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Skyfyre Senior Member
since 1999-08-15
Posts 1906Sitting in Michael's Lap 
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Um ... since this is a "meeting place for all members" (translation: more than one member), wouldn't the correct term be Members' Lounge...?" hehe *loves being difficult* Linda |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
I agree. Nothing worse than a MEMBER lounging....  |
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Nan
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
My school has been putting on a major addition... The first thing they did was to put locks on the new bathrooms that would automatically lock us out if the door shut - so we had to prop them open with chairs when they were unoccupied... Then - they fixed that with new locks, and finally got signs on the doors... Here's what I saw one morning... Mens' - blooper Womens' - blooper If those bloopers weren't bad enough - The male teachers came out of their newly designated bathroom and asked "Why is the 'feminine hygiene' dispenser in our bathroom?" Needless to say, they took the signs down immediately - They got them reprinted - spelled properly... Men's and Women's... and reposted them... On the wrong doors AGAIN!!!!....  [This message has been edited by Nan (edited 02-26-2001).] |
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Acies
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Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
good catch skyfyre "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Now, Nan...when you're in a hurry to 'go' who cares about semantics????? |
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Michael
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California |
But honey, all the members is here... MEMBER'S LOUNGE!!! :P~ Michael |
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DancinQueen
since 2000-07-29
Posts 1092Kokomo,IN,USA |
i would have never noticed that.. ¤Sometimes the hardest thing to get over, is something you never really had¤ |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...  |
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Skyfyre Senior Member
since 1999-08-15
Posts 1906Sitting in Michael's Lap |
I'll have you know, Ron, that I need no help from you to reinforce the appearance of being completely out of my tree, thankyouverymuch!! Thank you for the change, though ... hehe Linda |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Lounge for members? I don't have a member!! Can I borrow yours Ron?? |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
Sharon, now I have no idea what you are talking about... |
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Acies
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
now that is funny  "Lounge for People Who Are Members" "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Rats!! I had some sweet visions of what I'd do when I borrowed a member from Ron. Sigh! Ok..so the name gets longer and longer. Next thing you know it will be named: Lounge for People Who Are Members of The Passions in Poetry Forums And how does it look in 'Today's Topics'? What? You say it's not on the list anymore.. odd..... |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
ROFL...funny...very funny, |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Just thought I'd offer this explanation as a possible way out of this conundrum: "Don't confuse an adjectival label ending in s with the need for a possessive. Sometimes it's not easy to tell which is which. Do you attend a writers' conference or a writers conference? If it's a group of writers attending a conference, you want the plural ending, writers. If the conference actually belongs to the writers, then you'd want the possessive form, writers'. If you can insert another modifer between the -s word and whatever it modifies, you're probably dealing with a possessive. Additional modifiers will also help determine which form to use. Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe threw three touchdown passes. (plural as modifier) The Patriots' [new] quarterback, Drew Bledsoe, threw three touchdown passes. (possessive as modifier]" So, I guess the question is whether we actually own this lounge. Brad |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Maybe it should be called "The Friends of Ron Lounge"??? |
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warmhrt Senior Member
since 1999-12-18
Posts 1563 |
Well...there's the staff lounge, so we'd be the rank and file. How 'bout the Rank and File Lounge, or if ya don't like "lounge"... the Rank and File Room.   Kris  [This message has been edited by warmhrt (edited 02-26-2001).] |
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insect Senior Member
since 2000-04-22
Posts 1014 |
If this is when everyone is going to create a possible new name for this place. How about….The Playroom |
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Colin Senior Member
since 1999-06-05
Posts 596Callington, Cornwall, England |
Perhaps it's time for one of the moderators to step in with an opinion? ok, here goes.... *groan*  Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the streets after them. - Bill Vaughan |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Perhaps it is? Colin, what do you think? Brad |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
Serenity is PRESENT---and sitting up (ahem) fully erect in this lounge for members..  " Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot |
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Nan
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
Um... I've been here in New England for awhile now... Brad, my friend... The Patriots is/are a collective noun... The locker room belonging to the Patriots would certainly be the Patriots' locker room, wouldn't it? I see no way to omit our members' apostrophe here in their very own lounge and still be grammatically correct...  |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Actually, the name could become Interactive Internet Lounge for Passionate Poet Members Who Know How To Find This Place To Begin With.... |
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Acies
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
Can we just talk about Math? "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
quote: And how much flack would I get for ending a forum name with a preposition?  |
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BloomingRose Member Elite
since 2000-08-09
Posts 3092Florida |
Oh what fun! |
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Sven
since 1999-11-23
Posts 14937East Lansing, MI USA |
and I thought that I had a lot of time on my hands!!!  ------------------------------------------------------------- To the world, you may only be one person. But to one person, you may be the world. |
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Michael
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-08-13
Posts 7666California |
I don't know much about grammar and syntax, but I DO know this was wrong: "Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe threw three touchdown passes." Brad, if you're talking Patriots, I'm afraid that would be "... threw three interceptions.." Michael [This message has been edited by Michael (edited 02-27-2001).] |
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Skyfyre Senior Member
since 1999-08-15
Posts 1906Sitting in Michael's Lap |
Oh Ron, you would get much flack, I assure you, but only of the friendliest sort. At which time you would change the name yet again to something else and pretend it never happened, making poor Linda look like she's been smoking poetry or something. *wink* Linda |
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Dopey Dope
Moderator
Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
Why don't you just title this place "Yo!"  I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust. I'm in love with my shadow I admire it daily |
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Acies
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
wrong: "Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe threw three touchdown passes." right: "Patriots' quarterback Drew Bledsoe threw three touchdown passes." "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Nan
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191Cape Cod Massachusetts USA |
Thank you, acire.... |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Who are the Patriots? Who is Drew Bledsoe? What are passes? |
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Acies
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
I think they're a soccer teem lol j/k"So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Colin Senior Member
since 1999-06-05
Posts 596Callington, Cornwall, England |
Pray silence for your moderator! (the other one's out trying to find the coffee bar )The Lounge for People Who Are Members is a lounge for all members and could, therefore, be described as a members' lounge. Every member, however, can help make this lounge a success and a little home away from home by their posts. So.... from that respect, it could also be that member's lounge. See? perfectly clear! Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the streets after them. - Bill Vaughan |
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Brad Member Ascendant
since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705Jejudo, South Korea |
Obviously those examples were not as clear as I'd thought but both are still acceptable depending on what you are doing. The Patriots organization . . . New England Patriots Executive Vice President Jonathan Kraft shared his family's vision for . . . There is no need for an apostrophe because Patriots here is an adjective, a description of the organization or the EVP -- possessiveness is not the issue. In the first example, if one writes Patriots' organization, you miss the whole point of the adjective label in the first place. If taken out of the player/team context, I hope the point becomes clearer. As a result: Patriots quarterback . . . . acceptable The Patriots' quarterback . . . . acceptable The Patriot's quarteback . . . . Might mean Mel Gibson's quarterback As a result, Members Lounge and Members' Lounge are acceptable. Actually, I was really looking for a reason to argue that the orginal Member's Lounge is perfectly acceptable (if not, a lot of people out there are making the same mistake). My thinking was that Member is a type of person, not the individual, and can therefore be rendered singular. The plural in this sense would mean multiple types of members, not multiple individual members. But I haven't found that reasoning yet so for the moment it is purely conjecture. aicre, Never tell me something is wrong or right . I make a living out of correcting people who do that for a living (Korean English Professors).Brad PS The original examples were from a Grammar website by the way (I put the whole thing in quotes, you know)-- I forget which one at the moment but if you want, I'll give you the address. [This message has been edited by Brad (edited 02-28-2001).] |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
I agree with brad totally. there are certainly,,,some people? who should be most discreetly described as "members"! sorry....sigh...*suffering from crowd overdose here* I must however, beg for leniency due to my heightened emotions from the intensity of Carnival coupled with the double/triple/off-the-chart 'whammy' of my hormones going bezerk due to "having my monthly...' IZZAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY??? "let's all hope so..." (serenity puts another clip in the gun.... ) Now...sssh...repeat after me..QUIETLY... "Mardi Gras is officially over..." "Mardi Gras is officially over..." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... HUH? pssst....wake up....gotta go get jazz fest tickets~ ARRRRGGGHHHHH.... [This message has been edited by serenity (edited 02-28-2001).] |
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Alicat Member Elite
since 1999-05-23
Posts 4094Coastal Texas |
Well, I'm kinda glad of the change from Members Lounge. This should end any confusion as to the purpose of this room. It is NOT a place where you become a member, for starters. Now, surely you would think that no one would be that bereft of common sense. Well, I live in Yuma, Arizona, the place that receives a slew of 'snowbirds' (northern visitors), who (though they are able to drive a double-clutch, navigate a convoluted highway system, and manage multiple residences) still find a very simple drivers license form (name, address, phone, proof of identification) complicated, and will, for some odd reason, visit state and governemenal offices the day after a major holiday. Never underestimate human stupidity.  Alicat “It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.” Charles Darwin |
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Sunshine
Administrator
Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
Ron...as much flack as you deserve if you listen to me long enough....I know better.... |
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Dopey Dope
Moderator
Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
*looks at everybody all confused* So we're not naming the room Yo? I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust. I'm in love with my shadow I admire it daily |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Ron, to loosely quote Mr. Churchill, "That is a situation, up with which, we will not put." harharharharha Pete |
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Acies
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
keep quiet Dopes "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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Poet deVine
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Problem solved!!! LOL Leave it to Ron to solve the problem quietly and efficiently. |
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Dopey Dope
Moderator
Member Patricius
since 2000-08-30
Posts 11132San Juan, Puerto Rico |
*sobs due to acire's comment* meanie! I was born myself, raised myself, and will continue to be myself. The world will just have to adjust. I'm in love with my shadow I admire it daily |
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Ron
Administrator
Member Rara Avis
since 1999-05-19
Posts 8669Michigan, US |
Pete, I'm afraid I'm hopelessly conditioned. Unless writing dialog, I studiously avoid ending with a preposition. Just can't help it. But, in spite of Churchill's famous wit, it's rarely that difficult. Or, to paraphrase your paraphrase, "It's a situation easy to tolerate." |
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Acies
Moderator
Member Rara Avis
since 2000-06-07
Posts 7665Twilight Zone |
Ok...Now the room's name is different again "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this give life to thee." W.S. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
Yes, but somehow? "the more things change? The more they stay the same..." |
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WhtDove Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-22
Posts 9245Illinois |
Should I even crawl in here? Speaking of 'mistakes,' and I should have saved it, but didn't. I got an email from someone off the main site. Our email not showing anymore, I got the blurb at the end of the email saying it wasn't showing and that URL's would be taken out as well, to protect all of "passsions" poets. It don't show up like that on the main site though. LOL "Passsions in Poetry" now! LOL |
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