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Ryan
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25 posted 11-21-2000 02:38 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Hello.  Tonight will have to be a quick one b/c I'm quite tired.  Just wanted to drop in and sing a little song.  Happy birthday day to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday dear Ryan, happy birthday to me.  I'd been planning on waiting until midnight and then running up and down the dorm halls ranting and screaming like a lunatic in celebration, but instead, I fell alseep on my bed watching football.  Kind of a whimper where there should've been a bang.  Did you know that short naps are better at making you more tired than at helping you wake up.  It's the 100 percent truth.  Truthfully.  That's why I'm going to go sleep right now.  And then I am going to try and wake up for my 1:30 class.  I think I should manage that.  Hopefully.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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26 posted 11-22-2000 01:03 AM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

Happy Birthday!! Well, I guess yesterday was your birthday... oh well!

Good luck in your "quest". I'll help out whenever I can!  
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27 posted 11-22-2000 03:15 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Ah the feeling of getting old...

I know it well K says sagely.

K
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28 posted 11-22-2000 03:28 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Setting:  A small, cluttered basement.  Music in the background, "Message in a Bottle" by The Police.  Neon lights eliminate the presence of night and day.  A regular guy sits in front of a small computer screen.  2:13 am shows in the lower left corner.

*Ryan looks around with the aged, world-wearied gaze that comes with one who has grown older by the year*

- Awww man, no one says it better than the Police.  Remember that, and that's what'll get you through the world.  Take some advice from one who knows.


*grins*

But anyway, yeah, I hate it when nothing comes to mind to say.  No fun, no fun at all.  But I'm not really tired, so I'll stick around for awhile, seeing what happens.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.
óJack Kerouac

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29 posted 11-22-2000 12:29 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

its 1:30 am in my time zone now and i should be in bed hours ago...im too tired to read and focus on what you have to say but will be back tomorrow
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30 posted 11-22-2000 08:29 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

hi there, interesting ramblings here, Ryan..not pointless at all cos you made a fellow mate smile and it cant be all that pointless when you make someone amused, right....

why do i keep to timezones?cos i need my beauty sleep, man....i remember once when i didnt sleep for the whole night and the next day i was literally staggering when i walked....my friends were watching out for me, scared that i would fall and make a big time fool of myself.....

why i sleep at night?cos everyone else does and if i sleep in the morning or afternoon, there will be no one for me to talk to when i am awake at night...my humanity requires me to keep close contact with humanity itself...and always staring at the computer screen in the wee hours of the morning isnt going to work in the long run....hmmmm

im tired but im not tired.....i couldnt agree less with you

heres one i often use:
im worried that im not worrying....(used rather often when examination periods approach, leaving everyone else but me stressed out)

YA!keep this thread going, will you
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31 posted 11-22-2000 08:31 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

ahhhh, the embarrassment of it all...my computer just freaked out on me and i kept clicking and clicking and hence the multiple posts....

never mind, lets continue my ramblings, shall we?

pen and paper is good..cos i suffer from computer phobia and bad things always happen to me when i use the computer(such as mulitple posts)...i will be apprehensive using the computer wary of viruses and jams and break downs and what have you

[This message has been edited by kaile (edited 11-22-2000).]
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32 posted 11-22-2000 08:33 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

what will i say now?

hmmmm, life is made up of moments...perhaps instead of being choosy and deciding which moment would be best to secure, its better to throw caution to the wind, go with the flow and just experience....

my point is, you might have wasted some moments when you typed about your ramblings about moments....and a moment, inferior as it may be, is always better than no moment to treasure at all

i might have misinterpreted what you have said but im too lazy to click on the review link and double-check for myself..LOL

[This message has been edited by kaile (edited 11-22-2000).]
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33 posted 11-22-2000 08:37 PM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

looking back i think i misunderstood what you mean by moments...

anyway, why i sometimes type 4 and other times i type four?

sometimes im in a hurry and i will hence write shorthand....hence 4 seems more convenient..

other times, when i have time to spare, the perfectionist in me wants to see all letters before me, foreign symbols like numbers are minimised if possible...

now that i have wasted so much of your time, provide feedback, will you

[This message has been edited by kaile (edited 11-22-2000).]
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34 posted 11-23-2000 12:01 AM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

What? Ryan is your birthday the 22nd?! Let me know for sure and I'll add you to my ever-growing list!

Happy Birthday!

Elizabeth  
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35 posted 11-23-2000 11:31 AM       View Profile for kaile   Email kaile   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for kaile

i rambled on and on for four posts and i missed the most important thing!!shame, shame on me, boy

happy belated birthday, Ryan!!
hope it was memorable

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36 posted 11-24-2000 02:16 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Well let me tell you..........don't let the time screw you over cuz i didn't get any sleep for 2 days and finally when i was able to go to bed.........i did.
right?
right!
Good?
NO WAY!
i slept through Thanksgiving!!!!!!!



I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust.

I hate your socks. I'd like to burn them!

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37 posted 11-29-2000 12:14 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

And you guys thought I'd let this post die.  Nahh, would never do that.  But 5 days off of school back home with friends and lots of turkey to eat, well that all had number one priority.  So, this is just a notice to all those who were cheering b/c this thread had finally died.  I'm baaack.  Mwahahahaha.  *grins*

Anybody ever tried to picture a wandering emu in their minds?  It comes across as rather lonely to me.  Don't know why, but maybe because it's wandering.  A wandering lifestyle must be lonely.  Even though you always meet new people and see new places, at the end of the day, it's always back on the road, on your own again.  Must be very lonely.  Almost could be seen as tragic in away.  The great "American" dream (maybe world, but then again, American is probably even too broad so how about this:  my great dream) maybe isn't all that great after all.  But who knows.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you.
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38 posted 11-29-2000 12:16 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

A song:

wandering emus in the cold
but get lonely by themselves
walking on the road

wandering emus by themselves
wandering emus in the cold

walking down the road
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39 posted 11-29-2000 12:22 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

So, I just looked up emu for fun in the dictionary.  Boy am I glad I did.  I thought it was some relative of the caribou or moose.  Well, suffice to say, I was wrong.  It's actually a large, flightless bird.  Which gives credit to a description of it as wandering.  I also think it proves that my mental picture is a sad one, and now, not just b/c the emu is wandering.  I would be sad if I was a bird that couldn't fly.  It's a tragic tale.  The wandering emus, they are lonely things.

Ryan


I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you.
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40 posted 11-29-2000 05:00 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Emus, Ryan, are one of the most absurb looking birds on earth...

they really are...

anyway - why is a flightless bird tragic? They don't know they 'should' be able to fly...

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41 posted 11-29-2000 10:49 AM       View Profile for Poertree   Email Poertree   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poertree

quote:
absurb


....an emu got your pen LK?

              
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42 posted 11-29-2000 07:05 PM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Actually, we've talked about something like that in my philosophy class.  It's an interesting question, and I'm forced to admit that I'm not sure what the answer is.  Does an emu know it's not supposed to fly?  Maybe it sees all those other birds and sees that they fly and wonders why it shouldn't, but then again, maybe it doesn't even know it is a bird like they are.  But then again, most tragic heroes are tragic simply b/c they don't recognize their flaw.  Though I personally find it more tragic when a character can recognize his flaw, yet still can't do anything about it.

Another thing I've been thinking.  Sometimes I'll walk along the sidewalk on windy fall days, and leaves will be blowing by.  So, I'll step on them, so they will not be blown further from where they came from.  But, then I wondered, if I was a leaf (yes, a special thinking leaf that can live after it falls off of the branch...scary, huh?  *grins*), would I want to be stomped, so I'd never be blown further from home, or I would I rather take a chance and hope that someday the winds changed and I'd blow right back home again.  I try to avoid stepping on leaves nowadays.

Ryan


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43 posted 11-30-2000 06:50 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Firstly - Philip...

trust you to nag me about ONE little word...pah..I'll leave it there for posterity - so all the world can see how petty you are...

heh  


Hmm....well...birds.
I find it amusing, personally, how people lament for a bird's wings. 'Oh, I want to come back as a bird' etc...

Why?

Let's see...how wonderful - an existence based around never-ceasing hunger. A short lifespan...if you leave home a bit early, you're screwed...no going back to mummy in the nest if things get hard in the outside world. (Being flightless might just have it's advantages in that scenario). Potential victims of four-footed creatures with an intent to kill...and no mercy given.

Yeah - how cool..wish I was a bird.

Naturally the desire only stems for the want of something humans can never hope to have naturally...so we covet in greed the natural state of something else - ignoring of course all the pitfalls...

typical hey?

Frankly I don't think birds know they are birds at all. They just are.

Therefore it negates any connection to a hero...heroes have purpose. Emus sadly..don't.

They just are.

quote:
Though I personally find it more tragic when a character can recognize his flaw, yet still can't do anything about it


I agree.

Now - Leaves.

But...but...but

how do you KNOW they go no further from their home tree?

(Er..I have a confession - I see plastic bags being blown and things...and wonder if - assuming they had a conscience - they are happy going adventuring, or if they would prefer to fulfil their intended purpose...the rebel in me says the former...lollol)

Just because they are stomped on doesn't mean they can't travel.

And why should a leaf want to return home? It is like a baby bird once fallen...it can't live with its siblings anymore...wouldn't it be sorrowful to know that home was completely inaccessible?

Stepping on a fallen leaf...and having it stick on your shoe could be the best thing that happened to it...

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44 posted 11-30-2000 11:03 AM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Howdy ya'll. This here is your friendly Alley moderator type person. Ryan, just wanted to let ya know, thank ya fer ranting. That's what this place if for, dontchaknow. I did have an interesting mental image while perusing this thread. With the following, I shall elaborate:

Through dank city mist, in the armpit of night, a lone stragler meanders across slick asphalt trapped 'twixt stone monoliths. He pauses, scans the vacant street, licks his chapped lips and grins impishly. He turns into an alley, dividing high-rise flats close by the elevated rail. Clambering upon a trash bin, he stands tall, glazed eyes scanning the dark windows above.
"I can't sleep. Let me tell you all about it!", he shouts into the night, and proceeds to tell the incumbent sleepers why they are so fortunate. Presently, light blooms behind slotted shutters, windows are thrown open, and dish water cascades down.
"Keep it down down there....I'm trying to sleep!"
He waggles his finger and dimples quite boyishly, berating them for wasting their precious life time, quoting actual study figures, expounding upon the premise of what his belly is hankering for.
Then, from somewhere secreted in his noisome coat, he produces a tennis ball, and bounces it against the opposite wall, still standing upon the rubbish bin. Pak-pa pak-pa pak-pa, in delicious counterpoint to his tirade, shouting to the heavens the benevolence of toast, and isn't it a pity that they just don't make toast like they used to, back in the day.


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45 posted 12-01-2000 01:59 AM       View Profile for Ryan   Email Ryan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ryan

Ali -- That's a great picture.  A wondrous prophet of the city night, spreading his words to everyone who will listen, and a few who won't.  I can see it too.  A warm, quiet, overcast night somewhere in suburban American, 3am in the morning.  Surburban America is always deserted at 3am in the morning.  Trust me.  Standing in the middle of a cul-de-sac, this prophet of the night sings his song.  A dog barks in the distance, and a few lights flash on.  Then everything is quiet again, and the cul-de-sac is empty.

I remember one time, I was out at about 3 am with some friends, driving another one home.  There was no one on the road, no one for the entire 20-30 minutes we were driving.  And then it began to rain for a few moments.  The world was empty and quiet, so quiet we couldn't say a word.  And then there was the rain, and it's quiet pitter-patter was audible in the silence.  I love those quiet suburban nights when no one else is out.  The world seems fresh and new, innocent.

Kamla, did I say you could contradict all my comments?  I'm not allowed to be questioned.  *grins*  Sheesh, trying to make me defend my statements, what's up with that?  *grins some more*

"Therefore it negates any connection to a hero...heroes have purpose. Emus sadly..don't"

Maybe that's the most tragic, sad thing about them.  Maybe.


I sure wish it would snow here.  I remember (it has become like a legend or a myth to me) once, many years ago, the last time it really snowed.  I haven't seen a good snow in such a long time, I'm afraid it doesn't exist anymore.  I don't remember the last time the old sleds in our garage touched snow.  It's like a long gone friend who you promised to keep in touch with, but sadly, life made you break the promise.  Maybe it'll snow this year.  That would be nice, a white Christmas.

Ryan


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46 posted 12-02-2000 12:50 AM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

This is the thread that never ends...  


I'm going to bring back up the question of the emu. Forgive me if I sound real stupid, but I'm on cough mediciene, and it's 12:42 am. Maybe the emu does see all the other birds flying and longs to join them, but then it sees it's fellow emus and is content. On the other hand, it may see how stupid his fellow spicies looks, and he may long to soar above the rest. Are you guys catching what I'm trying to say? When you realize what you and your fellow spicies are, you do one of three things. You may be content, you may be dissatisfied and do nothing about it, or you try to do something about it. Gosh, I'm getting really tired now! I guess I'd better shut up while I'm ahead!

"Where there is great love there are always miracles" -Cather
"Love heals everything, and love is all there is"- Zukav


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47 posted 12-02-2000 06:11 PM       View Profile for fractal007   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for fractal007

LOL< you call 0130 late???  I stay up till about 0230 each night, reading.
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48 posted 12-02-2000 11:02 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Ah - but how boring it would be to have everyone agree with you all the time...or not challenge you to expand your thinking...I mean, hell - you got me thinking on the leaf thing now...incessantly!

Grrrrr...

Hmmm...did I just contradict your statement about me contradicting you?

Heh.

K

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49 posted 12-12-2000 06:42 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Hmm...I have been reviewing 'old' poetry - ie, stuff that wasn't written last month and came across a poem I wrote in January.

Tis about leaves, and it seemed most appropriate to the conversation about the leaving (npi) home aspect...

Risk


Torn
       leaves
shudder in winds

frightened to advance
       to
pulp

it is safer
       to feel fragile
on a tree known
       since birth

than wilt fitfully
       alone
in the mud


Of course it's all metaphoric and whatnot...but remove that and there you go:

Leaves.

K
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