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Ryan
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0 posted 11-17-2000 02:37 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

You know, I was just sitting here, and I realized I don't live in a time zone anymore.  I've been awake at odd hours of the night in the last few months more times than I can remember in my whole life.  This is just amazing to me.  It's like an epiphany.  An amazing epiphany.  I don't need timezones.  How can you be jetlagged from changing timezones when staying up till 1:30 (the time it is now, in my timezone) is becoming the norm?  So come on people, break the grip timezones hold on you.  Overcome them, revolt, and see what liberties are brought to you when you have thrown off the shackles of timezones.  Oh yeah.

Ryan

(wow, from an epiphany to a revolutionary speech...crazy)


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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1 posted 11-17-2000 02:59 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Only 1.30am?

Sheesh...wow...that's early!!!
Rotf...

I will have more to say believe me...

see ya in a bit!

K


The wind shifts like this:
Like a human without illusions...
This is how the wind shifts:
Like a human, heavy and heavy,
Who does not care.

W.S
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2 posted 11-17-2000 03:06 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Lol.  I'll be here.  2:00 am now.  The minutes slowly slide by.  I sure wish I didn't have class at 8:30 tomorrow.  I've realized that early classes really suck and that I'm not a morning person.  I figured that out when I almost slept through an 11:30 class.  I never knew I could get dressed and run to class in 7 minutes.  Amazing the things I learn in this crazy place called college.  I know I've learned some other stuff, but that's the only thing that I can think of right now.  Hmmm, and now that I think about it, it's probably one of the most useful things I'll learn here.  I mean, now I know that I can get dressed and where I need to be in sub 7 mintues (if the place I need to be isn't that far).  Oh the wonders of education.  Okay, back to the project that is keeping me awake.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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3 posted 11-17-2000 03:39 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Oh, look, it's 2:30 now.  I just finished writing a long email, and then I decided not to send it.  Doesn't that demonstrate the spontenaity and relative inpermanence of our life?  I mean, that entire email is lost to me now, forever, b/c I chose to not send it.  This thread, in effect, is now appearing to be an attempt to permanize (new word) my thoughts for tonight.  Anyone else who is reading this and wants to permanize their thoughts can feel free to join me.  I am open to all thoughts.  Odd how I'm using such an impermanent form of medium to try to permanize my thoughts.  But, this is much more permanent than keeping them in my head.  Okay, I've said permanent too many times for now.  I bet I'll be back in 30 more minutes, at 3:00 am, cst.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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4 posted 11-17-2000 04:06 AM       View Profile for Ron   Email Ron   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ron's Home Page   View IP for Ron

quote:
I've realized that early classes really suck and that I'm not a morning person.


See, Ryan, you're still stuck in a time zone - albeit an inconvenient one when you have to deal with the rest of the world. There are a lot of night owls in the world, and probably a disproportionate percentage posting here.  

You will truly have freed yourself from the clock when you can be a morning person one week and a night owl the next, eating when you get hungry and sleeping when you get tired, neither of which will be based on a 24 hour rhythm. Today you'll be going to bed at 3 a.m., while next week you'll be rising at that hour (as I just did). And the world will see you as a very strange person.  
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5 posted 11-17-2000 04:24 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

You're right.  College is forcing a time zone upon me.  It's not my fault.  I swear, I have to blame it on someone else.  *grins*  I'm thinking it will be easier to not sleep tonight and then go to class than to sleep for 4 hours and try to wake up before class.  Hmmm, I guess it depends on how entertained I can keep myself for the next four hours.  Only 4 hours.  I wonder why sometimes I type 4 and other times I type four.  It's kind of odd.  I would think it has to do with laziness, but I type it both ways so close to each other.  Is laziness that temporary of a thing.  It seems that everything in life is so very fleeting.  It all changes from minute to minute, second to second.  Nothing is ever the same.  Is moment is there to be captured, but there are so many, how can you capture them all.  You put the effort into getting one, and a million others have passed you bye.  Speaking of moments, can there be more than one moment in a moment.  That sounds confusing but it's because I mean different things by the two moments and I just can't think of two different words that would work.  I mean, in a "moment," if you look at one thing, there is a moment and if you look at another, there is another moment.  It seems that a moment doesn't even involve time at all.  Or maybe it does involve time, it just doesn't depend on time.  That sounds better.  This seems like it should be in philosophy instead of here, but that's okay.  Here is where I am right now, so here is where it will go.  Okay, it's 3:20 am, cst right now.  I wonder how much longer I'll go.  See ya in a bit.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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6 posted 11-17-2000 04:26 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Okay, I'm back quicker than I intended.  I just realized that I used the exact same closing line that Severn used in her response up above.  This is odd because I didn't even mean to.  It's a subconscious sort of thing, which is kind of cool.  Well, that's food for thought.  Mmm, food.  Okay, I'm gone for now.  I'm sure this won't be the last of me for tonight though.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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7 posted 11-17-2000 05:01 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Very nearly 4am cst, by my watch.  And this is the end my friends, the end.  (weird scenes from inside the gold mine).  Long live the Doors.  But anyway, yes, this is the end.  I have decided that a little sleep is better than no sleep, especially b/c I have run out of things to keep me occupied.  But, if anyone out there wishes to keep this thread constantly active throughout the night, please, do.  I would be very happy if I woke up tomorrow morning and someone had added their late night (or whatever time of day it is for you) thoughts to this.  Call this a pleading or what have you.  (from a revolutionary speech in the beginning to a pleading...oh, the path that so many rebels walk).  Good night everyone.  Perhaps we shall all meet again in a land without timezones.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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8 posted 11-17-2000 05:52 AM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

I'm wondering right now why the hell I'm awake. Yeah, it may be 6ish on the East Coast, but it's 4ish here in Arizona. I was woken up at 2ish by the TV 3 rooms down. My ladyfriend has a son who works a graveyard shift at a donut shop, and I know he turned that sucker on. Reckon he didn't know how loud it was with the lack of ambient sound.

Now, loud, I can deal with loud, like a fan or a blower or something like that. But the modulated speech patterns of a news rebroadcast, well, that is something different. So here I am, after listening to a recap of the evening's news toppers reaired in the armpit of the night, pondering the existential question: why am I here, and where's my coffee?!

[This message has been edited by Alicat (edited 11-17-2000).]
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9 posted 11-17-2000 06:46 AM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

Ryan - You've got class in two hours... You'd better make it... You too Ron... and Persnikitty..... uh... whatever...

COFFEE all around.....

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10 posted 11-17-2000 06:59 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Hmmmmmmmmm...well it's now 12.15am in my little timezone...early early...

Revolutionary speech? But how is it revolutionary? I think it is like more an exhortation for reform...After all - timezones would still exist should we choose not to abide by them...so we would merely be remoulding an existing system...

But I'm all for it - timezone reform is on!

Hehe...8.30am hey? My earliest class this year was...ummmm...oh yeah - 9am but I kind of missed it sometimes...hmmm. We won't go there. (Truly, I am committed...but yes - early morning classes really suck...they should be banned, in recognition of student culture.)

I am glad to discover I am not the only one who makes up words in the middle of the night - that is a comfort...my favourite to date is 'pervex' which is a cross between being perplexed and vexed...I intend to have it in a dictionary by 2005. Possibly earlier...however, it might prove difficult...I suppose extortion and blackmail might be a good starting point. Why is the net an impermanent medium to permanize your thoughts? Personally, I think it is quite permanent...I mean - you could come back and reread them many a time. If they were merely spoken - well, the end...even if Passions disappeared or whatever they'd still be as permanent as possible - cause there are no guarantees for anything that is so-called 'permanent'.

Four and 4? Six and 6? Seven and 7? Hmmmmm...because we need variation! That's why...how boring writing things the same all the time if there exists an alternate option. Oh and you didn't write exactly what I said - cause you forgot the !     - too many !'s can be annoying I reckon...shrug, If you do too many you lose the effect and sometimes you can sound over-eager. Sheesh...I've thought that for ages...hehe...

Ali, true to your word you are a light sleeper yes? Smile...at least you get to see the world from all perspectives hey?

I realised I haven't been awake at 5am often enough. How many of us get to appreciate 5 am? Somehow it feels wrong to be awake then - four am is ok, but definitely not 5. Weird.

Shrug...unless you work then or something. I want to work at 5 at least once so I get to appreciate it...omg - I am timezone bound! Aaak!

Capturing moments - that interests me. In order to capture one - doesn't that suggest retention of it? A memory, in order to know you have and did capture it...impossible then - to hold them all. However, how long is a moment? Could someone define moment? I don't think it is possible to.

  
quote:
It seems that a moment doesn't even involve time at all.  Or maybe it does involve time, it just doesn't depend on time.


I like that.

It's entirely subjective. We define our own moments.

Right...that's it for now...off to do something before it hits 5am...lol

  K




The wind shifts like this:
Like a human without illusions...
This is how the wind shifts:
Like a human, heavy and heavy,
Who does not care.

W.S




[This message has been edited by Severn (edited 11-17-2000).]
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11 posted 11-17-2000 12:00 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

Kamla - 9AM is NOT early in the morning...  

Ryan - Sleep when you sleep, wake when you wake. In my op, the world will eventually come around. Sleep is over-rated anyway - you'll get enough when you're dead.  

Chris
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12 posted 11-17-2000 06:26 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Chris Chris Chris...now look...

9am may not be early - but getting UP in time for it is...

you understand the definition of commuting...so a little sympathy thankyou...tch - I don't know...~grumble splutter~

K

Oh the insanity...the tragedy...



[This message has been edited by Severn (edited 11-17-2000).]
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13 posted 11-17-2000 09:07 PM       View Profile for PhaerieChild   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for PhaerieChild

Ryan, You keep this up and you'll end up perma-toast.

How can you save me?
When the dark comes right in and takes me,
from my front walk and into bed,
where it kisses my face and eats my head. Shivaree
Ryan
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14 posted 11-18-2000 12:15 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Mmmmm, toast.  Toast sounds really good right now.  But all I have to eat is popcorn (which sound gross right now).  Well, guess what, it's that time again!!  Actually, it's only a little after 11pm here, which is really early, but oddly enough, it feels about like 3am did yesterday.  Isn't it kind of odd how time can be so subjective?  I mean, does it really matter what time it is?  If I'm tired, I should sleep without worrying about society looking down on me because I don't sleep during the "accepted time periods."  Really, I should sleep whenever I want.  But that's not my main problem right now.  I think my main problem would be the fact that I have no food to eat, and I've spent the last half an hour discussing how yummy pancakes and waffles are with a friend from home.  I really can't believe there is no International House of Pancakes or Waffle House here.  For anyone who doesn't know, International House of Pancakes (better known as IHOP) and Waffle House are two incredible 24 hour restaurants that always serve breakfast.  It seems unfair that they wouldn't put restaurants as wonderful as these two in a college town.  Oh, the humanity of it.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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15 posted 11-18-2000 12:33 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

11:30.  I'm taking my own advice now and going to sleep.  So, this ends the short chronicle of night two.  Wow, I still think it's funny that I'm using the internet to make fleeting thoughts permanent.  What if the server blows up (sorry, not trying to jinx anything Ron.  *grins*)?  Paper and pencil seems more permanent.  Have I just become to lazy to write on paper with pencil?  Is typing to easy?  Am I asking questions when I should be enjoying the wonders of sleep?  I just don't know.  Okay, bubye everybody.  Sleep is beckoning.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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16 posted 11-18-2000 12:48 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

What would you do if there was a fire...?  

K
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17 posted 11-18-2000 12:57 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

*grins*  Pick up all the paper I'd written my thoughts on (however much that was) and run around screaming like a lunatic.  But don't joke about fires.  One morning this week (I can't remember which), the fire alarms went off in our dorm at 5:30 in the morning.  So, I'm standing in the 20 degree weather in shorts and a t-shirt for 30 mintues while 30 firemen search the whole building for what ends up to be a small electrical fire in one room.  Oh, it was awful.  Like I said before, oh the humanity of it all.  *grins*

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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18 posted 11-18-2000 03:22 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

What if you couldn't find some of your paper? What if your imaginary dog ate some of it? What if a friend/significant other/parent/some stranger off the street/alien threw some of it away?

Hard to lose or throw away a computer isn't it?

HEH HEH

K

(Hey - that fire nearly made you experience 5am..! Nearly...oh well - maybe next time..)


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19 posted 11-19-2000 01:29 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Well, I would have three carbon copies of each piece of paper, all hand written, and all quadruple checked for errors.  Two of these copies would be kept in open places where those who wish to quash my archival intentions will easily find them.  These will be the "decoy" copies.  The third set of copies will be kept in a secret location known by only myself.  The originals will be hidden in a lockbox.  The lockbox will have one key, and the key will be hidden in a small magnetic box under the bumper of my brother's 1988 Dodge Aries (aka Funkmobile).  These preparations and precautions will ensure that my papers are never destroyed.  They will last into the year 2119 and beyond.  Oh yes, they will.  And if anyone is wondering, yes, I did watch the Saturday Night Live presidential debate parodies.

Ryan

Oh, yeah, it's 12:30 cst.


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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20 posted 11-19-2000 06:00 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Hmmmmmm...

seems like a lot of effort to go to...parody or no..

hmmm

perhaps 'type...save...copy to disk...send file to close friend's computer'

might do the job.  

Trying to think of anything remotely interesting to say...nothing at all up stairs right now...

sad thing that...

K

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21 posted 11-19-2000 11:29 AM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

Imagine tossing and turning until 5:30 and being at school at 7:00!

But now, I'm on vacation. A whole week with nothing to do except sit around here and bug all of you!!!! Oh joy.  
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22 posted 11-20-2000 03:45 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

It's 2:30 cst here and I'm bouncing off of walls.  I haven't had this much energy this late in sooooo long.  Too bad my roommate wants to sleep.  But that's okay.  Because I'm full of energy.  It's funny how in high school I would always try to be in bed before 11 when I had school the next day.  I always needed lots of sleep.  Now, I making a habit of staying up late.  I just yawned.  I'm tired but not tired.  It's one of those dual things where you can have both at once.  I'm tired, but I'm not.  It's weird.  I can't think of other examples right now, but I'm sure some exist.

My goal with this post is to make it the most constantly active post on all the forums.  There will always be someone adding on to it at least once a day.  Hopefully.  Of course, it may just end up being me typing pointless stuff all the time and bantering with myself.  I hope not.  Hopefully somebody else will join me in my quest.  Someone, anyone.  Please?  I just realized this is the first multi-paragraph post I've made in this thread.  Normally I don't use paragraphs when I make posts.  Something is different about this post.  Something is oddly different.  I wonder, what.  Wonderwall. I said baby, you're gonna be the one that saves me.  And after all, you're my wonderwall.  Yeah, yeah.  Oasis is the greatest British band since the Beatles.  But not really.  I actually would say Pink Floyd is better than both, but I've yet to find someone else who shares this opinion.  Maybe this post will change that.  Maybe.  Imagine if it did.  Imagine all the people.  See, I even know Beatles songs, so it's not like I'm being unfair or anything.  If I'd never heard a single Beatles song, then it would be a different story.

Wow, this is definitely the longest post I've put on this thread.  I also think it's the most pointless one.  But maybe that's the point.  It's kinda like nothing.  Say you are making a bet on a football game and you bet nothing.  You are still betting something.  You bet nothing.  Nothing is something.  0 = 1.  0 = nothing = something = 1.  Wow, look what I proved.  Anyone want to spend the three seconds necessary to discredit this proof?  Arguments are fun, but they are hard to extract.  For example, I have to extract an argument from Marx and Engels' "Communist Manifesto" for a philosophy class.  I can't even find the premises.  What fun this will be.  What fun indeed.

Maybe, by the time I finish this post, it will be three am.  I doubt it though.  There is a song by a Canadian band (Our Lady Peace) called 4am.  It's good.  I don't think I'll make it to 4am today though.  No reason.  Last time I was awake at 5am was last New Years Eve/Day when I slept over with a bunch of friends and we stayed awake until 6 or something.  In the quiet morning after everyone fell asleep, I could hear the house talking.  Have you ever heard a house talk?  It's like an aged, wise, weary spirit that is ready to lay down and slumber eternally.  It is ancient and oblivious to time.  It reminds me of The King of the Mountains from the NBC miniseries "Merlin."  James Earl Jones did the voice.  James Earl Jones has an awesome voice.  An awesome voice indeed.  He has got to be the greatest actor ever, simply because of his voice.  It has a power others can only dream about.

Yeah, well, I think this is enough pointless ramblings.  So, now, a toast to the ever-continuing nature of this post.  Bubye.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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23 posted 11-20-2000 12:08 PM       View Profile for Jannel   Email Jannel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jannel

i must say that colleges have a sprt of warped time zone. i go home, there's nothing to do after 10pm, i'm here there's nothing to do BEFORE 10pm. *sigh* but i must say that i enjoy your ramblings.

If you can feel that staying human is worthwhile, even when it can't have any result whatever, you've beaten them.
-1984

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24 posted 11-20-2000 02:33 PM       View Profile for Poertree   Email Poertree   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poertree

Methinks LK has found someone of a similar calibre to argue with......

HALLELUJAH


                       
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