you're right of course, cost is all relative. all i was getting at was whether, in these times of global information exchange, the ordinary gas buying person in the US actually realised the disparity in fuel costs. and of course you are right about the knock on effect of fossil fuel prices rises. these go into many seemingly unrelated sectors of the economy, although i guess the mechanisms are the same in most developed countries.
and your last point is also right as well i think , and from what i understand the car manufacturers are finally taking the issue seriously and have banded together to fund research into alternative forms of propulsion. certainly many alternatively powered vehicles are now available but none (not even the hydrogen alternative) are quite capable of commercial production yet. as for solar power and wind power for domestic and industrial use, i think they are both likely to be dead ends unless something alters radically in the conversion equation.
thanks for your thoughts Linda
Thanks Dopey .....er..maybe you should run for President you might do a good job..
Hmm.. see your point, but as Kevin points out we have resources over here (maybe not at the same proportional level), yet the "green" argument "allows" our government to raise a good deal of cash for the exchequer while appropriating the moral high ground. Why doesn't the US do the same thing? Are the barriers purely political or is there an economic consideration which would genuinely preclude such a move? For example would higher tax on fuel damage the haulage business beyond recovery? If so, why can our hauliers handle the extra cost but not yours? Ok ok i know - far too complex to argue here, but these are the sort of questions i had in mind.
hummm..... interesting, and of course, like Linda, you are right. I was under the impression though that the refining costs of these alternatives still make them uneconomic, but then of course this may only be the case when the cost of adapting all the engines, machinery and domestic appliances is taken in to account
well, i have all the same reservations about the causes of climate change (if it exists) that you have. people these days are so short termist it really annoys me...lol... remember only a few years back yorkshire water ferrying water round in tankers to its drought stricken population. ohh, all the water authorities cried, the water aquifer is exhausted, it'll never recover etc etc ....now look at us!!! we practically have to swim to get to work! Ok rant over, but the point is, it's all the same mentality - jumping to conclusions, and the media don't help either. There's been climate change over millions and millions of years, severe climate change, and some of it occurring in very short periods of time, so why we should be arrogant enough to think that is going to alter and we're just gonna sail along with the same weather and temperatures for ever more, i simply don't know.... so i agree
you don't like tax on fuel i take it...heh heh
disagree with you about wind power (anglesey for instance is now blighted by whirling white monstrosities which produce about 10% of the island's requirement and believe me Anglesey is windy...lol)
I guess we all eat less burgers then? ....lol
Tell me the cow farts thing was a joke ...geez?
some pharmaceuticals we could well do without IMHO ...but that's a whole new topic ..hummm
yep you are being silly - but then feeding cows to cows was silly.....no? and don't get me started on farmers .. argggggggg
Sindy ! ~grin~
actually i was almost gettin' to like the self satisfied twit (despite the two jags and the forgotten principles). Don't you think he's SUCH a statesman though? i mean leaving the Hague with the parting comment:
geez........ mind you at least he's coherent .. you need to take a crash course in alien to understand robin cook, and even then there's probably no point in learning anything other than the alien for "I'm the best thing since sliced bread" ..or whatever aliens eat .... etc etc...
yeah poor poor john missing his mummy ..or did you have something else in mind ~smirk~ ... cindy!!!!
you tellin' me seriously you wouldn't want to marry dear jp ... not even with his dual jags? ...~shaking my head~ ..sheesh ..you don't know what you're missin' cindy ...lol
bye to all, and thanks