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oceanvu2
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0 posted 2007-07-08 05:21 PM


The Cuckold’s Soliloquy


Was’t not enough that you should cheat me once?
What were our tears and nights of anguish for?
In foolishness, I thought we’d reconciled,
But yet again you’ve found another’s bed.
Sweet Caroline, I give you what I have
Though it is clearly not enough.  There is
No more that I can offer.  You have
My love. If it is not enough, then leave
Me now!  Yet,  keep me still, if not
In heart, then memory.   Remember love
I singly proffered.  And if you find enough,
Then tell me what it is, this satisfaction
My love could not prove. And I will study
On it.  If love should rack my heart again,
I need to know enough to love sustain.


This is about iambics.  Inviting comments on form, and, if anyone's game, "Caroline's" answer.

Best, Jim


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1 posted 2007-07-08 09:39 PM


I'm probably going to regret this but I simply couldn't resist.

Sweet Caroline's Response

When what you can is once a month, then dear
it’s clearly not enough. And if your love
can’t be sustained for more than seven
minutes, believe me, Jack, I kid you not,
there is no satisfaction! Your silly
talk of anguish and betrayal’s really
quite pretentious if one stops to ponder
on the fact this Sweet Caroline is just
your current favorite mistress. Proffer
this and study that as you wish my dear,
all you have to offer me is the chance
to play a second fiddle. But now that
I’ve been tuned by a maestro’s hands, you can
take your rosined bow back home and stick it!


oceanvu2
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2 posted 2007-07-08 11:35 PM


Hi Jennifer!  Absolutely delightful!  You're a stitch!

Best, Jim

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3 posted 2007-07-09 05:46 PM


If you would look at this as a series of stanzas and write it out that way, it might help, even if you still decide afterwards to lay it all out as you have. But, that is how I will usually rearrange a write, in order to critique. It helps in finding the uneven patterns which stand out right away.

The first thing that trips the mind is that contraction of a contraction you chose in S1. A poor beginning right off. If it's a mistake, that's one thing. But it comes off as a contortion of sorts to suit your iambic objectives.

The line lengths have some irregularities, beginning with the first, which is 6 metric feet--even given the contracted contraction.
Most of the others are 5 feet long and iambically sound as it were, except:
In L7, which is 4 feet, there is a bump at the words "…offer. And… " causes it to become dactylic. It could be corrected slightly by wording it something like, "…offer. For, you have…"
L9 is 4 metric feet, but the meter is smooth enough to keep it from being too noticeable. You could leave it as is.
The "And…" in L11 if eliminated would help smooth out the meter. It adds nothing anyway.
L13 has a bump in meter which could be corrected with a little rewrite, such as saying it thusly:
" which my love could never prove. I'll study
whether love should rack my heart again..."


I'm not a fan of inversions such as you have attempted in the final line, which is simply a distraction. If you were simply going for the rhyme, you should try something else, especially since you cause further distraction having used, "love" twice in the same sentence.

The samplings of internal and off rhyme alone within the piece don't provoke interest enough for anyone looking for substance--having been placed, metrically in inconsistent patterns. But they may be worth developing.

Whenever there is intentional enjambment throughout a piece, my preference is avoiding caps at every line's beginning. This is actually more for the reader's benefit than the poet's. It doesn't bother me as much with end-stopped verse though.

Your syntax is not consistent throughout.

Sid

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4 posted 2007-07-10 02:12 PM


Hi Sid!  Thank you for your time and priceless comments.

Best, Jim

Oh, that this too too solid flesh would melt

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5 posted 2007-07-10 03:26 PM


The Maestro intervenes

Peace both of you, and for a moment dwell
upon the instrumental theme which brings
such possibilities for harmony.  
The triangle, for instance, might if tapped
produce a sap so sweet that Eros gapes,
amazed at such rhythmic delight.  Forte!
allegro! then my sweets: tune up the strings
and wind of your desire.  And Caroline
my mistress dear, my little piccolo,
my harp, imagine my trombone extended,
matching time to his french horn!  Oh, how lithe
would our glissando sweep.  In triple time,
and treble clef we'll swell our manly chords
to slake the flaring trumpet of your lips.

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6 posted 2007-07-10 04:18 PM


Hi Moonbeam!  I really didn't think you could resist!  I'm just hoping that "peace" is not the pun I think it is.  Actually, I'm hoping that it is the pun I think it is!

In deference to the sensitive, I refrain from commenting on tapping triangles.  

Nothing like da-Dums to bring out the verst in us.

Or, I think, therefore iamb.

Or:   Something in my heart applauds
      When poets conversate with bawds.

Aargh!  Jim  

[This message has been edited by oceanvu2 (07-10-2007 05:12 PM).]

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7 posted 2007-07-13 09:33 PM


I don't mean to interrupt--I really have nothing new to add. I liked your poem, but Sid pretty much summed up the parts I had difficulty with, specifically, inversions. (I do them too, so, um, shrug...but even when I do them, I annoy myself as I find them a contrivance.)

I just wanted to ask you--since I have been a "Caroline"--should the muse strike me--would you mind very much?

I'm not sure if I can summon her up, but if it's okay, I'd be happier posting in Open.


(I'm obviously not a regular in this particular forum, although I do find my favorites wherever they roam, I'd be happier posting where I contribute the most, and I'd welcome formal critique there as well.)

And I have no idea if I will write anything or not, so no promises, k? I killed Caroline a long time ago.



oceanvu2
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8 posted 2007-07-13 11:59 PM


Hi, SB -- sure, wail away!  I don't look at Open, but I'd go there for you!  

Best, Jim!

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