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chopsticks
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0 posted 2007-10-05 06:11 AM


The true believer

They have come with righteous numbers.
They have said, times running out.
They have told, it all could crumble.
Your reply has been a flout.

Could you please, stop for a moment.
Listen to their mournful plea.
When  artic ice turns to water,
terror comes from sea to sea.

Yes it’s an old, old story,
of man’s eternal gall.
As he fails to see so clearly,
“The hand writing on the wall.”

You must come true believer
to your very own conclusion ;
is plant earth, going through,
the latent heat of fusion ?


© Copyright 2007 My brother John. - All Rights Reserved
Brad
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1 posted 2007-10-06 07:22 PM


I've read this several times and you start with a Biblical tone. Why not drop the rhyme and stick with that?

I don't know, this may create more problems than it solves, but at least I don't have to deal with gall/wall and conclusion/fusion.

chopsticks
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2 posted 2007-10-06 09:18 PM


Brad, thanks for the reply, A true believer can be righteous without being Biblical. I did not mean for my poem to have any Biblical tone; but if it did, it’s more my fault than the reader, I think.

I am cursed with a orderly mind and I can not write poetry that doesn’t rhyme.

Where I live if you do something with good conscious and motive, it is righteous.

I’ll just try again and when I get one right, I’ll be happy to hear from Brad.


Brad
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3 posted 2007-10-06 10:10 PM


Okay,

I was thinking that a Biblical tone might be appropriate for the theme. Maybe along the lines of the Psalms or Whitman or something.

On the other hand, it might be fun to play with the speaker/narrator (as opposed to the author )of the poem.

Good luck.

[This message has been edited by Brad (10-07-2007 07:46 AM).]

Essorant
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4 posted 2007-10-07 01:06 AM


I think this mostly needs a few less periods and a bit more metrical consistency.  As well giving all the lines rhymes may give it a bit more poetic puissance.

Here is a loose suggestion:


They come, a righteous-numbered lot,
To tell us time is running out
And all may crumble to a naught,
But your reply has been a flout.

May not ye lend a while your ears
And listen to their mournful plea?
When arctic ice turns into tears,
Then terror comes from sea to sea.

Yes, as a story it is old
of man’s eternal, bitter gall,
Who fails in judgement to behold
That bold "handwriting on the wall.”

Ye must arrive, believer true,
To find and hold your own conclusion;
Is planet earth thus going through
The latency and heat of fusion?


Do you think that sounds better?



chopsticks
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5 posted 2007-10-07 07:48 AM


Hi Essorant,
I think your suggested poems is much better than mine.

I have just one question, who owns it? I hope I do.

Is there any chance of getting you to suggest something for " Should I know "? That is much more important to me than the lost cause of Global Warming

Brad
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6 posted 2007-10-07 08:45 AM


Perhaps it's time to go home.

Immediately.

Those are Ess's words.

chopsticks
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7 posted 2007-10-07 09:13 AM


Those are Ess's words“.

Brad, Ess may just give me the poem. The juices that flow in Canada may be more
compassionate.

I'm getting on that 10 O'Clock train for home ; so Ess if you do give me the poem, here is thanks in advance.
  


Essorant
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8 posted 2007-10-07 11:00 AM


  

Hi Chopsticks,

It is completely up to you.  That is why I gave it as a suggestion.  I'm glad if it may help and if you may use it in any way you wish.


chopsticks
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9 posted 2007-10-07 11:34 AM


Thank you Essorant,

I was right about Canadians.

Brad
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10 posted 2007-10-07 03:58 PM


Perhaps they are but he should still get credit.
chopsticks
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11 posted 2007-10-07 06:24 PM


Brad, you are taking this to serious, I think.

When I sale the poem to the Wall Street Journal I will give all the money and credit  to the gentleman from Canada.

Everybody at this forum knows who wrote the good one.

Brad
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12 posted 2007-10-07 06:35 PM


Unfortunately, I have to.
Essorant
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13 posted 2007-10-08 12:47 PM


A suggestion for improvement is given in voluntary charity.  There is nothing due in return.


chopsticks
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14 posted 2007-10-08 04:29 PM


"When I sale the poem to the Wall Street Journal I will give all the money and credit  to the gentleman from Canada."

The above was said in jest ;but Sir, you are a 24K gentleman.

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