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Here's a little topic I'm sure will get tons of debate and comments on.... ( Which is good- I'd enjoy hearing some opinions on the matter.)

Internet Love.

Quite the controversial subject.
So how about it folks? Is it a hoax, or could 2 people randomly IM eachother and find instant love?
Perhaps some of you may have even experienced this first hand.

As for me...I personally have not experienced internet love. Yes, I believe the internet is a great tool in meeting new people and getting to know the person in ways never imagined, however, the face-to-face contact with the person and the interactions between the 2 people is important in the "love" area. So- I'm going to have to side with it being a hoax.

Anyone else agree?
Disagree?




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1 posted 04-16-2001 04:19 AM       View Profile for helen smith   Email helen smith   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for helen smith

Spice..there is no explanation..it is  real ..    it is an addiction.. I know
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2 posted 04-16-2001 09:37 AM       View Profile for Acies   Email Acies   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Acies

There is way too many variables involved in this.  

1. they say its true and better cause couples fall in love with each others personality.

downside --- are both individuals really showing their true self.  the internet is so diverse that people can easily create different characters.  

well, i'll add more next time

"So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this give life to thee."  W.S.

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3 posted 04-16-2001 10:35 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

My son and his wife met in a chat room almost four years ago. They've been married for three years (without one fight!) and are expecting a baby in August. So it can happen, but.....they met right away so it didn't get dragged out.

I think if the person you 'fall for' doesn't agree to meet you after a month or so, then become wary. If there's a problem with finances, then at least ask for a phone number and talk to each other.
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4 posted 04-16-2001 07:19 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

I met a girl on the internet when I was 15 and she was 12. I have been talking to her for the past 3yrs and she's managed to become my one true friend in this world. After a while  I fell in love with her and she fell in love with me. We met on march 28th and things worked out magically. I will be attending a university 2 hours from her location and we plan on starting  something out. Yes it can happen because it did, and I didn't meet her right away.
I met her 3 YEARS later.

Oh and random info....she lives in Alabama and I live in Puerto Rico....so the distance is amazingly far, but not for long.  

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5 posted 04-16-2001 09:09 PM       View Profile for Fading Away   Email Fading Away   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Fading Away

Aww.. that's so great, Javi!  I'm happy for you  

As for internet love, I don't think that anything else needs to be said.  Yes, it is real, and yes, it can happen to anyone.

--Marie

subconsciously, i think i can eat so much to make my stomach hurt, instead of my heart.

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6 posted 04-17-2001 07:02 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

Why yes... I know several people who found it...

quite the experience I'm sure...

All obscurity starts with a danger:
Your dangers are many. I
Cannot look much but your form suffers
Some strange injury
Sylvia Plath

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7 posted 04-17-2001 02:38 PM       View Profile for Jesse Jaymz   Email Jesse Jaymz   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Jesse Jaymz's Home Page   View IP for Jesse Jaymz

good topic.
it can happen and has for me.  but also like has been said you dont get to know the real person at times.  with me if anything i am more of the real me on here.  cuz on here i dont have to worry about people judging me.  the real me is the one that is in my poetry.  but as for internet love i met a girl off the net awhile ago.  and me and her became best friends.  then things started to get rough here at home so she said why dont you come live with me.  i said sure.  so we set the date for about a month later for her to pick me up.  well from the time she said that to the time she picked me up me and her fell in love.  and it was great.  i lived there for 2 months till some probloms made me come back home.  had some health stuff to take care of.  and i told her i would be back by easter.  we talked on the net everynight till easter.  she was gonna come up.  she cannceled last minute.  i was depressed.  considering i was gonna ask her to marry me that weekend.  so about a month went by and she was gonna come up in may on our 6 month anny.  i had the perfect weekend planed.  taking her to niagra falls and gonna ask her to marry me there.  i wrote her this huge poem asking her too.  well that morning she cancelled.  i was very down.  didnt hear from her all weekend.  not even on our anny.  so i called her the night of our anny and her son (who still loves me to death) answered and i asked wheres mom.  he gave her the phone and i asked her why i havent heard from you.  she said get online we need to talk.  turns out she cheated on me that ngiht.  i was heartbroken.  i gave her the poem that i wrote asking her to marry me and she said that she was confused and needed time.  meanwhile he moved in with her and married her 2 months later.  she lied to me.  hid behind the comp.  it really hurt and still hurts to this day.  so is internet love real??  yes.  and it can be just as painful.  if not more painful.  i dont know if i could trust someone with my heart like that again.  and if i do it will be a very long time     i got to go...

All I feel is hurt and sorrow, praying it'll all be gone by tomorrow but as tomorrow rolls around, another tear hits the ground.

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8 posted 04-17-2001 04:35 PM       View Profile for dragonpoe   Email dragonpoe   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for dragonpoe

I agree with it being an addiction, and a sort of high playing fantasy game. But real? As in future expanding real? I don't believe so. It's hard enough to love some one you see and are with everyday, because there are always quirks and stuff that get in the way and just make us human, but over the internet, there aren't those quirks, it's too perfect, too made up. People need touch and eye to eye contact, and though nowadays with those camera things, you can see each other, how do you touch and expand that "love" into physical fulfillment? Besides, there's a lot of wackos out there, but I am not saying that every one is bad. Just a risky game.  But people need people to hold and kiss and get close to in order to really experience love. But infatuation, and fantasy bliss is absolutely out there over the great interactive waves of technology.

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9 posted 04-17-2001 04:56 PM       View Profile for Spice   Email Spice   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Spice's Home Page   View IP for Spice

Wow. Thanks for the responses.
  
Jesse Jaymz- Thats a horrible story. I'm terribly sorry.

And Dopey_Dope- you met her? By the tone of your message I'm assuming things worked out between you two? Can I ask you this? And you too Jesse Jaymz ( Since you 2 seem to be the only 2 people with actual basis for your opinions and not basing it on a friends etc emotions.) When you and your Internet Love met... what was that like? Completely changing from behind screen to having the person right infront of you...that must have been a hard and an emotional transition.
In the movie " You've got mail." Meg Ryan says that on the net you are more likely to talk alot about nothing then something...Could you still do that face to face? Or was it different?

As for the non believers...Acire-I see your exact point on people not showing their true sides. Thats one of the main things that has me completely skeptical. And dragonpoe- You just backed up my beliefs...Thankgod- I was starting to feel like the only one who doubted the Internet Love concept.
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10 posted 04-18-2001 01:13 AM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

When I met her I was in awe. After 3 years we could finally touch.Finally see eye to eye. Finally be able to be who we were IN PERSON. It was amazing. At first it was nerve wrecking. It lasted for about 5minutes for me. I was real nervous, but compared to her I was calm as a cucumber. It took her a while but she got ok after a bit.
We talked about what we do on the net. Everyting and nothing all rolled up into one long, fun, amazing conversation. We realized that it wasn't just the net, and it wasn't this made up false fantasy that we created to distance ourselves from the real world. It was real, true, and pure to what the real world basis the meaning of love upon. Is love not a mental connection that is so impacting that it overwhealms your mind, body, and soul? Well if that's what it is, then it can happen on the net and I am living proof of it.
I met her, and it was perfect. It was just like it is on the net cept we get to TOUCH.
I'm back in Puerto Rico now so  I'm back into the net thing with her, but this will only go on for another 4 months. Then i'll be forever hers.  

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I have to cast myself with the believers...I have experienced love thru this screen...love that grew with each message...then phone calls...and ended the same way...with a message saying he had been killed in a wreck...the pain I felt was REAL...the tears I cried were REAL...the emptiness I feel is still very much REAL...I think its very much like the real world...there are players everywhere...just as there are lonely vulnerable people...but there are also real live people on the other end of this line...people who for one reason or the other dont meet people in their day to day life...so they turn to this...and the companionship they find here...whether it be in a place like Passions, or a local chat room...
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i think that some in some respects the computer makes it easier for people to hide certain things or cover up things about themselves, but on the other end of the spectrum sometimes talking online makes it easier to be yourself and say things that you might be too shy to say in person.  i think that internet love is certainly possible and just as real as falling in love with someone that you can see on a daily basis.  Jesse, dude, your luck with women has been really tough thus far, i feel for you.  i'm sending lots of love from VA at this very moment    And Javi, i'm really happy for you, your sttory made me smile.  i wish you nothing but the best  

Sometimes, the things that go unsaid are the only things worth hearing.

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13 posted 04-18-2001 04:42 PM       View Profile for inot2B   Email inot2B   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for inot2B

Dopey just one question. Isn't she just a little young to be getting involved with. She's 15 and your 18. Sorry guess it's my mother instinct coming out.
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14 posted 04-18-2001 11:16 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Inot= No worries. I have asked her the same question. She knows where I am coming from. I am one to only like long-term relationships and due to her age it makes me a bit shaky to get involved with her due to her lack of experience with other guys. She hasn't been out there in the world to BE involved with other men, but lemme tell you.....she's been out there long enough to realize that she is in love with me. That (in her opinion) I'm special and like no other she's ever met.
I respect that she feels she could become my girlfriend and not want to be with another.
Your mother instincts are quite correct, and I take that as a form of trying to make ME realize that maybe it's not the right move. I thank you  
But I have delved within this situation from a lot of angles. I have conversed with her about this and everything looks great.
She is 15, about to turn 16, but she is very mature and believe me.....I wouldn't be with a girl otherwise.
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15 posted 04-19-2001 09:11 AM       View Profile for inot2B   Email inot2B   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for inot2B

Ok Dopey I respect your answer. Considering I married at 17 to a 19 year old, and we have been married over 31 years I do know that young love can work.
Good luck to you and your girlfriend.
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I just got online after 3 weeks and your discussion caught my eye straight away, as at this very moment my girlfriend is on her way back to chicago on her way back to Iowa.  It was her first visit here (England) and we have had 24 marvellous days together. We met in a chat room 2 years ago, we chat every night without fail, I have been over to the states to see her a few times and two weeks ago I asked her to be my wife and she agreed, yipeee. I suppose we are very lucky we have never been under any illusions about what we were getting into, meeting for a few weeks every six months, not having alot of the things which many couples take for granted, but these difficulties have made us very strong together and we couldn't possibly comprehend living in a world without each other, so.... yes internet love works, at times you are lonely, frustrated misunderstood angry, all the things that most relationships go through, but theres no maximum mileage for love wether it be 2 or 20,000, there is just a belief in each other.

Regards,
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17 posted 04-21-2001 12:06 AM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

Actually she's not my gf yet......we have a lot of discussing about our lives and a bit of sorting out to do....we have to comprehend the complete picture of all the revolving circumstances around us.
So the title pends.  
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Love has many different meanings. I was one who thought internet Love could not happen. I was wrong.(self promo here) check out my story in Prose. http://piptalk.com/pip/Forum15/HTML/001098.html  Before we had the internet there was pen pals. And from the stories I hear there has been more than 1 love story that came out of that. Falling in Love with the person on the screen it happens. Is it a True and honest Love. YES it is. Yes because it is what that person feels.But I also believe for it to be a complete Love you must be able to interact in real time. To be able to  touch see and smell. To fill your heart completely for must fill all your senses. Love can have no boundries it is only people who decide what their limits shall be.

[This message has been edited by kitkat (edited 04-21-2001).]

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19 posted 04-22-2001 02:44 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

CONGRATULATIONS OLIAS..

that is AWESOME!!!

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I just met a guy a few days ago that I've been talking to for years. But it felt kinda as if I was cheating. You see, He only lives about an hour away, and he knows my best friend and my brother, but we met online beforemy friend moved here, and before i got close to my brother...Its was rather odd. He's great, and hes one of the best friends I've ever had. He's even going to my prom, with one of my friends.     I don't think love wil ever come of it, but he's a great guy, and a wonderful friend.

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21 posted 05-06-2001 03:45 AM       View Profile for Spice   Email Spice   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Spice's Home Page   View IP for Spice

OOPS! Forgot about this post- BUT!
Thanks everyone for all the replies!
Although- I didn't think the topic would be so one-sided. I thought SURELY there would be more than 2-3 non believers in the 20 people that replied..........oh well...shows what I know- right?
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I am not a non-believer either, but I have seen it from the other side. An internet attraction can be a terrible thing, especially if one or both of them are already involved with someone else. I don't want to go into my story now. I just want to say to all those who are looking for love this way, "Just be careful that the one of your dreams is everything they say they are. You may not find out until it's too late"

Dee

I wish you every happiness and may you always have the best of the good things in life. a brand

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Internet Love is for the birds.

Christopher

*tweet-tweet*
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it can happen....
but meeting, phone calls and regular communication are vital and also trust. but if two people feel the love it can work but sooner or later it has to leave the confines of the net and become part of the real world.

"you are what you own in this land, you can be king and it all depends on the view and what you can see"  Whipping boy

 
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