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daniel_martin
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0 posted 2003-06-15 06:28 AM


an new one. This is set during WW1 in London.

An autumn dawn awakes once more
the current of the Thames. Burgundy
ripples swirl against the riverbank,
as if enchanted by the finch's prelude.

Such was London's spell upon him
on his early morning tour,
that a hesitation was exorcised from his soul
and replaced by the popular purge
                                      of patriotism.
At first his resolve had been stubborn against
the flow of war. Content with life,
he nurtured his widowed mother
who ailing at the time, was the only escaping
the desire to love that neighboured beauty.

How he had timed those melancholic walks
to catch a glimpse of her melodic body
waltzing from the cotton factory.
How his face blended with emotion
when she spared an inquisitive look
that pierced his longing spirit.
And how his contented life was stolen
as she shared a white flower
delivered
through a contemptuous eye.
His own glazed with the moment.

But sitting at Hyde Park upon a creaking
Bench, his thoughts were lost
to the subtle beauty of a few fallen leaves,
striving to glide back to their parted branches.

"Ought I join the war in France,
and like those severed leaves reunite myself
within her arms?" His thoughts tormented,
driven by the desire to enact the dreams
that screamed for poetry to make its spell complete.

And so his thoughts left him on a platform at
                                                         Waterloo.
Besides an enrolment officer sealed his fate,
with the promise of adventure, and the words
"You'll be back by Christmas lad!"

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cynicsRus
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1 posted 2003-06-15 12:38 PM



More than a few cliche's;
More than a few misspellings.
When wayward meter trips the tongue, as in this piece, line breaks alone can't turn it into poetry.

Sid

daniel_martin
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2 posted 2003-06-15 12:41 PM


haha, I see no clear cliche` i'm afriad. And i might be wrong, but i can't see any spelling mistakes either. could you be more constructive?

[This message has been edited by daniel_martin (06-15-2003 01:01 PM).]

cynicsRus
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3 posted 2003-06-15 02:23 PM



First of all, it's "a" new one, not "an" new one
awakens, not awakes.
"dawn awakening"=Cliche'

"that a hesitation was exorcised from his soul
and replaced by the popular purge
                                      of patriotism."
Here's the first place the tongue trips up. You're trying so hard for imagery, that you end up overdoing it both metaphorically and metrically.

"nighboured beauty" Improper use of a word, unless it's colloquial in your part of the world, in which case I'd be willing to apologize. Otherwise, it's a poor descriptive term. Not sure what you meant to convey; neighbor...as in "adjacent"?

"face blended with emotion" Cliche'

"life was stolen" Cliche...whether contented or otherwise.

"as she shared a white flower
delivered
through a contemptuous eye.

Unclear how a flower can be delivered "through...an eye," "contemptuous" or otherwise, or what you're really trying to convey in this line.

"...creaking Bench,"  cliche'

"...the subtle beauty of a few fallen leaves,
striving to glide back to their parted branches."

This is the most creative line in your whole piece--along with
"and like those severed leaves reunite myself within her arms?"

Actually quite lovely. If you could build the rest of your metaphors as clearly as you did here, I'm sure you'd have no need to ask for critical analysis. Especially from this amateur.

"enrolment" is misspelled

All in all, as I implied before: Remove the line breaks and you could post this on a Prose Forum, where I'm sure it would fit in very nicely.

Sid

daniel_martin
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4 posted 2003-06-15 02:39 PM


that's funny, for the part you considered sound is what i consider most cliche`.

you are being pedantic on the first stanza, it is not grammatically unsound and does work.

in WW1, there existed no conscription, so the force was built up of volunteers. This was a social expectation to join the war and protect your king and country, thus if a man of age was suspected of not being enrolled in the army, one was presented with a white flower, a symbol of cowardice.

neigboured beauty... i can see what you mean, but at the same time it makes sense to me, and no one else has suggested otherwise

all in all, i think a lot of the images are verging on cliche` which if you read a little deeper into the poem was purposefully done so. this is a satire. i would say "belded with emotion" is a cliche` ill work on it.

once again, no spelling mistakes, my dictionary has no problem with "enrolment" and all in all i tihnk you tried too hard to [edited by moderator] on the poem, other than to add constructive critique.   that's cool with me.

my main problem is that you consider this almost prose like. i can quote some wordsworth that you would state similarly, or even some hughs.

however, i do appreciate the comment. All critique is good critique as far as i am concerned... as i said, "blended with emotion" will be re-worked.

cheers, sid

daniel

[This message has been edited by Sunshine (06-16-2003 09:47 AM).]

cynicsRus
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5 posted 2003-06-15 05:13 PM


Daniel,

With all due respect: You asked me to qualify my remarks, and I gave my opinion. It was simply that. I don't pretend to speak for anyone else. Whether I'm seen as pedantic by you or not, it's still my opinion. You're the one who stated that there were no "clear cliche's", nor spelling mistakes. Now you tell me that implied cliche's were intentional?
The only thing that gives the slightest hint that this may be a satire, is the final stanza.

If you are going to draw even a passing comparison to Wordsworth, you need to study his metric form more closely. It won't trip up your tongue. That's the reason his work is still respected while yours is trying to make it past amateur critics.

Sid

NickTofteland
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since 2003-06-13
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6 posted 2003-06-15 08:51 PM


Daniel-
I know you probably don't want to hear it, but I agree with Sid on almost all of his points. I have read the poem 6 times now, trying to view it section by section all in different perspectives but I fail to see where the depth of a cliche' passes a simple cliche'. As well, I agree that this would be much more effective as a prose.

Psalms 20:7 "Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the Lord our God."

daniel_martin
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since 2003-06-15
Posts 30
london
7 posted 2003-06-16 03:40 AM


well, though i could disagree with one sensible voice, two would just be ignorant and obnoxious.

I think i'll put this to the side, and leave it as the experiment it was.

cheers guys.

daniel

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