ???

..
..

What's the big hassle anyway?  

Why only up or down... This is so restrictive... Think of the numerous angles that one can keep the toilet seat... why is it a seat anyway... or fuzzily little up than down or little down than up... WOW I am perplexed  

A seat with a hollow outlet... how disturbing...   how mind boggling...

Anyway, keep the thoughts churning... maybe finally every one can sit... peacefully in meditation...

ever wonder why people feel to be most peaceful in a toilet... or why many read novels and news papers in their toilets?  

More perplexed than ever...

Chris, why the heck do you start such topics...

why not some thing like when there were no toilet seats, did men and women fight about whether they should be seated or standing... in all probability, they did...

I wonder what the martians think of this? by the way are there toilets UP there in the HEAVEN? and are they up or down ... in relation to us, they are always up, right???


******crash
*****boom
**** my brain lay dead in stilled motion
*** too much processing
**see you
*

My regards,
sudhir
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44 posted 09-07-2000 10:55 AM       View Profile for Poertree   Email Poertree   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poertree

~sigh~

yes Alicat i would care to expound.

on the face of it my limerick is as you suggest outrageous nationalistic, jingoistic maybe even "egocentric and ethnocentric" - so much so in fact that, taken together with the brief earlier exchanges between Kamla and myself, I never dreamed that anyone would take it as anything other than part of a ridiculous bit of repartee between two friends ...

once in a while my tactlessness gets me into trouble, and i should have know better than to post this in a forum where my idiotic inclination to say the opposite of what i mean and find it humourous isn't well known.

as it is my poor attempt at humour directed at Kamla seems to have spilled over and caused you offense - for what it's worth my real views of England and the Crown are that they are both "ok", but emigration isn't something I'd rule out...lol

meanwhile, if you wish to delete the post please do so with my blessing - the rhymes were horribly simplistic anyway  

and btw (even in these awkward circs) it's nice to meet you, and again my apologies

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45 posted 09-07-2000 12:57 PM       View Profile for jbouder   Email jbouder   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for jbouder

Christopher:

Put the stinking seat down, already, will ya?    

Alicat:

Kinda strange seeing an American suggest anybody else could possibly be ethnocentric ... lol.     I can vouch for Philip's character here ... he certainly had no intention of offending anyone.

Philip:

Perhaps a correction is in order ... weren't Lady K's ancestor's criminals?  If that happens to be the case, then is it proper to say that they "left" England's fair shore?           I could be wrong ... I am an American and any history that does not involve America is not so important to me.      *Just kidding, everyone!*

Jim



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46 posted 09-07-2000 07:18 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Sigh...Jim...NO

that's Australia...which was settled first as a convict state - it was in effect a great big prison: without walls...

how convenient - lets get men and women (some poor beggars only stole bread to feed their families) and ship them off overseas so they can cut down all that nasty bush and make homes for the 'respectable' colonists...

New South Wales - (where Maree lives lol) - was the first state there to be settled.

NZ - In the late 1700's the first Europeans who settled here were whalers. Then settling fever hit...no criminals though.  

There you go Jim...a basic study of the colonialisation of Australasia....lol


Ali - HUGS.  

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No worries, Philip. Just hadn't had enough coffee in me at that moment. And Jim? Yeah, I'm an American...right after Texan, right after Scottish!!!  

Alicat the kilted Persnikitty
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48 posted 09-08-2000 01:13 AM       View Profile for Wesley the Blue   Email Wesley the Blue   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wesley the Blue

Ok, for the topic of whether or not the toilet seat should be left up or down, I say majority rule, and in case of no majority, wherever it my lie.  Everyone should have enough sence in their heads to look before they leap.  I live in, or used to live in, a house with three guy's (Father, brother, me) and one girl (mother) and there was a rule for the toilet seat. DOWN!!!!!!!!!! and I didnt like it, why should I have to put the seat down after Im done, I at least have the curtacy to pick it up if it is down before I do my buisness, and I bet you girls would prefer getting a wet behind from falling into the toilet than from us not picking the seat up because WE didnt look beforehand.
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LOL....Oh Chris I gotta thank ya for this one. Has made my morning. I've sat and giggled myself silly. I must respectfully ask though that you men put the darn seat DOWN. Main reason....when I get up at 3am and fall in the freakin toilet a mere towel does not cut it. This gal is gettin in the shower ( just a slight obsessive disorder I have, don't ask, not pretty ). Now once I finally get out of the shower at 3am somebodys gonna catch hell. Now we wouldn't want that would we, lol. And as far as this lookin before you leap business, I used to turn the light on but it caused a MAN to do much *****ing....Again thanks Christopher for stirring up all this humor. Loved it.
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