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What's in a title?

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Poet deVine
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0 posted 08-31-99 01:04 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Do you read a poem because the title grabs you or because it was written by a favorite poet?

What would happen if on one date, everyone posted a poem by someone else (we'd choose buddies) and the title was: No Title.

We'd have to read every poem (the author's name would be at the end)...
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1 posted 08-31-99 12:46 PM       View Profile for JP   Email JP   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit JP's Home Page   View IP for JP

I read poems in a particular order:

First I go to Critical Analysis forum and read those written by certain poets listed on my "must read" list. Then those whose titles interest me.

Second it is to Dark Passions and the same criteria for reading.

Then to the open forum and the same criteria.

Finally depending on time, I start at the top of the Open forum and begin to read all the new stuff, when done there I move to CA and Dark Passions. All the while, leaving myself time to go to the discussion forums as well.


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2 posted 09-01-99 01:01 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

I always start with my fave's first, but usually am caught somewhere in the middle by a title that catches my eye. I think a title is one of the most important parts of a poem. It can be used simply as an eye-catcher, or it can be used to describe the words within, or it can also be used, (and this is my favorite method,)to answer questions, tie up the poem, or raise intriquing questions about its meaning.
But no matter what, I ALWAYS read yours ms deVIne!

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3 posted 09-01-99 01:13 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

What can we do to improve our titles if they are so important? And a title is the only thing on your posting that you can't edit, a moderator has to do it!

JP, what? No adult forum?
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4 posted 09-05-99 10:18 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Titles grab me, I admit. Especially when I first started. Now it's titles and faves - but I try and answer at least three people who have only one or two replies or (a crime) none at all. Yet, with so many - you can get title overload. Is there really anything we can do to make them more interesting? Short seems to be better - a short title grabs people and the word(s) need to be impacting ones.
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5 posted 09-06-99 12:28 PM       View Profile for Saxoness   Email Saxoness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Saxoness

DeVine,

Ok, here is what I do. I always go to the open forum list first, and look through them.Then, I go to The Alley, to see if I can stick my 2 cents in anywhere. Then it's off to Passions in Prose, Then Dark passions, the C/A, then back to the open forum, where I reply to my favorite poets first, then begin at the top and see how far I get. Very dissorderly, but it works for me.

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6 posted 09-06-99 04:32 PM       View Profile for Julie   Email Julie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Julie

So JP when do you post?? And I thought I was
methodical.

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7 posted 09-07-99 12:08 PM       View Profile for JP   Email JP   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit JP's Home Page   View IP for JP

PDV - I do go into the Adult forum on occasion, but I find it distracting for the rest of my day...

As for when I post Julie, I find I do that in spurts, I have two or three works I want to post and I put them up before I start browsing... it gets confusing if I read and try to write - I forget where I left off...

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8 posted 09-15-99 11:37 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

I am grabbed by interesting titles - ones that seem provocative... [but not titles that YELL at me...]

However if I need a laugh, then you all know what needs to be looked for...

From there I go to ones that have the least responses, and especially look for eggs "0" because everyone needs a boost...and then I respond if I can...however, in Open Forum, I have decided not to critique [as there has been flack over that] unless it's requested...so if I don't like it, or if I see that it's hard to read, etc., I do not respond...

Finally, I go to my favorite authors, and you all stand in line for that one.
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9 posted 09-15-99 02:44 PM       View Profile for DreamEvil   Email DreamEvil   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit DreamEvil's Home Page   View IP for DreamEvil

Like a book, a poem should not be judged solely by it's title. However the title is what catches the eye enough to stir interest. Admittedly, I hardly reply to anything unless it truly piques my interest, the poem not the title. I start in the Alley here and work my way up the forum lists until I hit Open. I READ much more than I reply to.

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10 posted 09-19-99 01:52 PM       View Profile for Michael   Email Michael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Michael

Mz DeVine,
It's no secret it's impossible to read even half of the poetry posted here without eyes getting bloodshot and brain going numb.
I, like JP, have a must read list of poets who've grabbed my attention with the excellence of their work. (Yours included).
Time is a hinderance though. Like DreamEvil, I read much more than I could ever respond to everyday.
Other than staying on top of all works posted to the Dark Forum, I believe the attention a title draws towards the piece is the key reason I may choose one poem over another with the poets being unkown to me. I myself often fret over the titles ove my own work. The title has always seemed most more important to me, than any other part of the poem.


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11 posted 11-12-2000 07:38 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

Another to bring to the top - an interesting question!
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12 posted 11-12-2000 09:05 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Revising answer...

lol

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

title - still a drawcard - but I've discovered it really doesn't mean anything at all.

Heh

Imagine a whole list of poems called 'Untitled' - my my wouldn't we be in a quandary...

K
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13 posted 11-12-2000 09:55 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Well I go in order in places i read....
First i go to the alley, then Feelings, then Anouncements and links.....then dark passions, then corner.....then holiday.....then teen explorer, and then teen poetry (my fav).........

As for titles......i read ALL poems in teen poetry and holiday......the rest of the poems i reply to are due to their catchy titles and WHO the author is.



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14 posted 11-12-2000 11:07 PM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

Thanks for bringing this back up Chris ... I missed this one. I usually head to Moderators first, then to Teen ... then I usually check into the Alley, Feelings, Suggestions, Q&A and finally Open, where I read and reply in absolutely no particular order anymore, LOL.

And I do think titles are important. If I haven't read someone's work, and they have an interesting title, it will often draw me in. I've gotten to know many wonderful poets this way.  
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If the poet is known to me and one whose work I like, I'll read no matter what. Since I've been posting in a small forum (CA), I read all of the poems there.

If I foray into open, it's usually by the title, which is supposed to be from the heart of the poem, though it can often be ambiguous, clouded, or misleading.

I feel titles do not have to reveal the poem's meaning, but sometimes, if a work is abstract, it can help the reader to identify with concepts. Titles which immediately put a question into my mind as to what the poem may or may not contain usually grab my attention first. Obvious titles would only get notice if they were of a subject matter I was interested in, and, of course, everyone has their own tastes.

As to how to make titles more interesting...I think one should try to form a title that speaks of the poem, yet makes the reader curious as to what it contains. I know...easier said than done. Well, I tried.
mia

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16 posted 11-13-2000 11:18 AM       View Profile for angelface   Email angelface   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for angelface

that is a great question....

Since I don't have my own computer (durn thing died), and I haven't been here that long, I don't have too many favorites.  I usually go by title, and then to an assorted number of boards that vary every time I login.    

I also read more than I reply to, but then I wonder how that particular person I don't reply to is going to write "better" poetry if they don't know what anyone thinks or what parts people do & don't like.  

Thank you for bearing the run-on-ness of that last paragraph.     The one thing I've noticed about these boards is that there are no "constructively critical" remarks about anyone's poem.  Maybe I'm missing something, or haven't been here long enough.  Maybe everyone is that good, although, I know everyone writes clunkers, especially those who are looking to refine their writing (like me!!   ).  

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17 posted 11-13-2000 11:19 AM       View Profile for angelface   Email angelface   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for angelface

that is a great question....

Since I don't have my own computer (durn thing died), and I haven't been here that long, I don't have too many favorites.  I usually go by title, and then to an assorted number of boards that vary every time I login.    

I also read more than I reply to, but then I wonder how that particular person I don't reply to is going to write "better" poetry if they don't know what anyone thinks or what parts people do & don't like.  

Thank you for bearing the run-on-ness of that last paragraph.     The one thing I've noticed about these boards is that there are no "constructively critical" remarks about anyone's poem.  Maybe I'm missing something, or haven't been here long enough.  Maybe everyone is that good, although, I know everyone writes clunkers, especially those who are looking to refine their writing (like me!!   ).  

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18 posted 11-13-2000 04:15 PM       View Profile for warmhrt   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for warmhrt

angelface,

Try CA (Critical Analysis)if you're looking for helpful criticism. That's what they're there for (but be prepared for your work to be sliced and diced!...J/K).
mia

...got to be somewhere better than in the middle...~Wallflowers



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19 posted 11-14-2000 05:31 AM       View Profile for Elizabeth Cor   Email Elizabeth Cor   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Elizabeth Cor

No order here, of course... I hop to whichever forum I feel like going to that day, and eventually work my way into the others.
I look for interesting titles, favorite poets, and "eggs"/few responses... then, if I've the time, work my way about the list until I've at least READ almost all of the new posts...
Honestly, the mass of this place is a little frustrating at times. I don't have the time to visit Passions more than once to three times a week, and a person can miss SO much in that amount of time. Often, I find myself just trying to "catch up" once I'm here.

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20 posted 11-14-2000 10:09 AM       View Profile for SEA   Email SEA   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for SEA

I have favorites that I read, I don't like to see the ones with no replys so I try to get those first, then I like titles, if they sound really neat, I'll read, at the same time, if a title looks like it will be a painful subject that I just can't read, I either don't read it, or I wait till I think I won't cry then read it! I try to read as much as I can....... -SEA
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21 posted 11-14-2000 04:07 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Where have I been? (please, don't answer that, I really don't wanna know) but....I once wrote a poem, and it got very few replies...and a friend said he thought it was a good poem, but a really rotten title...so...as an experiment? I had Nan change the title for me.  He was right, and I learned a lesson.
 
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