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Christopher
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0 posted 2000-10-16 07:52 PM



Because I'm nosey, and curious, and want to know... and like to use tautology to irk Kamla...hehe

Tell me, what vehicles do you have? What do you drive? What would you like to have? This should be a fairly easy one... And yes, S'en, horses count.  

Chris

ps: if you have a 1957 Stingray, you can just keep it to yourself thankyouverymuch

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SpitFire
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1 posted 2000-10-16 08:04 PM


~Ok,...easy. I've got a 96 Ford Explorer (white), wishing I had a 2001 green SAAB (convertible) to go with it and an old beat up but mean and strong Land Rover (with huge kick ass tires). Oh and those little PT Cruiser thingys are kinda cool too,...they remind me of my trip to London? hehe. Nothing antique I'd just ruin it...I'm a terrible driver. *Peace.

*Oh Yeah,...and I've always said that when I grow up I'm getting a grand piano and a horse,...so add me to that one.  .

StarPryncess17
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2 posted 2000-10-16 08:43 PM


do ATVs and Snowmobiles count?!?! hehe definately my vehicles of choice...not too good on the highway though~I drive a 98 plymouth breeze...wishing it was a cute eclipse...or a mustang. I like the Durangos though too! hehe Nice topic ChRiStOpHeR!  
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3 posted 2000-10-16 09:11 PM


Okay, yep, I'm a teen, so we get the old cars, woo hoo!  An '88 Chrysler LeBaron for me, white and very well kept up.  And it goes fast too, VROOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!  

*Krista Knutson*

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Helen Keller


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4 posted 2000-10-16 10:02 PM


I have a 99 windstar that I sometimes get to drive ... and a 2000 Daewooo o o o o ( ghosts )

that gets me to work and back.

I really would like to have a Harley

It's not really for me ... it's for my other self

WhtDove
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5 posted 2000-10-16 10:34 PM


95 Chevy Lumina Van (burgendy) which just happened to take a dump on me last night. Grrrrrr...and I had to start a new job today.
Grrr....and borrow the sis in laws car.....

BUT I wish I had an older Nova...or mustang convertible    Souked up of course.  

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6 posted 2000-10-17 12:13 PM



JeepCherokee(98)is what is driven everyday
As for what my dreamwheels would be...
I've always been a Ferrari fanatic and I fancy the model 456MGTA in SILLLLLLLLLLLLVER!

Coco

Elizabeth
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7 posted 2000-10-17 12:31 PM


I don't drive. Plain and simple.  

Elizabeth


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Irie
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8 posted 2000-10-17 01:45 AM


I currently drive a 94 Honda Accord....
I would like to be driving a full size Dodge Ram 4X4 truck!
Yes Chris.....A DODGE! Go wretch else where!
At least it's not the other one you hate even worse! LOL
Oh, and about the Vet....a good friend of mine has a..... Oh oops...Never mind  


~Sheri

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left by those who got there first"

Parker
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9 posted 2000-10-17 02:34 AM


Well, a Black 1980 Vette, is as close as I get to the 57 dream machine...
But I drive daily a 91 Thunderbird sport, and dream about a AC Cobra 427.

Parker

serenity blaze
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10 posted 2000-10-17 03:30 AM


I HATE CAR QUESTIONS!!!  UNFAIR!!!  but I do know the feel of the humid air in New Orleans being a relief as ya clang yer way down St. Charles Avenue on the streetcar...and the city bus?  Those episodes alone would make a decent collection of short stories... Did I ever tell ya th'one...?...Nope...you'll just have to buy the book...LOL..."Serenity Travels"
Erin
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11 posted 2000-10-17 04:00 AM


Who cares about the car for me. I just wish I had my drivers license. LOL Im to scared to get it at 18 years old. Isnt that sad????

~*Love is sometimes like a rose. Beautiful in the beginning but dies in the end.*~

Severn
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12 posted 2000-10-17 06:38 AM


~fume~
BSC
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13 posted 2000-10-17 08:31 AM


I have a 2000 Pontiac Bonneville, Black, hubby has a '98 Ford F150 XLT, black & silver - and for fun he has a '78 Chevy Malibu, dark, dark green, that he and my sons drag race (don't really know anything about that one except it goes too fast)!  
Trevor
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14 posted 2000-10-17 09:55 AM


....a golden chariot fashioned in the shape of a sphynx pulled by 8 naked women and one peg legged dwarf whose nose lights up red when I say the words, "John Jingle Jamerhiemerschmit"....
Local Rebel
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15 posted 2000-10-17 11:49 AM


I drive my boss crazy
JP
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16 posted 2000-10-17 02:19 PM


I have a pair of Rockport 'prowalkers' (black), they have about 50k miles on them, in need of new treads....


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sweetcollege_girl
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17 posted 2000-10-17 02:57 PM


Well...I drive a 1992 Isuzu pickup truck. Everywhere. My dream TRUCK would be a 1986 Ford f-250, Diesel with 2 gas tanks, and a long bed in electric blue. My dream CAR would probably be a 1999 Ford Mustang in white or hunter green.. *sigh*



~*~SCG~*~

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18 posted 2000-10-17 03:45 PM


For work I drive a 1987 Grand Am in primo condition. My husband drives a 1997 Hyundai Excel. My son drives a 1989 Hyundai Excel. And we have a Honda 754 motorcycle. Dream car would be the new Olds Aurora for me, a PT Cruiser for Hubby and son wants a new Mustang. Dream truck 1965 Dodge Power Wagon (on that we all agree) and dream bike Harley UltraGlide (new model) or a Yamaha Royal Star.

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When the dark comes right in and takes me,
from my front walk and into bed,
where it kisses my face and eats my head. Shivaree

Nicole
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19 posted 2000-10-17 04:09 PM


lol@Trevor!

I drive a 2001 Kia Rio, kinda metallic bluish gray.  (yes...it has already been lost in parking lots of supermarkets.)

Since I usually have at least two kids in tow at any given time, I'd loooooove to have one of those snazzy little SUV's that'll hold tons of people, and drive well in mud. (shaddup Chris)


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Christopher
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20 posted 2000-10-17 04:34 PM


Y'all are too cute!  
(I would never have guessed Local Rebel.)

I normally drive a '97 Tacoma, concord blue... a black '93 Honda Nighthawk (gotta lub dem motorcycles!)... and am working toward getting my Porshe up and running... actually, it IS running.. but it needs a bit o' work before it's road-worthy... and finally - my 1999 18-speed Mongoose (also concord blue..) sees a lot of miles too... specially in the mountains.


jbouder
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21 posted 2000-10-17 04:50 PM


I'm 30, balding, and drive a mini-van.  There HAS to be a 12 step program SOMEWHERE for me!

Hey Trev ... when we go out, we take your ride.  Deal?  

Jim

P.S. I'd pick a Porsche Boxter chauffeured by that Rebecca Alma chick (Dark Angel ... the FOX show) and case of Rogaine in the trunk.  

Ron
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22 posted 2000-10-17 05:16 PM


Miata


zoom zoom ...


RainbowGirl
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23 posted 2000-10-17 05:52 PM


Mr Nosey: *g*...Not sure it will mean anything to you but my little baby is a dark blue corsa 1.4 cdx injection fueled but I bought her because she was one of the first to have a cd player in and is a limited edition and I do love my music...ROFL...the fact that she appears to be an average car but can fly like a mini helicopter with me behind the wheel tells more about me than I like to admit...LOL..

Now the car of my dreams would be a Morgan...drooling seriously now....I've had most in the way of sports cars because I love the open air but that would be my dream only trouble is they're a tad bit expensive, around 100k and I just don't earn that much, saw a new one the other day though and would you believe it was in my local supermarket carpark, roof down, chrome gleaming, leather soft....how dare the owner park it and leave it there!!!!...LOL

HUSG

Edit: and just to put the record straight, I used to have a BSA 650 twin carb and loved every minute of her and the feel of the leather...*g*

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Local Rebel
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24 posted 2000-10-17 06:14 PM


Jim,

12 steps

1. Decide what you really want in life because you only have 40 to 50 years left

2.  Start acting on it.

3.  Go to counseling to satisfy people that you're getting help with your mid-life crisis

4. Tell you're therapist what you really want in life.

5.  Get the car you really want because you're therapist told you that you need to take positive action

6. Don't join the hair club for men because bald is cool (think Patrick Stewart)

7. Leave the mini-van parked for those occasions when you have to tote the kids around -- or better still swap it for a 4x4 full size crew cab pick up with big knobby tires and a cool roll bar with spot lamps and the whole nine yards

8. Get a tatoo

9.  Tell everyone you're changing your name to JB Poet..

10. Get a nice leather sport coat

11. Get a nautalis and get ripped

12. write poetry on the internet....

lol

StarPryncess17
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25 posted 2000-10-17 06:35 PM


You guys are way too funny!!!!!

Erin~I feel stupid...I never knew that!! haha Oh wellers...I dunno why you're scared! The day I turned 16, was in line at the DMV waiting for it to open. LoL  

Local Rebel~ For some odd reason, it wasn't all that much of a surprise to me!!   And don't worry you're not alone!  

Jim~got out while you can!!!!! haha only kidding!! Just get a new car!   Minivans are...what should I say?....well, you know. Not being mean, my mom has one...but since I'm only 16 (almost 17   ) I still think they are embarassing to be seen in... I mean, who really likes 'pimpin' the mini-van?

Ron~doesn't seem like you!!! LoL I just can't see it!  

you guys are too much for this lil girl!  


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26 posted 2000-10-17 07:57 PM


Dell---Dimension, L 550
Christopher
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27 posted 2000-10-17 08:02 PM


Cindy! You had a BSA? Oh don't I wish! My dad used to have one, (used to race for BSA actually) but sigh - no passing on to the kids kinda thing....
Honeybee
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28 posted 2000-10-17 09:26 PM



I drive a red Sunfire  
I luv it!  I'm such a guy when it comes to my car, I wax it, clean it all the time, kiss it, take care of it like it's my baby and I even named it Antonio because it's a sporty car    I would rather lose my left arm than for anything to ever happen to my car!

But my dream car would be a silver metallic mustang convertable


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29 posted 2000-10-17 10:04 PM


I drive a '97 Grand Am, white. I love Pontiacs. I've never had a problem with any that I have owned. Can't say the same for other makes. I've surely had a lemon or two...before the Lemon laws, of course...and since you asked me not to, I won't mention the 1957 Stingray in the garage.  

you'requitewelcome
Denise

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30 posted 2000-10-18 06:53 AM


I sure did Chris and a Honda and a etc etc...I can remember doing my Star Riders course and being the only female there...heck, that was hard navigating in and out of all those cones but served me well and I loved being able to practise "stopping on a sixpence"...*g*  It was good when they changed the law so that learners could only drive up to a 250cc, still pretty powerful though..

Bet your dad has some great stories to tell..   

HUSG

Ron
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31 posted 2000-10-18 07:47 AM


I rode a motorcycle for years until, in the early nineties, California finally managed to pass a helmet law (they had tried unsuccessfully for half a decade). I got rid of the bike seven days before the law went into effect. When I arrived in Michigan three years ago, one of the first questions I asked was whether helmets were required. Sadly, they are. And, yea, I know there are many valid arguments for helmets. When my oldest daughter started riding, I vehemently cautioned her to use a helmet. But after twenty years of riding without one, I find a helmet is contrary to the whole experience. Sure, it's safer - but if you want safety, you shouldn't be on a bike in the first place.  

StarPryncess17 said (in reference to the Miata)
quote:
Ron~doesn't seem like you!!! LoL I just can't see it!


Those who have ridden with me might disagree. I have yet to experience too fast (or too high).

The Miata has been a fairly suitable replacement for the Honda. It has twice as many wheels, but is open and really doesn't weight a whole lot more. And I don't have to wear a helmet!



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32 posted 2000-10-18 10:40 AM


Ron -- you should have aimed just a tad bit south -- Indiana has no helmet law...  

but I will say -- there are only two kinds of bikers in the world -- those who've gone down -- and those who will... and -- when I went down some 20 years ago my head was the first thing on the asphalt -- in a helmet law state -- so you can all blame my presense here on the fine state of Tennessee -- try not to inudate that poor state with your hate mail though!  

(incidently -- when I can get away with it I don't wear a helmet either -- but when I'm doing any heavy riding I pull it off the back of the bike and park it on my head)

and um oops I cheated -- I didn't tell about my vehicles --

Nighthawke 700 1984 (I love crotch rockets)

95 Grand Am 3100 V6SE British Racing Green with 110k miles on one set of plugs (with an ignition system I played a key role in designing and implementing into manufacturing thank you)

95 Taurus SHO -- Light Moca (almost silver
88 Astro Van (the perfect kid car -- big and old -- you don't care what they do to the seats)

74.5 MGB with a retrofitted rice burner -- Corvette Red

other cars I've worn out

89 Aerostar
92 Silverado
84 Cougar 3.0
84 Ford F150 XLT
74 El Camino
78 Caprice
76 Honda Civic
72 Duster 340 (the fastest damn car I ever had -- I wonce had it pegged out when I passed a firebird on a 4 lane highway -- about 20 miles up the road I stopped for a um soda and the guy in the TA pulled in a few minutes after -- he turned out to be somebody I knew and told me his speedo registered 140  -- he was doing 135 when I went around him..)
49 Flathead Ford
47 Flathead Ford
57 Chevy
26 Dodge Brothers Sedan
68 Camaro
65 Mustang Rag Top
66 New Yorker



Christopher
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33 posted 2000-10-18 03:07 PM


quote:
but if you want safety, you shouldn't be on a bike in the first place.


See Ron, I found it's perfectly safe on a motorcycle! The trick is to ride so fast that trouble can't catch up to you!  

The only other vehicle I've had worth noting was a 1972 Chevy Malibu Chevelle. 350 Small Block - 4-barrel Hemmy - VROOOOOM! Painted a pewter gray with Black interior (past the 25 year limit, so I didn't have to smog her... hehe) Believe me, it's better that she got the Chevelle... My foot weighs too much... hehe

Nan
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34 posted 2000-10-18 03:32 PM



Ron
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35 posted 2000-10-18 03:44 PM


quote:
The trick is to ride so fast that trouble can't catch up to you!


Then I must be doing it right, because I've had exactly one fender-bender in two decades. Just drove the bike away from the dealership and (of course) wanted to see what she had. When the next traffic light turned green, I punched it and I think I was doing 60 before I cleared the intersection. As luck would have it, 150 feet away, the rail guards on a train crossing began to descend. No way could I stop in time. I could have dumped the bike, but figured my slide would end just about where the train wanted to be. So I went through the guard rail, snapping it and painting a nasty white streak across the front of the bike. Needless to say, I beat the train.

I've had two other cars, besides the Miata, that I've really enjoyed. One was a bright orange 1972 Opal GT with some serious engine mods. It only had two speeds: blindingly fast or sitting in the garage waiting on parts. My best car, though, was the first "real" one I owned (besides the teenage clunkers), and I suspect LR can relate. Metallic copper 1967 Mustang, 3-speed, 386 cobra-jet, the only vehicle that almost literally became an extension of my body. I doubt the world has ever created a better automobile. Three days after I made the last payment on the Mustang, it was sitting in front of my house and an LTD came barreling around the corner and tried real hard to crawl into the trunk. It didn't fit…

RainbowGirl
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36 posted 2000-10-18 07:11 PM


Talking about accidents and bikes....when I was in my late teens my boyfriend at that time had a bike, a bonneville (beauty) and we were traveliing to a country pub and some crazy person changed a road work sign to the opposite direction, next thing I knew I cannonballed into a tree, broke an arm a leg and a few ribs and what did he say "is my bike ok?" lol....my dad wasn't best pleased but thankfully I was wearing a helmet because if I hadn't the impact alone would have killed me and would not have been down to unexperience but some lousy lout who wanted a laugh....it took some time before I could get on another bike but I refused to let fear ground me from a love of being free....same thing happened when travelling in a car one cold November, snow was on the dual carriage way and tracks from previous cars had formed, somehow my car drifted from the track and I ended up on the opposite carriageway a few yards from a roundabout in the wrong....my heart panicked but my skill kept me safe, once clear and on the right track once more I pulled over and was terribly sick....I went on an advanced skid pad one week later...I do love to drive fast but to me the thrill is in the skill not causing mayhem to other drivers...for that reason I will never drive an automatic, I like to drive the beast not have it, drive me...

Did someone say (no names Ron  *g* ) that intercourse tells more than discourse....it truly does..

HUGS

Christopher
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37 posted 2000-10-18 07:21 PM


Had my share - though the only time I've ever dumped the bike was riding in dirt (and believe me, it hurts... plenty...) Most of the times, I'd bail mid-air, because you just know that you're going to land the bike wrong... and the last thing in the world you want to do is hit nose-first and go flying over the handlebars... hopefully not INTO them... (*ouch*)...

What's REALLY fun, is riding with a friend on back... and popping a wheelie when you take off... Rob won't ride on the back of a bike with me anymore... wonder why...

Ahem - Yeah Cindy - agreed 100% with you - No automatics for this boy... though I do admit that sometimes when I'm stuck in the 580 parking lot on the drive home... an automatic would be kinda nice...  

Hehe - Ron, you can't get 'way with nuthin' 'round here!  

rene
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38 posted 2000-10-18 09:42 PM


i would love a jag 56 roadster, i have no pot to urinate in nor do i have a window to throw said pot out of
Alle'cram
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39 posted 2000-10-19 11:37 PM


1966 Mustang, turned it over to our oldest son this year (for storage-yeah, right!)..
white with black leather....!  this other junk here is to boring to mention.

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40 posted 2000-10-23 04:18 PM


Hmmmm....
For me, a 97 Ford Contour which only had only 23,000 miles on it when we bought it last year.  Don't know much about cars, but feel that was a good thing.  

For him, a 97 Nissan Kingcab pickup. I'm ready to trade the stupid thing in, blow it  up, sell it, or something.  

I would like to trade the truck in for one of those newer looking Explorer type vechicles (I'm a female..c'mon..don't know the actual term for those kinds)    I used to want the Nissan Pathfinder, but compared to the newer ones those look cheap to me.  

If I could have it one day, I've thought for a while now that I'd like a Jag. I don't know what year. I know the new ones look fine, but the old ones probably run better.  

ERIN: Don't feel bad. TRUST ME! Get your liscense when YOU are comfortable getting them.  I believe I was 20 when I finally got mine.  


Angel
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41 posted 2000-10-23 11:53 PM


Me? I'm a teenager, too. I have an '88 Honda Civic. It gets me where I need to go. What I really want someday? A 1967 Chevy Corvette Roadster with a 427/435 tripowered big block engine in candy apple red metal flake. Completely customized. I could get into sooooooo much more detail. I won't though because now I'm rambling...but that is a SWEET car  .

I'm done now.

~Susie


"Do you love me because I am beautiful, or am I beautiful because you love me?"
~Cinderella



Elizabeth Cor
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42 posted 2000-10-24 06:18 PM


A bike(the pedal kind)! No, I'm not kidding... Ever heard of a StumpJumper? Gets me everywhere I need to go! Well, except up over the Rockies.. in which case we take my honey's little 2000 Civic (manual  ).
If I HAD to pick a car it would be one of the new hybrids(half electric/half fuel).

Trevor: did my Dad sell you that chariot?

~ Beth does a wheelie

P.S. Liz doesn't drive EITHER? must be an Elizabeth thing...
  




[This message has been edited by Elizabeth Cor (edited 10-24-2000).]

RainbowGirl
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43 posted 2000-10-24 08:54 PM


Anyone read about the lastest car to be designed, it carries a woman, sometimes more than one (in case they run out of breath)..LOL

"Designers unveil air-powered car

Car designers in France say they have produced a vehicle that runs on air and costs just 10p for 60 miles.

The piston power engine of the e.Volution car is powered by the release of compressed air stored in tanks underneath the car. Drivers will be able to plug the vehicle into any electrical power source to fill it up.

The car is being unveiled at the Auto Africa Expo 2000 in Johannesburg. It will be built in France and is expected to be on sale later this year for around £6,700.

The car - which looks like a small minibus - is based on pioneering technology by former F1 engineer Guy Negre, the BBC reports.

Last updated: 16:15 Tuesday 24th October 2000."

Ooops

Christopher
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44 posted 2000-10-27 11:25 PM


Cindy - Do you have a link for that? I'd love to see it!

HUSG

Ron K. Fox
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45 posted 2000-10-28 12:41 PM


At night I take the black, turbo charged vehicle with the fins on the back and the bat emblem on the front...darn...I almost gave up my identity again...excuse me a moment, alfred calling, ok...ah, yes, a 98 jeep cheerokee, and sometimes my wife's benz.  but only when i'm good.
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