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Elizabeth
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100 posted 03-04-2001 07:03 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

Sandra don't worry about mine! I only included the URL's to your site where my poems are posted so I could keep track of where it is. I'm a lot more concerned about the other people who are passing off my work as their own! Believe me the webmasters of those sites will be hearing from me!

[This message has been edited by Elizabeth (edited 03-04-2001).]
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101 posted 03-04-2001 07:19 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Beccy I agree - to them!!!

And Sandra - reading this I have to say your willingness to help and amend is really wonderful!

Hugs - and welcome to the family...

K
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102 posted 03-04-2001 07:27 PM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

Sandra - I have a good idea... Sit back - relax... Post a poem with us here first... and read a bit... What PdV said... She's right...
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103 posted 03-04-2001 08:28 PM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

Thanks for understanding Sandra, we all appreciate your efforts ...Welcome to Passions!
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104 posted 03-04-2001 09:08 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Sandra, if there ever was a back door to entering Passions, you found it....or perhaps, IT found YOU...Welcome!

I would send you a special e-mail except I haven't seen you post one in OPEN #12 yet, and I would guess, from knowing my fellow moderators, we are going to fall on you like flies on a .... well....you get the drift. LOL....

Forgive me...I was a cow-calf raiser a while back....

Sandra...again, welcome....big hugs....bigger acknowledgement of the PERSON that you are!

WhtDove
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105 posted 03-04-2001 10:01 PM       View Profile for WhtDove   Email WhtDove   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WhtDove's Home Page   View IP for WhtDove

Kamla, I still got no reply, doubtful I will.

Sandra, c'mon and join us, post a poem.
Like Sharon said, we don't expect you to do it all in a day.

And the rest of you should know, I don't think it accidental at all that we came upon Sandra, or vice-versa. I really believe it was Divinely intended.
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106 posted 03-04-2001 11:46 PM       View Profile for wayoutwalt   Email wayoutwalt   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wayoutwalt

if only Robert Burns wasn't a poet and Walt Disney wasn't the spawn of satan that it is today...
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107 posted 03-05-2001 08:49 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

An update:

quote:
I am very sorry that this has happened. The page with your poem and all

the pages done with work from Poetry Buffet will be taken off. The lady

who made those pages mistakenly thought they were available for use.

She also is the one who does the pagebuilding on the computer and right

now is offline because of storms that hit her area yesterday and she has

not been able to get back online. As soon as she is able she will take

the pages off and will contact you herself.
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Subject: Poetry site, use of poetry that has not been authorized

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I belong to a poetry group called Passions in Poetry. As of yesterday, a

member notified others that several sites were pulling off poetry from the

Main Page of Ron Carnell's [website owner] site. Many of the poetry pieces

being used on other sites is copyrighted.
Moreover, contact of the author[s] has not been made. You have one of my

poems at your site Edot, namely, "Whisperings" by SunshineKRJ.
Please contact me as to why you felt you could use my poetry at your site

without permission. Thank you.


WhtDove
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108 posted 03-05-2001 10:28 AM       View Profile for WhtDove   Email WhtDove   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WhtDove's Home Page   View IP for WhtDove

Karilea, I got the same one from her, saying something about her using webtv. Didn't really understand that one.

But anyhow, I believe I told her, I granted permission, and they didn't have to take mine down.
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109 posted 03-05-2001 11:29 AM       View Profile for sans38   Email sans38   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit sans38's Home Page   View IP for sans38

Hi all!
Last night I was thinking to myself that I am glad that all of this happened! I always say that everything in life happens for a reason and sometimes the reasons are very good! I am so happy to have this opportunity to get to know all of you!
I am going to post a poem as soon as I finish this....I feel kinda nervous about it...kinda silly since I've posted lots of my writing on my web site!! but I'm afraid my stuff pales in comparison to all of your wonderful poems! Oh well...lol...here goes!
WhtDove
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110 posted 03-05-2001 11:34 AM       View Profile for WhtDove   Email WhtDove   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WhtDove's Home Page   View IP for WhtDove

Sandra don't be nervous here!
We're all a bunch of people who pour out our heart on paper.

I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms!
Glad to hear you're gonna stick around

Welcome! Looking forward to that first poem.
Alicat
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111 posted 03-05-2001 12:02 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

I agree with you, Sandra. All things do happen for a reason, though we may not always understand the why.

Once you catch your breath, take a good look around. This place is a LOT bigger than it was even a few months ago, with 5 distinct main categories, all with their own subcategories. I think you'll like what you see. Ron has put a lot of himself into this site, as have all the members. And, if your fresh eyes see something that could be improved upon, don't hesitate to drop a note in the Suggestion Box.

In other news, I've finished sending off the rest of the emails. Now, I've just got to wait. Ron, I bcc'd one of em to you....for the site I posted earlier where no credit was given at all. I'll see what transpires, as well as keeping ya'll posted.

Added: Got an email from bianca.com. Looks like this one is gonna get resolved quickly.



[This message has been edited by Alicat (edited 03-05-2001).]
Munda
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112 posted 03-05-2001 04:06 PM       View Profile for Munda   Email Munda   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Munda's Home Page   View IP for Munda

Dang! I should know better than to speak Dutch, write English and be upset at the same time! Instead of hitting "submit" I closed the window...grrr. Ok, I can do it again. LOL
I have found several links to poems I was not aware off.
http://www.postcardsfrombeyond.com/send_a_friend/love_walkwithme.html

Someone turned my poem into a greeting card without asking permission, not linking back to PIP. I have found an email address under "feedback", but I wonder if this will do me any good. Any suggestions anyone?
http://www.angelfire.com/oh4/Spiritsss/WalkWithMe.html

This person mentions my name but had the nerve to alter a line in the poem! Grrr... no email... no guestbook! What can I do?
http://eli.prochatting.com/married_life.htm

This is the person's own wedding page for crying out loud! And NO mentioning of my name! As I cannot find an email address, this person will feel quite embarrassed the next time he reads his guestbook! (After I cooled off though )
http://www.august25wedding.homestead.com/august25wedding.html

Another wedding page! This person doesn't only NOT mention my name, but also left out a verse and altered another! Can you see steam coming out my my ears?
Well, found an email address and guestbook, but I will be polite and email first.

The other 2 links I could not access. I will list them here. If anyone can access them and give me some info on these pages I'd be most grateful.
http://www.pathetic.org/detail/968637395 (LOL that name made me curious!)
Poem: Gift of the Seagull
http://www.goplay.com/Special_K-TheWayYouLoveMe
Poem:Walk With Me

Thanks guys... I need to cool off now first...

Munda

Jesse Jaymz
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Youngstown, ohio


113 posted 03-05-2001 04:15 PM       View Profile for Jesse Jaymz   Email Jesse Jaymz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Jesse Jaymz's Home Page   View IP for Jesse Jaymz

just did my search. i am dead. i died in 1882 in..... wait thats jesse JAMES. ohhhh look at this i am the lead singer for a band named metallica...... no wait thats jaymz HETFIELD. ohhhhhhh look at this. its me, damn thats my passions profile. and a guest book i signed a year back. damn no one likes me. i am crushed. no one will copy me. eheheh. but nothing on me so far. anyone finds ME let ME know where I am. hey cabin fever has me. we got alot of snow so sorry for the sillyness. thanks for pointing this out ali.

rock on yall
jesse

ps. damn i am not a porn star. *sigh*


True beauty is often hidden in darkness...

[This message has been edited by Jesse Jaymz (edited 03-05-2001).]
Munda
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114 posted 03-05-2001 05:57 PM       View Profile for Munda   Email Munda   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Munda's Home Page   View IP for Munda

Hmm I just found out "pathetic.org" somehow pathetically lost their poetry overnight. Justice!



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115 posted 03-05-2001 06:59 PM       View Profile for Acies   Email Acies   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Acies

Sandra --- don't worry to much about you poems. I'm sure everyone would appreciate it.

"So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S.
Marge Tindal
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116 posted 03-05-2001 07:25 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

And another SUCCESS story !

-----Original Message-----
From: Marge Tindal [mailto:noles1@totcon.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 16:54
To:jimloy@icx.net
Cc:abuse@WORLDNIC.NET-namehost@WORLDNIC.COM
Subject:Re:Copyright Violations

Can you produce evidence given to you to use
two of my poems on your site ?
All rights to my poetry are reserved by ME
and not distributed to you for worldwide,
copyright,royalty-free usage.

I respectfully request that you remove my Copyright material from your site -immediately.
~*Marge Tindal*~
http://user.icx.net/~jimloy/r73.htm http://user.icx.net/~jimloy/r28.htm

WHOIS information for freebirthdaypoems.com:

Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Organization: JIM LOY
address: 1155 mehaffey rd
KNOXVILLE,TN 37931 US

Admin contact:JIM LOY
email:no.valid.email@WORLDNIC.NET
phone:423-945-2690
fax:
Tech contact:WorldNIC Name Host
email:namehost@WORLDNIC.COM
phone:888-642-9675
fax:

Nameservers:ns15.worldnic.com
ns16.worldnic.com
=========================================
Sure, sorry about that..

Thanks,
James Loy
1155 Mehaffey Rd
Knoxville TN, 37931
Jimloy@icx.net www.jim.loy.com
865-945-2690


~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~
noles1@totcon.com

Alicat
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117 posted 03-05-2001 07:32 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Yawp...they is GONE, Marge. Got repeated 404's on both of those links.

Way to go, hon!
Balladeer
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118 posted 03-05-2001 07:36 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Thanks to Alicat for finding Small Pain in my Chest on this webpage..
http://dhelton.viainternethosting.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/contact.htm

I have sent the, er, gentleman an e-mail. Should he not answer I tracked down his address and phone number and may have to speak to him in a more personal way
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119 posted 03-05-2001 08:07 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Mike, you may want to search for 'Robot' too..


and when someone finds a site like Mike did, we all need to take some time to look at it to see if we recognize any of the poems. You never know, something may have been missed by the search or someone could change a couple of words that would negate the search.
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120 posted 03-05-2001 09:06 PM       View Profile for Marge Tindal   Email Marge Tindal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marge Tindal's Home Page   View IP for Marge Tindal

I am having a GOOD night ! !  

Hello Jean~
Your pages are lovely.
The page featuring my poem 'Dream A Little Dream Of Me'
is certainly a lovely setting for my thoughts.
http://www.geocities.com/oceans818/sweetdreams.html

I would, however, like a link back to my e-mail address for those who might like to send me a message about my poetry.

I'd also like the fact mentioned that I've given you permission to use my poem and that it is Copyrighted by me and all rights are reserved by me.

If anyone wishes to use my poem for their web page they need to contact me directly.
Thank you so much.
~*Marge Tindal*~
=============================================
Hello Marge:

I was so happy you contacted me re that lovely poem on Sweet Dreams. I will be more than happy to add a link to your email address and site and note that it is copyrighted and I have your permission to use it.

I couldn't remember where I had downloaded it from or would have done this sooner.
I always hope Poet's who find their poems on my web pages will contact me so I can give them the credit for it.
I do whenever I have the information.

Please forgive me for not having done this sooner.

Thank you so much for contacting me and given me your permission to use your work.
Please come back for another visit soon.
Regards.
Jean


~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~
noles1@totcon.com

WhtDove
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121 posted 03-05-2001 09:46 PM       View Profile for WhtDove   Email WhtDove   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WhtDove's Home Page   View IP for WhtDove

HELP ME! I sent out an email and got one back. Right now I'm PISSED! What audacity some people have, I tell ya!

I don't have a reply to this yet. I don't know if I have the right "people" skills right now. I know I don't, cause what I want to say would be edited out. LOL

Here's the email I sent:
Hi,

I was doing a search on my poetry today, and came to your site.
I see someone by the name of "goofy," borrowed my poem "Look Within"
and posted it on your board. I have to give applause as they actually did
give me, the author, credit to the poem.

However, permission was not asked of me to use it, nor was a link provided to
where they found it from. Passions in Poetry

I would appreciate if this member was notified of that, and asked NOT to post
poems of another author unless permission was asked to do so.
That is a violation of copyright laws, and I wish for my poem to be removed
IMMEDIATELY!

Thank you,
WhtDove

Now here's the reply I got back:
quote:

Dear 'whtdove'

I have no problem deleting your poem, as it does not affect me and i'm sure people on my board will not miss it either. This is the first time I even see your poem. Can I have the link to where this poem is at so I can delete it "IMMEDIATELY!"

I understand you have your rights, but as much as you have your rights, people have the right to post things such as poems they have found on the internet on boards, etc. It is not as if he is using your poem for money. And it is not as if he is using your poem on a website. It clearly states "(c) 1999-2000 WhtDove Please respect the rights of the author and Passions in Poetry. If you would like to use this poem on your own web page, please use the Mark button. Thank you. "

They said webpage, not message board. They are two different things. If you don't want people copying your poems, then i suggest you not post them on the internet! At least not on a website where you can email the poems back and forth between friends. Who knows where your poem has ended up! On desktops, printouts, on flyers, you should track down those people too and demand they remove them "IMMEDIATELY!"

I apologize if i'm coming off as rude, however I am disturbed at the way you wrote this email and in fact, I am insulted. You send me an email telling me to remove the poem as if I posted it myself. You might know how to write poetry, but you obviously do not have any people skills.

I am an artist, (http://www.latinabarbie.com/artwork) and I find it flattering when I find my artwork on the internet. It is copywrited as well. But as long as they do not take credit for my work, I have no problem and think it is great that people would actually place my work on their sites/boards, etc. But then again, that's me.

I understand your frustrations, and I will delete that poem, not because you asked, but because I do not want poetry with authors that write beautifully, but act nothing like their actually writings. Practice what you preach.

Sincerely,
Michelle Curiel




Ron, help me with this please!?
Ron
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122 posted 03-05-2001 10:29 PM       View Profile for Ron   Email Ron   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ron's Home Page   View IP for Ron

I can give it a shot, Rebecca. But I need the URL first.
WhtDove
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123 posted 03-05-2001 10:53 PM       View Profile for WhtDove   Email WhtDove   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WhtDove's Home Page   View IP for WhtDove

Ron I've been searching for it. I can't seem to find it anywhere. It was a poetry board, I thought I had posted the url in here somewhere, and went back to look and I don't see it. I know it had latina barbie in it.

Soon as I can find it, I'll put it here. Thanks Ron!
Denise
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124 posted 03-05-2001 11:16 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

I did an exhaustive search for my poems by name and first line, etc...nothing...I'm feeling kind of left out... Doesn't anybody like my stuff? Sandra, could you use another poem on your site? I'd be honored! Really. I think that would be cool!
 
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