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Sven
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0 posted 02-12-2001 07:42 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

The worst Poetry is _________________________

or comes from ______________________________

or, is there such a thing as "Bad" poetry?. . . I know we've discussed this before, but I'd like to hear more. . .

Thanks!!!

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1 posted 02-12-2001 10:06 PM       View Profile for Celeste   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Celeste

Oh gosh!   I could go really far with this!   Lets see..........

The worst poetry comes from

Closed Minds
Large Ego's?
My pen?
PMS?

I think I vote for closed minds!

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2 posted 02-12-2001 11:17 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

a matter of opinion. (I may hate something or not understand it, but someone else may LOVE it!)
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3 posted 02-13-2001 11:57 AM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

Stuff written for shock value only.
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4 posted 02-13-2001 12:29 PM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

High high high Experimental:

eg;

12437 home rocks out a 380458 dance

now come on.

please.


...and I have found that a lifetime can be lived in one moment...

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5 posted 02-13-2001 02:11 PM       View Profile for Dopey Dope   Email Dopey Dope   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Dopey Dope

the worst poetry is my poetry
and it comes from me.



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6 posted 02-13-2001 08:26 PM       View Profile for Elizabeth   Email Elizabeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Elizabeth's Home Page   View IP for Elizabeth

The worst Poetry is written by Elizabeth

or comes from her pen....

Sorry Sven I couldn't resist that!

Seriously though, I don't like it when the descriptive words the author uses doesn't make sense. I may love the poem, but sometimes can't understand parts of it!

Edited to say this: that doesn't mean it's a bad poem. I was just stating my opinion, but this is not the best thread to do it in I guess.

[This message has been edited by Elizabeth (edited 02-13-2001).]
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But because we don't understand it that doesn't make it the worst!!!!
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8 posted 02-13-2001 09:19 PM       View Profile for Celeste   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Celeste

It's like those mornings someone throws a foggy one out there before I've even had a cup of coffee and requires me to THINK!!!!!

I'd definitely vote for them at 7 a.m.!!!!!



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9 posted 02-13-2001 09:29 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

3 words, sans punctuation: e e cummings
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I didn't say it was the worst. I just said I didn't like that part of it. There have been poems with parts I don't understand (I even asked my mom what some of the phrases meant and she didn't understand them either), but I didn't say that made it a bad poem.
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11 posted 02-14-2001 12:57 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

wait a minute Ali. . . what's wrong with cummings?? or for that matter, "experimental" poetry??

I mean, sure it's hard to understand. . . but, perhaps it's all in our minds. . . and sure, sometimes it looks like the poet just threw it up there and called it a poem. . . but doesn't it still have merit as a poem??

Just wondering. . . this is a great discussion!!!

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unwritten poetry

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The worst poetry, in my opinion, comes from overtinkering with the basic concept of the poem, leaving it a corrupted badstart of the poem you were intending to write.

Colin, who's going for a bath right now before he decides to look at "one more thread"

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14 posted 02-14-2001 05:25 PM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

Rhyming lines with no feeling, definently!



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Don't get me wrong, Sven. Over the years, I've read a lot of cummings. Just don't care for his style. Then there's MacLeish, who I've also read, but grew tired of the same format, poem after poem. I guess that's what's it, at the root: style.
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16 posted 02-14-2001 08:23 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

very interesting Ali. . . thanks!!!

acire, I love your answer. . . it's perfect. . .

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17 posted 02-14-2001 08:36 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

The worst poetry is a poem that says what has already been written.

The worst poetry comes from nothing but sincerity.

Brad
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18 posted 02-14-2001 08:43 PM       View Profile for Sven   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Sven

quote:
The worst poetry comes from nothing but sincerity.


Please explain. . . I'm not sure if I understand what you mean here. . .

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19 posted 02-14-2001 08:51 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

It's a paraphrase from Oscar Wilde:

"All bad poetry springs from genuine feeling. To be natural is to be obvious, and to obvious is to be inartistic."

I think what he means is that it lacks subtlety. Notice that he doesn't argue whether good poetry should or should not be genuine.

Brad


[This message has been edited by Brad (edited 02-14-2001).]
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pompous words?
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It comes from those who've lost their muse.

Kris

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It is enlightenment to know one's self" - Lao Tzu
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Ok, Bad poetry? Yes and No.

I'll start with no. Reason:......
I don't think it's fair to say one way or another if poetry is bad.
It's a matter of one's opinion!
Who's writen it...
What are they writing about.... etc etc.
Then there is the rhyme, meter etc, that some people use to judge a poem with.
Ok, that's fair I guess, but did the reader focus more on weather it flowed well or not, or did they really "read" the piece, pick up what the author was trying to convey?
I have to agree with Sharon o this one....
What one person likes, another may hate and so on.

Ok, as far as yes goes: This is just MY personal opinion.
I've read poetry that I had no idea what the athor was talking about. I've read poetry that made no sense what so ever.
The poems that are choppy and jump around a lot.....
Then again, maybe that was the authors intention!....
So, who am I to judge one's poetry? I'm not, not at all.

The only time I will say a poem is BAD, is if it glorifies something aweful and hidious!
Like murder or rape. I call that BAD!

So Sven, to answer your question.....For the most part...NO!


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left by those who got there first"


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I agree with Irie.
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24 posted 02-16-2001 10:10 PM       View Profile for Swamp了aeryie   Email Swamp了aeryie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Swamp了aeryie

i HATE MY POETRY!!but keep writing it because i come up with cool phrases and lines.lol. i mean i swear i come up with some great really stunning phrases but that's ALL i have,i never have enuf wit to fill the whole poem with good stuff. So you have one good line and the rest is just absolute trash,and i hate that,but oh vell i know i'm not a poet and i cope..lol..

also i HATE it when rhyme becomes prison,i hate reading poems where you know someone's trying to say something,but the rhyme is tripping them up and they end up sticking stupid words in there for the sake of the rhyme. i have learned my lesson well,rhyme can be a stumbling block,i now hardly ever attempt rhyme.On the other had,having to rhyme is like a higher plateau,i have read such good rhyming poetry in here and it amazes me so!!!!!WOW :!

and just to add a contrary opinion.....i ADORE poetry that makes no sense,i love nonesense poetry,it's like looking in someone's head and following their strea of thought,you really have to sit down and analyze and hypothesize.....so experimental poetry is a mega on my list of cool stuff!!

sam
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