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The Spirit of Passions

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Local Rebel
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25 posted 10-27-2000 08:02 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

um.. can I get a Jack Daniels?
Mark Bohannan
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26 posted 10-27-2000 08:23 PM       View Profile for Mark Bohannan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mark Bohannan

Local Rebel-You got it...would you like that to be a double or just the whole bottle?
RainbowGirl
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27 posted 10-27-2000 08:24 PM       View Profile for RainbowGirl   Email RainbowGirl   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit RainbowGirl's Home Page   View IP for RainbowGirl

Sweetheart: make mine a cognac and get me out of this mess...you'be known me for years....how come I type what's in my heart and I end up with a "clickable human response"............

**** Rebel....thank heavens you alone know me for who I am...I don;t say words for the sake of it, I don't flirt, ****....that's heartache....why can't we just value ourselves....I leave the question open, I'm fed up of people and their ego's....can someone just try being a friend?  I'd sure appreciate it.....

As I say: Lovers come and go, friends stay the course....thankfully!

Yes, I'm a bit outspoken this evening and I'll say why cause I'm ....cause I'm that way....it's my only daughter's birthday on Sunday and she died...the momoeries are appalling....on Sunday I will have a hysterectomy so can't even be here then...so who am I...I don't even have an answer to that so I guess I'm not qualified on any of the above either.

[This message has been edited by RainbowGirl (edited 10-27-2000).]
Irie
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28 posted 10-27-2000 08:36 PM       View Profile for Irie   Email Irie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irie

This is one of those moments where my feelings are split......
Hey, I'm woman, I'm allowed!   Hehe



~Sheri

"The things that come to those that wait may be the things
left by those who got there first"


StarPryncess17
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29 posted 10-27-2000 08:48 PM       View Profile for StarPryncess17   Email StarPryncess17   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit StarPryncess17's Home Page   View IP for StarPryncess17

I have argued my opinion on this more times than I can remember...all I can say right at this moment... is I'M SORRY!!

*Being an angel doesn't mean having a halo or wings, it means doing the right thing and wanting to make a difference*

SEA
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with you


30 posted 10-27-2000 09:26 PM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

Mark~ I will meet you in the middle my love..... and if we've moved to the hard stuff, better get me a jack-n-coke then look out cause after a few, I'm kinda out of control........

RG~ Sweet sweet lady, my heart goes out to you...what can I possibly say??? Hugs to you my dear sweet friend.

-SEA
Sven
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31 posted 10-27-2000 10:29 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

Thank you all for your participation in this discussion.  All of your opinions are welcomed and encouraged.

First of all, let me say that this post was in no way directed at any one person.  If someone feels that it was, I apologize, it's just that I've been seeing too much of this and I'm tired of it.  It does nothing to further the cause of Passions, and all it does it cause hurt feelings and makes us lose good poets and good friends.  

I would like to single out some comments.  If I may. . .

Christopher:
quote:
I commend your thoughtfulness for bringing this up Sven, I really do. But I think that focusing on Passions is the wrong approach. By doing it that way, you're likely to miss your intended targets and hit a lot of people that aren't involved. If you're having a problem with some members of your family, do you call all of them out and start calling names? No, you  go to the ones whom you have a problem with. Doing otherwise will often be more problematic than it's worth (as we both know).

Oh - and one more thing: I don't think you have to worry about Passions dying. While there is a small percentage of people who might be hurting it, there is a much larger percentage of those caring, considerate, kind, and strong people holding up the walls.


I think that you have said it correctly Christopher.  Better than I did.  And I know that I may have gone a little overboard here, but I just didn't know how else to approach this.  It was just something that I felt needed to be said. . . and now that I've said it, I will retire back to why I'm here. . . to write and read poetry.  Oh, and yes. . . to participate in wonderful discussions here in The Alley.  

And I know that you and I and all the other people who value Passions will do whatever is necessary to help make sure that Passions is here for all of us. . . and for that, I am thankful.  

And one more thing. . . I appreciate your other comment also!  

proceeding to follow Balladeer in the action of slitting my wrists for agreeing with Christopher about anything  

Isis:
quote:
This isn't a place for people who like to get up on soapboxes, they are not wanted here.  We are all equals, it is a family of friends.

Normal families make up, forgive their arguements or differences we should do the same.

It should be a haven, not a place we fear to come for someone may condemn us.  Almost a poetry commune.


You are absolutely right my friend.  This is a "Family of Friends" and it should always be.  

We should be able to not hold grudges and move on from them.  This should be a haven, a place of acceptance.  It might not always be. . . but it should try to be.  

Thank you!  

RG, thank you for your honest, open responses. . . my heart also goes out to you my friend. . . you always seem to know how to make me laugh. . . and your words have not fallen on deaf ears here. . .  

Okay, that's all. . . I'm done. . . if anyone else has anything to say. . .please feel free. . . if not. . . let's get back to having fun, writing poetry, and making this the best place to be. . .

Our Family of Friends!!!!!

Thank you all again. . .  

------------------------------------------------------------




That which gives light must endure burning
--Victor Frankl

Christopher
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32 posted 10-27-2000 11:13 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

quote:
This isn't a place for people who like to get up on soapboxes, they are not wanted here.


So basically you're saying I'm not wanted here? Seriously though, I disagree with even this. People should be valued for their opinions, strongly stated or otherwise. I don't know about anyone else, but I see the Alley as a soapbox. I like my soapbox. I like it when others get up on their soapbox. It's this very concept which also enhances our diversity. Without strong and differing opinions, we'd all be bbbooorrreeeddd. *yawn*

Every person in here (including myself) who has stated an opinion has gotten up on the Alley Soapbox.   I don't think that's so bad, do you?

Chris

Isis
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33 posted 10-27-2000 11:18 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

I believe we are all in agreeance here.  And THAT is the way it should be...
Namaste
Isis

*I believe every time you put your words to paper, you change. Each feeling is set free, and you may follow.....*
~Isis~Goddess~~Sovereign of the Sp
Isis
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34 posted 10-27-2000 11:25 PM       View Profile for Isis   Email Isis   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Isis's Home Page   View IP for Isis

Oh Chris I see!!  It is hard to define up on a soap box really...

Ummm...  Alright I'll further it a bit... soapbox being shooting off at the mouth, broadcasting for the sake of merely getting attention or 'their' point across.

I love a good topic to debate as much as the next person.  Hey I love the alley too!!  
This sort of thing is fine.

It is when it gets angry, bitter and hurtful, that is what we DON"T need.  We can get our opinions across without slander or violence for we are writers......

That is what I mean just getting on the soapbox to make sure everyone knows your opinion whether it is right or wrong is wrong.  For there is always so much more involved - facts, truth or lies, and people's feelings.  And people's feelings and emotions are the touchstone of who and what they are.  We may not agree with them but must respect them...

Does that help any>??

*I believe every time you put your words to paper, you change. Each feeling is set free, and you may follow.....*
~Isis~Goddess~~Sovereign of the Sp
Parker
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... the old black rum


35 posted 10-27-2000 11:47 PM       View Profile for Parker   Email Parker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Parker's Home Page   View IP for Parker

Sorry and I don't want to make light of the seriousness of this post.....

But I think we should get on with the judging of the swim suit portion of this program..... MISS PASSIONS.... that would be your cue... serenity.. please strut down center stage in your skimpyest... and be judged...  

since she wants to be Miss Passions...I want to be Mr. Judge.

So everybody be quiet while I concentrate here, and then you can go back to your most serious discussion.

Here we go.....
serenity                                                                           RainBowGirl                                                                   SEA                                                                             Irie                                                                              StarPryncess17                                                   Isis                                                                            Sunshine                                                              Poet DeVine                                            Christopher
                            10 10 10              anybody else                                  10 10 10                                                   10 10 10                                                                         10 10 10                                                                         10 10 10                                                             woo hoo 10 10 10                                                     10 10 10                                                                10 10 10                                                                          Chris get off the stage                    Well your all winners, even you Chris.  
Parker
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... the old black rum


36 posted 10-27-2000 11:51 PM       View Profile for Parker   Email Parker   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Parker's Home Page   View IP for Parker

Oh, yes great discussion.... sorry to interrupt.....

Parker
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37 posted 10-28-2000 10:41 AM       View Profile for Poertree   Email Poertree   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poertree

KICK




YOUR SOAPBOX JUST COLLAPSED CHRIS - LOL
dgvarner
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38 posted 10-28-2000 12:50 PM       View Profile for dgvarner   Email dgvarner   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for dgvarner

this "cwap" makes me tired...

heehee..parker made a funny....  

hugs and stuff..dg
Skyfyre
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39 posted 10-29-2000 03:20 PM       View Profile for Skyfyre   Email Skyfyre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfyre

Argh ...

I will first qualify (or disqualify, as the case may be) my reply by saying that I have not read this entire dialogue ... I skimmed over the original post and some of the key points made in the first few replies.  Somehow, I don't think that reading the entire thing was necessary.

There will never exist a gathering, whether real or virtual, of human company in which there is no disagreement.  We all dream about idyllic situations and "everybody getting along," but if we were to be truly honest with ourselves, we would all realize that such fantasies are just that -- fantasies.  And not even very interesting ones, I might add.

The human culture -- and on a more basic level, the human psyche -- is built on controversy.  We're not happy unless we have a problem to solve.  Now, before anyone pipes up with "Why can't we just work together to solve any problem that comes up?", let me remind you that there are a million ways to approach the solution to any problem, and there is absolutely no way that ALL of us will agree on ONE method.  Period.  I have friends on the forums -- some of them close friends -- and I don't even agree with THEM all the time; why would it be any different with the ones I don't personally know?  Not to mention that there are a few people here that I have developed somewhat of a distaste for, for various reasons.  (whispers of Oh my GOD, I don't believe she SAID that, the lousy INSURRECTIONIST!')  Yeah, whatever, people -- as far as I'm concerned, if everyone here LIKES me, I've not been doing my job right ...  

In a nutshell, Passions IS a reflection of society -- live with it.

--Linda


Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
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