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Echordor

In the land of Echordor
Five Kingdoms grew like none before
Nan Nimrant, Amon Caran
Rhun Esgal and Talath Galan
And of the darkest Gordeldor
That lies the furthest from the shore
Where monsters waken from their sleep
And dark blood rising from the deep
Seek to rule for evermore
Over all of Echordor
Over dwarf, elf, beast and man
From Talath Galan to Amon Caran
From the sky unto the floor
Spread the hands of Gordeldor.

Beneath the seven towers of white
That sparkle in the blackest night
Sits the king of noble men
In the city of Naadwen
Beneath the quilted sky of grey
Seeps the broken light of day
As the biting chill from distant lands
Brings with it the evil hands
That seek to slay the noble king
So that in the chaos that they bring
May the dark prince rise once more
From the depths of Gordeldor

Whilst all is still within the light
The dark hand moves within the night
In the shadows they are found
Or in the depths of underground
The evil spreading through the land
With the reach of the dark hand
So that the evil prince can reign
And bring to all a life of pain
And rot away the purest core
That is the evil of Gordeldor

As the fire builds in his heart
The evil forces tear apart
The sacred gardens of the elves
Where no man or dwarf would ever delve
In the forest of Brethildor
That  watches over all Echordor
In the pools of Turaelin
Stands the mighty Morodin
With the Witch Queen Morwen
Who is the fear of mortal men
Raping ancient elven glades
With their rusty iron blades
Destroying it for evermore
That is the wrath of Gordeldor

Four princes ride with armies four
To the throne of Echordor
Prince KHalin from Rhun Esgal
Where flows the river of Tirthal
Rode with seven thousand men
Through the valley of the weeping glen
To escape the fury of Gordeldor
That chased their heels to Brethildor
From Nan Nimrant Prince Talin fled
Fighting through the rising dead
With ten thousand came his host
To the fortress on the coast
Prince Featur came flew by eagles wing
With all the men that he could bring
From his city Emyn Harost
Where many of his men were lost
Then came Prince Valerian
From the Plains of Talath Galan
There weary feet passed through the dales
From where they could see the mighty sails
That lay floating upon the Haradduin
Where they might find the mighty ruin
the seven towers of brilliant white
So on they marched all through the night
Until they reached the mighty door
Where guardsmen watched for Gordeldor

From the north where cold winds blow
Came the wizards from the snow
When months before they did begin
Aehercnian and Calderirein
Baldaelf, Uleastus and AldCnawan
Came the five wizards of man
The powerful magic of their spells
Shined bright upon the darkest fells
And brought hope to all of Echordor
Beneath the shadow of Gordeldor

Morodin rode with Morwen
Against the white city of men
With living and dead they crossed the plain
The land heaving under the strain
As one hundred thousand crossed the land
As Morodin had long since planned
To take the throne of Echordor
With his dark army of Gordeldor

From the mountains came surprise
As beneath their own very eyes
Came the dwarfs from underground
With the ancient weapons they found
To fight and die with those brave men
Who had once fought with Denduren
Against the horrors of the deep
That now had woken from their sleep
And so the fate of the lands
Was held within their very hands
And here rallied all of Echordor
Before the great army of Gordeldor

Beneath the seven towers of white
Came the army of eternal night
To fight elves, dwarf and man
From Nan Nimrant to Amon Caran
Came the heroes from the lands
To fight the evil at their hands
With mighty axe, bow and blade
From the mountains to the sacred glade
Came the allies of Echordor
And never had they seen before
Such a mighty host arrayed
Against the master of the decayed
And so stood mighty Echordor
Against the evil Gordeldor

Moridin stood beneath the towers white
That still shone upon his knights
And so he let out his mighty rage
And freed the army from it’s cage
As the monsters let out a howl or bark
And charged with the army of the dark
Against the silver armoured men
Outnumbered still by one to ten
But mighty bows hurled arrows true
And many monsters the bowmen slew
But still the army charged on
And soon the arrows were all gone
But axe and blade were quickly drawn
And new hope came within the dawn
As the wizards sent forth fire
And ten thousand burned upon the pyre
And with the bravery of Echordor
So waned the power of Gordeldor

Morwen came forth and cast her spells
And brought forth demons of hell
And witch and wizard battle sought
And with passion they all fought
As undead met with mortal men
At the entrance to Naadwen
Beneath the shining silver gate
Did ten thousand blades clash in hate
As Prince Talin with ten thousand strode
Along the ancient dwarfen road
Into the heart of the army of dread
Where he turned the green field, red
And sought the evil of Morodin
Where all the trouble did begin
And silence fell upon the field
As neither of them would yield
But Morodin with evil power
Slew the hero of the towers
Who gave his life for Echordor
Against his brother of Gordeldor

And upon seeing his noble death
They wasted not a single breath
And the ten thousand charged in hate
Against the army at the gate
And leading them young Prince Valerian
With the mighty sword of Cleofan
And the shield of Osgond on his arm
To shield him from the evil harm
Strode the young prince to his brothers grave
Where his slaughter a path was paved
So with vengeance in his eyes
He looked to the blackened skies
And charged forth at Morodin
With blood still dripping from Talin
And in the growing light
Beneath the seven towers of white
Raged a battle between the two
And with time their anger grew
And Morodin slashed out too far
And struck the shield of shining star
With Valerian Struck for Echordor
And slayed the master of Gordeldor

Upon their evil masters demise
They saw the fury in the eyes
Of dwarf, of Elf and man
From Nan Nimrant and Amon Caran
And weakened they tried to flee
But in the depths of the melee
An elven force was behind their rear
And with no where to disappear
They fought and died where they stood
Against the masters of the wood
And so the elves of Brethildor
Had found revenge against Gordeldor

In the land of Echordor
Five Kingdoms grew like none before
Nan Nimrant, Amon Caran
Rhun Esgal and Talath Galan
And of the lightest Gordeldor
That lies the furthest from the shore
Where the trees grow to the sky
Under the watch of Elven eye
To replace the loss of Brethildor
At the hands of Gordeldor
and dwarf, elf, beast and man
From Talath Galan to Amon Caran
In the sky and under the floor
In harmony live in Echordor.

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I only posted this recently but I'm really looking for some in depth comments, I know thats it's mega long but I'd really appreciate some feedback as I'm thinking about attempting something even longer than this.

Oh and any suggestions about the title? I'd like to change it.

Andrew



Always and forever

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Robtm1965
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1 posted 2002-10-12 02:18 PM


Andrew

Unfortunately I am possibly not the person to give you in depth comments.  I did read to the end but I admit with some difficulty.  

Although your meter and rhythm are pretty consistent (perhaps too consistent) the rhyming couplets became rather monotonous after two or three stanzas.  In particular the "or" sounds reverberated around the poem so much that they kind of dominated to the point of distraction.

My other major problem with this is that it is a narrative poem.  Nothing else.  This means it relies almost entirely on the storyline to maintain interest, and quite frankly if you were totally honest you would have to admit that this is Lord of the Rings with the names changed (a little) all compressed into a few lines of rhyming verse:  

Bad guys (witches goblins etc) attack good guys (elves wizards men etc) - bad guys nearly win but good guys are saved at last moment by hero with magic shield and sword with silly name ("Cleofan" sounds a little like an air-conditioning unit.  

Sorry, I don’t mean to be flippant, but I had the storyline by the end of the second stanza and I was pretty much right.  So in essence I’d say that you write well, but, that like any storytelling, you need to come up with something reasonably original.  

And in passing it occurs to me that I’m doing the very thing I told Severn in another thread that you shouldn’t do, which is to condemn a whole genre of storytelling to death by cliche.  But really, with Tolkien so much at the front of all our minds right now I would suggest you try and find something a little different.

Regards

Rob

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2 posted 2002-10-12 05:23 PM


Thank you for your reply, I am in total agreement that it is a little too tolkienesque, too predictable and all of the other things, but It was meant to be a short(long) story and somewhere along the line Tolkien kind of hijacked it and I want to know how to get away from that.

Where are the goblins?

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3 posted 2002-10-13 12:32 PM


Suggestions:

1. Include fewer characters

2. Vary the word choice. The word "evil" for example is repeated too often as is the number ten-thousand.

3. The second battle seems like a monotonous unnecessary repetition of the first. If indeed it must be included it has to stand out as totally different to avoid reader boredom.

4. The more complicated the character names the harder it is for the reader to remember to whom they are referring--especially when no characterization has not been used to fix them clearly in reader memory. So it's either fewer names or stronger characterization.

5. You need to use more adjectives with your nouns.

BTW

Your choice of rhyming scheme did not bother me at all. It adds drama to the story. IMHO


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Robtm1965
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4 posted 2002-10-13 06:44 AM


Marshal

"Where are the goblins?"

Believe me, where there are wizards witches dwarfs and elves there are also goblins somewhere!!

Interestingly I think you just illustrated the problem I was getting at.  This is just so similar to other stuff like it that I am assuming things which "fit" with the cliche which is fixed in my mind.

I actually agree with most of the previous reviewer's comments for improvement.  But if I were you I'd go for a completely different story line as well as the other things he suggests.

Regards

Rob

[This message has been edited by Robtm1965 (10-13-2002 07:14 AM).]

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