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richie617
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since 2007-03-26
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0 posted 2007-03-26 06:19 PM


yes, rap is a form of poetry (RAP = rhythm and POETRY)

also, yes I know this forum is for constructive criticism, not for praise or anything. So, critique away!

these are the 3 verses I have, I do not have a chorus for the song yet

1st Verse
The past is permanent like the ink from my pen
Thoughts stuck on rewind, playin again and again
Unescapably they stalkin me to the end
Evident in every word of every line that i've said
guilt eatin me up cuz I continue to dwell
Got me feelin like there's no way out of this hell
like livin ya whole life bein confined to a cell
Hope y'all are listenin cuz I got a story to tell
These last few months aint been no walk in the park
like huntin a black panther hidden into the dark
I'm fallin apart and I Find it hard to forget
But this is what it's like to live ya life wit regret

2nd Verse

For every step I take forward, I take two steps back
Don't know what I gotta do to get my life on track
I'm on my knees beggin for god to give me the answer
Nightmare of a man, worse than testicular cancer
I aint here to play games, I didn't do this for fame
I'm here to set my claim but it hurts just the same
Writin my rhymes puts me into the right mentality
But then like a rubberband, snap back to reality
My demons follow me everywhere that I go
Even while I was in the back rehearsing my flow
They were right there wit me, I bet you didn't know
Movin on is hard when you got no where to go


3rd Verse

A true measure of a man is how deals with adversity
if he can move on wit his life as if he was livin it perfectly
a formality of reality, to which I can attest
It aint gonna be easy but I know it's for the best
I'm just here to get a little somethin off a my chest
After this I hope to put these feelings to rest
The pain and the drama I done been through it all
But I can never give up I know I gotta stay strong
So I'm pickin my head up and i'm holdin it high
Refuse to sit back and watch my life passing me by
I've made up my mind, so now it's time to unwind
And i'm leavin nothin behind but the tears that i've cried

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UseTheIllusion
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1 posted 2007-03-26 06:56 PM


As a fan of hip-hop, as I am sure you are as well, I thought this was average.  You had a good message, and god knows I could relate to most of what you said in this piece.  The rhythm was good as well.  If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were a fan of Immortal Technique.  

The main problem with this piece is that you didn't really go anywhere nobody else has gone.  Granted, you apparently decided to travel the path most traveled, which in itself is not a bad thing.  It merely keeps this piece from creaming to the top.  One thing that kept throwing me off was when you say "wit" instead of with, or "I done" instead of I have.  Not that African-American-Vernacular-English (mouthful, isn't it) is a lesser form of language, because it isn't.  It just kept on catching my eye, and keeping it there, and preventing me from keeping with the flow of the piece.  

The best advice I can give you is to work on some unique imagery, metaphor's, and analogies.  Again, this wasn't bad at all...It could be better.          

richie617
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since 2007-03-26
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2 posted 2007-03-26 09:47 PM


thanks for the input bro, I really appreciated it

and yes immortal technique is quite possibly my favorite rapper. His similes are sick, and some of the words he uses are words that you would never expect to hear from a rapper.

It's really hard to do something that nobody has done, it seems like everything has been done already . But yes i'm going to take your advice to heart and try to make this piece better, and input a chorus

UseTheIllusion
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since 2006-02-06
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In a state of limbo
3 posted 2007-03-27 10:57 AM


No problem.  Good luck.  
oceanvu2
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since 2007-02-24
Posts 1066
Santa Monica, California, USA
4 posted 2007-03-27 06:07 PM


Re your comment "It's really hard to do something that nobody has done..."  Jesus, ain't that the truth.  On the other hand, it's also the whole point.

I can't comment intelligently on the rap idiom because I don't get it.  My problem.

On the other hand, my wife collects obscure vinyl EP's from the likes of Butchwax Records and Luke Records (SOCIETY).  She swears it's an art form and I trust her opinion.

Ya just gotta keep on keepin' on.

Jim

UseTheIllusion
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In a state of limbo
5 posted 2007-03-27 06:51 PM


As a bit of a side note, I would be interested to see what other lyrics you have written (if any).  
18
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since 2007-03-28
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6 posted 2007-03-28 12:16 PM


ok im being straight forward with you. this rap isnt cat in the hat repetetive. the rhymes your using are predictable. truthfully i have no idea how to find the rhythym in your rappin= rhyme+poetry mumbo jumbo. if you dont have a beat in your head while your writing... youre screwed cuz the lines wont flow. also, when you write literature you have to write about what you know and the same applies to rapping. keep it real homeskrillit
richie617
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7 posted 2007-03-28 08:24 PM


wat do u mean "wat u know"??? this is about something that I actually went through, its about personal experiences. Sorry, I think your going to have to explain a little bit better cuz i didnt understand some of what you said, sorry im kind of slow

and sorry I don't have any thing else, yes im pretty new to rap

viking_metal
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since 2007-02-02
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In a Jeep, Minnesota.
8 posted 2007-03-28 08:54 PM


Never use "u" on a poetry forum. Think of it as common courtesy. This is devoted to literary art and "u" is butchering it a bit. That's only my opinion though, stick to your guns.

The rap was average, I agree the rhytym needs work.

Poetry + Rythym = Meter and verse. Not rap.

Rap is something else all together.

Check out atmosphere, they have some MIND BLOWING lyrics.

Good luck.

-Paul

sampo
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since 2007-02-25
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oz
9 posted 2007-03-28 10:17 PM


richie -

if you are into rap and poetry, I would
suggest reading the work of Miguel Pinero.
it's not all about end-line rhymes (of which
yours are somehwhat forced) Pinero uses
repitition and sets up a rhythm within his
work very effectively. Personally, I don't
like modern rap, but Pinero is one of my
favorite poets and is also, arguably, the
precursor of the modern rap movement.

regards,

sampo

richie617
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since 2007-03-26
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10 posted 2007-03-30 10:57 AM


no, rap does stand for Rhythm And Poetry, just like r&b stands for rhythm and blues. That's what rap comes from, its a fact.

and what about the rhythm needs work, like what should I do to it???

and sorry about the u thing, im just so used to typing that way lol

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