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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
I'm sorry. I deleted my poem. [This message has been edited by Essorant (09-02-2002 02:01 AM).] |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hi Essorant, "I'm sorry. I deleted my poem." I like the minimalistic approach to fairly sensitive subject. Consider expanding slightly on the first line by replacing "I'm" with "I am". Also ponder the idea of a line break between the two sentences and after "deleted" giving the reader a chance to fully absorb the statement, and keeping the reader in suspense before conclusion ie. "I am sorry. I deleted my poem." Or you could change "my" to "this" thereby giving the idea that your poem is universal which would allude to the notion that poetry is shared.ie. "I am sorry. I deleted this poem." But all in all a great, refreshing approach to powerful subject matter. Thanks for the read, Trevor  |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Hey, great critique, Trevor. Essorant, I think his suggestions are spot on. Give it a try and see what you can do with it. Pete |
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D edgar Grey Member
since 2002-08-21
Posts 174Hell...(aka Wisconsin) |
You could also try a new approach, in which you pretty much reverse the poem itself. Here's what I mean: "This poem I have deleted. Sorry." Although I still prefer the other suggestions, all ideas help! |
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U K Hero Member
since 1999-08-08
Posts 266England |
Very little I can say except: Of all the poems in all the halls and web sites of the world why have you deleted this one? Post it again [it aint SPAM]. |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
I like D. Edgar's version, but to take it one step further you could Yoda'ize it...I forget what that poetic technique is called so I'll stick with my Star Wars Analogy. Deleted Deleted I have this poem, sorry I am. I'm think UK's version is a little long and strays from the minimalist approach you were taking. Perhaps chopping down some of it and merging it with the original might work... "Of all the poems I have deleted, I am sorry this one is gone from this web site" But I don't know, perhaps that's straying from your original intent? Interesting reads nonetheless, thanks  Trevor [This message has been edited by Trevor (09-04-2002 08:16 AM).] |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Rotf, actually, being a fan of minimalism myself I was thinking instead of adding to the poem you could even make it less... how about you just say: poem deleted Now, that's about as minimalistic as you can possibly get and still get the idea across...heh.. Trevor - yoda technique's called Inversion  K |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hiya all, Now were cooking with gas here.... I think Severn is really on to something here...I think we can take it just a tiny bit futher and still keep this poem's meaning in tact...and I've got one word for ya... "poemdeleted" What'cha think? Anyone else? Maybe we should just have the title and empty space? Inversion, thanks Sev, I'm like a goldfish when it comes to remembering all them big city fancy word like type thingys. Thanks, Trevor [This message has been edited by Trevor (09-04-2002 09:03 PM).] |
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caterina Member
since 2002-07-25
Posts 188Canada |
I have another version of this one which is minamalistic and appealing to the eye as well. S o r r y P o em d e le ted. Just another thought. Anyone like? caterina |
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Kirk T Walker Member
since 2000-01-13
Posts 357Liberty, MO |
I think that stanza breaks and running the words together is contrary to the desired enigmatic effect--it gives too much away. I like Severn's revision, but I think it may take away from the emotional content because we don't know that the speaker of the poem is, in fact, "sorry" that the poem was deleted. Very nicely done. One of my all time favorite posts. |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Ahha! But no Kirk...I did take into account the emotional content of the sorry: Minimalism often calls for a poem that seemingly lacks any emotion...bald statements that are devoid of feeling-laden adjectives...therefore, in true minimalist vein I do think that my revision retains some notion that there is a loss - simply because a poem has been deleted. That's a sad loss isn't it...says a lot: loss of words, loss of something to say and makes one wonder - why has a poem been deleted at all??? Now, if an actual sorry was included in my revision it might look like this: sorry poem deleted Then, one would wonder - is the author sorry the poem is deleted for himself, or for others? Omitting the sorry lets the reader ponder on the sense of loss in their own terms, completely...to the extent where the reader can wonder if the author was, in fact, sorry at all!  Yeah, so...did that wash? Er yes...warble warble. Caterina - nice use of space there...picture that on one A4 sheet...very nice... Trev - yer wellicom... K[This message has been edited by Severn (09-04-2002 10:43 PM).] |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hiya, Caterina, I think I would have preferred if you used "Sorry" to circle the rest of the poem I think I'm starting to lean in a different direction....perhaps it would be better as an minimalist exsitential piece... Deleted Am I the sorry deletion of my poem? and even maybe abstract minimalist... Deleted I flushed the goldfish. mmmmmm? This poem has more life in it than all my work combined It sure would be nice to hear what the author's opinion is Thanks, Trevor |
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Jamie Member Elite
since 2000-06-26
Posts 3168Blue Heaven |
I rather like the original. Though I would rather the two sentences not share the single line. I'm sorry. I deleted my poem. The punctuation is very key here, inasmuch as an error would have changed the meaning entirely. For instance remove the period after "I'm sorry" and the author might be seen as conveying regret at having deleted the poem rather than being apologetic for having deleted it. I also like the use of "I'm, I and my" as it makes it more personal and creates a sense of intimacy which allows one to feel almost generous enough to grant forgiveness to the deleter of a poem which we shall now perhaps never see. After reading through all the above I feel compelled to offer the following. I'm sorry, I didn't delete my reply. JThere is society where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar. byron [This message has been edited by Jamie (09-05-2002 12:32 AM).] |
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Radrook Senior Member
since 2002-08-09
Posts 648 |
Interesting statement! [This message has been edited by Radrook (09-06-2002 12:36 AM).] |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hiya all, A real deep and interesting interpretation Radrook, but I'm now partial to think it actually strays from what I now believe to be the original context of the poem....It may just be about a Satanic worshiping thing. I'll break down the poem, bit by evil bit, in order to prove my point. * "I'm" Not only is it the abbreviated beginning of a slogan to a popular brand of Canadian beer(which is evil in itself), but it is also the self worshiping proclamation of a Satanist. "I'm" or "me" stating overall self importance above all else. What other way would a Satanist start their sentences? Book of Satan Bath Tub Time Hitler 3:666 "And the masterbators sprang forth from a firey lake of naughty juices and proclaimed with blinded eyes and waving hairy palms, that "All is fruitful when I'm alone with me." * "sorry", now I'm beginning to think Essorant is meaning that in a sarcastic way. Book of Satan Bullying 101 Executed Non-Christians 82:13 "And the large child took the bouncy ball from the little ones and held it high. Try as they might, the short weak children could not reach the ball and began to cry. The large child, feeling wrongful in his behaviour, decided to return the ball to the gnats. However, he first split its seams thereby releasing the imprisoned air, then kindly gave back the ball and said "I'm sooooo sorry." And there was giggling, celebration and festivities by the large people who rejoiced in their superiority." * "." a little black spot...hmmmm, what else is like a black spot...a blackhole perhaps? And what does a black hole do...why it destroys universes....coincidence...hmmmm, I think not. * "I", again, yet another referal to self. Book of Satan Sinful Wishes Martha Stewart 69:69 "And the fat bodied children stretched on chairs for the forbodden cookie jar. All the while screaming "I want!", not ever releasing that there was a box of fudge beneath the sink." ...everytime I hear that story I can't help but reflect on its importance. Like the time mother and I were preparing my first sacraficial virgin and I said I was unsure about the whole thing...long story short, she straightened me out with this story. * "deleted", could any other word be as strong as this one? I think not. To delete something is to make it disappear for good. Poof, its gone....sounds like witchcraft to me. Book of Satan Vegas Sigfried and Roy 12a:8 "If ze zigareettens are unst bad for zee, zen how uns come duckys like to schwim in zee pond vile I shrow bready at zem?" ....Sorry, it makes more sense in German and loses all its real impact in the translation, but I'm sure everyone gets the gist of the story. * "my", again this poem is laced with self indulgent words, "I'm", "I", "my". The poem is only one line long yet there are three direct references to self. Book of Biggie Sized Satan Mc Satanism Ronald McDonald 1:11 "On the fourth day He created beef patties. On the fifth day He invented sesame seed buns. And on the sixth day He created a secret special sauce. On the seventh He rested and looked up at his franchise and exclaimed, "Would you like fries with that?" ...eeerie, I know. * "poem"...and we all know what poem spelled backwards is don't we..."meop"...and like its says in... Book of Satan Collection Plates The Pope 42:1:7 "And the hooven foot, red tailed, oversized fork carrying Big Guy downstairs shall make a pie of marshmellows, eclairs, orange pekoe tea and pineapple and He shall call it MEOP. He will share it will all who wish to be naughty and eat dessert five minutes before dinner." * "."...And she ends the poem with yet another reference to destruction. Now if you take the whole thing from the perspective I've just stated, then its obvious what this poem is really about. "I'm sorry. I deleted my poem."....meant to be reeeeeaaalllly sarcastic. So in other words what she is saying is, I'm sorry I deleted this poem because what I had really intended to do was to delete all of you instead. She wants to "poof!" us away...imagine, the whole time I thought this was a sweet little poem and now I finally discover what she is really plotting...I bet she's just using this poem to lure us all int *POOF!* -"I'm still here but she digitalized me and shrank my head!!! Oh, oh, here comes Pete, I better warn him. Pete! Pete! Stay away Pete!"*POOF!* -"Well don't say I didn't tell ya so."  -"Yeah she's a crafty one alright."Well the animation isn't all that strong, but you can clearly see by my re-inactment, what may actually happen if you don't wait a half hour after eating before swimming. Thanks, Trevor *****It looks like Radrook's post has been *Poof'd!* too....oh when will the witchcraft ever end??!! [This message has been edited by Trevor (09-07-2002 04:01 AM).] |
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Toad Member
since 2002-06-16
Posts 161 |
Essorant If you actually posted a poem and then changed your mind and replaced it with the above statement I suggest you email a moderator and ask them to delete the whole post. If not simply paint me confused and ignore this interruption. |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
But then we would have missed all these surprisingly insightful interpretations. All right, now where is Essorant? I would like to hear the authors intent. I think at least some of you guys must be wrong. Pete P.S. Thanks for the warning Trev. I ducked just in time. I think. Never express yourself more clearly than you can think - Niels Bohr [This message has been edited by Not A Poet (09-05-2002 05:50 PM).] |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hello all, TOAD: You're not following the clearly outlined game rules here. Take a look at the second post in the PIP Poetry Games Forum and you'll find what the guidelines are for this game. I can't say I agree with your interpretation of "Deleted". I think you're way off basis with this analysis. "If you actually posted a poem and then changed your mind and replaced it with the above statement" Wait a tick, you actually may be on to something Toad, clever, very clever, the way you allude to things Mr. Toad with your subtle use of "If you actually". I get what you're hinting at....maybe she didn't actually post a poem, maybe that's the whole point of the poem...she never did say which poem, if in fact she even deleted one. She may actually be apologizing for deleting a poem that (a) she wrote years ago, or (b) she never even existed. This could all just be a goose chase. Maybe she wants us to think that she has written a poem but in fact she never ever never even did. Brilliant Essorant! "I suggest you email a moderator and ask them to delete the whole post." But Toad, why do I get the impression you're trying to put a stingy taste in our cornflakes? "If not simply paint me confused" ...a little shade of blue here, a dab of green there, more yellow, yes more yellow, and just a hint of morrocan tan...and viola, c'est fin. La Masterpiece Du Confusion....so my french is pretty weak, eh what can I do, I was sick that day of class. But I know you're on as many pins and needles as I am awaiting the next version of "Deleted" so here's my new suggestion for the poem's rewrite, Deleted Eyemmmm sore e. Aye D Lead'd ghnMei po hem. ***(for reference: in the ancient Mellacca language any combination of g, h, and n, is read as a silent noun'ian verb which is used to describe the Flemish vowel of "xG".) So what'cha think...ahhh, don't answer, its apparent the poem is a keeper...just have to see if I can smuggle it past the poem wardens. "and ignore this interruption." Eh, you still here... I'm just teasing ya Toad, I hope you're not talking offense to my words, if ya are, I'm sorry. But I do hope that you don't just see these posts as an excersise in goofing off.PETE: "P.S. Thanks for the warning Trev. I ducked just in time. I think." Actually you didn't duck in time, hence the two heads talking to one another???....I knew I should've hired another actor to play the role of angry face....follow the script damn it!! oh you unionized artists will be the death of theatre Thanks everyone, Trevor |
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Toad Member
since 2002-06-16
Posts 161 |
Does it matter what the authors’ intent was? What about the intent of those that replied, I’d be interested as to whether the replies were conceived as serious critiques or as tongue in cheek parodies posted for light relief and amusement (which is how I read them). If the latter is it possible that Essorant has unwittingly become the target of an out of control in-joke? If they are in fact serious critiques but the object of those critics is a simple statement of fact instead of an intended ‘minimalist’ piece of art isn’t it a sign that perhaps some people are unable to differentiate between the two? In which case the insightful interpretations are useless as critiques; critiquing a statement as a work of art would be, as one physicist (Feynman??) was apt to remark – “not even wrong.” Or are you suggesting that regardless of the original intent the ensuing discussion had merit? If that’s true the answer to my original question would be “No, the authors intent is unimportant.” Which seems to infer that the critique is more important than the object of the critique. Perhaps the original post was intended as a ‘minimalist piece, if it was and the replies were tongue in cheek would that be classed as ever so slightly condescending? Of course if it was a minimalist piece and the replies were of a serious nature feel free to paint me stupid, in whatever colour you see fit, and accept my apology for once more interrupting this thread. |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Heeeeeelllloooo all! MR. TOAD: "Does it matter what the authors’ intent was?" To whom is this question directed at, I'm sure you'll get a different response from each person. "What about the intent of those that replied, I’d be interested as to whether the replies were conceived as serious critiques or as tongue in cheek parodies posted for light relief and amusement (which is how I read them)." You and me both brotha. I mean, I'm a little ticked that they've been feeding off my idea of feeding off of Essorant, gesh, its sugar and the rock and roll music that's been doing this too them. I've tried to tell them to cut their hair, no running in the halls and no bathroom breaks without a pass but they just don't listen. "If the latter is it possible that Essorant has unwittingly become the target of an out of control in-joke?" Well, I hope that's not what Essorant is thinking, I will make myself clear though, in nooooo way is any of what I said meant as a poke at Essorant. And as far as out of control goes....errrr, this ain't a meteor racing towards planet earth....but just in case, perhaps we should call Bruce Willis and Morgan Freeman. "If they are in fact serious critiques but the object of those critics is a simple statement of fact instead of an intended ‘minimalist’ piece of art isn’t it a sign that perhaps some people are unable to differentiate between the two? " A big'ol resounding no. Unable - no, unwilling - yes.....ssaaayyyy, wait a sec, this isn't your flowery way of saying us simple folk are simple, is it? I don't think many here are having trouble seeing if the glass patio door is open....at least not as much as someone else seems to be. "In which case the insightful interpretations are useless as critiques; critiquing a statement as a work of art would be, as one physicist (Feynman??) was apt to remark – “not even wrong.”" Well if art can't be a statement then I don't know what can. Does art not say something about the world the artist lives in? Is not saying something about the world we live in considered a statement...And if art is a statement, then a statement can be art. And if a statement can be art, then a critique upon a statement can be valid...and if a critique is a statement, then it can be art as well....and if the board of directors who deem what is art and what isn't disagree, then I, ruler of my universe, decree that in Trevorville, a statement can be art if it feels like it. And I'm sure Feynman(you spelled it right), wasn't reffering to the appropriateness of critiquing statements...there are times to quote, and times not to...I don't think quoting uncontextual material of a deceased physicist is lending weight to this discussion...careful or I'll have to start citing Woody Allen's opinions "Or are you suggesting that regardless of the original intent the ensuing discussion had merit?" Can you see me touching the tip of my nose? "If that’s true the answer to my original question would be “No, the authors intent is unimportant.” Which seems to infer that the critique is more important than the object of the critique." Can ya see me moving my finger away from my nose? Is learning about poetry and language more, less or equal to writing a poem? "Perhaps the original post was intended as a ‘minimalist piece, if it was and the replies were tongue in cheek would that be classed as ever so slightly condescending?" Yeah, but it still would be a lot less condescending than that last remark. Do you think her post was intended as a minimalistic poem or did she actually delete a poem? Do you think I would do what I'm doing if this was an "actual" poem? Do you think any one who joined in would have if they thought this was meant to be a poem? "Of course if it was a minimalist piece and the replies were of a serious nature" Hey man, I'm a very serious guy when it comes to joking around. Unloosen the tie skip and pour yourself a drink. "feel free to paint me stupid," ...and a smidgen of red, a circle of aqua and a smear of purple...there all done "and accept my apology for once more interrupting this thread" Hey Toad, no apologies necessary, at least not for me. I am only horsing with ya, so don't take my quips as an attack or anything....now I'll tell ya why I commented on Essorant's post... * .moep ym deteled I .yrros m'I deteleD * ....how many versions of that poem has been done by everyone in total? Thanks all, Trevor |
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brian madden Member Elite
since 2000-05-06
Posts 4374ireland |
Trevor, I might be able to tackle the animation for you. It is amazing the most simple thing can spur us poets into the realms of insanity. I remember posting as an experiment a blank thread in the alley, i think, entitled "your comments welcome" it got about 40 replies. THough this is genius. Personally I think there maybe a deeper meaning to this poem, is it a comment on how we make poetic statements then we retarct them and apology fearing that people will not see the true nature of our statement. Is it about self-censoring? Battle not with monsters lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. - Friedrich W. Nietzsche |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hiya all, BRIAN: "Personally I think there maybe a deeper meaning to this poem, is it a comment on how we make poetic statements then we retarct them and apology fearing that people will not see the true nature of our statement. Is it about self-censoring?" Very interesting and insightful commentary Brian. I hope you won't mind if I add on to that thought....is it really self-censoring if we are motivated by others? Is there self-censorship? or are the opinions of the censorees so strong that they can censor even before something is "spoken"? Just a thought, I haven't even formed an opinion on it yet either. It kinda puts my mind in a circular motion. "It is amazing the most simple thing can spur us poets into the realms of insanity. I remember posting as an experiment a blank thread in the alley, i think, entitled "your comments welcome" it got about 40 replies." You should've waited, you probably could've recieved a $50 000 dollar grant from the Canadian gov't. I remember reading in the paper that a Canadian artist living in Paris once recieved that amount to replicate goldfish swimming on a large digital canvas....oh well, I'll guess I'll tell Mr. Jones why there is no money to pay for his kidney transplant...but he can watch the fishy while he's hooked up to his dialysis machine But I agree with you and think its great that you posted "your comments welcome" and got so much feedback on it. It is amazing how much can be done with the simplest of things and that was the point of my replies...though done in a tongue and cheek manner. When I first read the post, I thought it would be interesting to treat it as a "real" poem and pick at the structure, investigate the use of her words. Be a bit more critical than usual to a simple statement. Then I thought it would be fun to see how I could rearrange its structure in a poetic way...trying to form new poems from that one simple statement....and as I had hoped, others joined in. And blammmo! Now we get to see that even the littlest of things can be formed so many different ways and be interpretted as so many other things....such is the marvelous world of language. I don't know about anyone else but I find it incredibly fascinating that everyone who joined in found an original way to restate the original post by Essorant.Anyways Brian, glad you joined in, thanks, Trevor |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Trevor my man...where do I get my hands on that there book of satan? Sheesh, I need enlightening! It was really a toss up between your interpretation and Radrooks..but yours just sounded like so much more fun (no offense Rad..) I mean...what could be more fun than stealing lollies and a world that's all about me??? Hm...Toad, I feel compelled to address your comments in all seriousness. We haven't heard from Essorant no. I also think that Essorant had a poem up, and deleted it for personal reasons of his or her own. The resulting spate of critiques have obviously been light-hearted. I think however that they are most certainly not a collaboration that form an 'in house' joke. There is nothing in house about it, actually. What we have all done is take one line and treated it like any other offering in the CA forum. I don't understand how any possible offense could be offered to Essorant but I think your concern in that area is admirable. Now, that said - my own minimalist interpretations can be taken at face value. I saw a line that became to me, art - whether it was originally intended that way or not. And I analysed that line from a critical basis, while having fun at the same time... One must always remember, I think, that poetry is always subjective and what the author originally intends doesn't always transmit to the reader. K |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hello, MISS K: "Trevor my man...where do I get my hands on that there book of satan? Sheesh, I need enlightening!" Cereal packets, collect fifteen Corn Flake tops and send them to Satan. To get a hold of the Dark Lord just run a red light, say a few four letter words and think of doing something evil like switching around tapes at a video store and *Shazaaam!* He shall appear....my advice to you is just give him the tops for the book as quickly as possible and limit the small talk or he'll start bantering about his family problems and how his father didn't hug him enough and didn't support his decision to be a dentist.... "It was really a toss up between your interpretation and Radrooks..but yours just sounded like so much more fun (no offense Rad..) I mean...what could be more fun than stealing lollies and a world that's all about me???" Ahhhh, the devil wins again. Here's your plastic red horns, t-shirt and VIP pass to the "hottest" night spot in the netherworld. And Severn, its nice and flattering to hear you would want to live in a world that is all about me. That is what you said isn't it? "Toad, I feel compelled to address your comments in all seriousness. We haven't heard from Essorant no." I personally wish she would have joined in. I mean she is the unintentional inspiration behind all of this and it would have been interesting to see what she would do with her own words. Ah vell, zuch is life ya? Well, I'm glad you had fun too....see Toad, I'm not the only twisted individual here...go pick on her for awhile Thanks Sev., Trevor |
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brian madden Member Elite
since 2000-05-06
Posts 4374ireland |
Hi Trevor, whenever there is insanity you can bet i would join the party, now this book of satin is it the same as the satanic bible, cos there was no reference to McDonalds in the latter. Though, Mcdonalds always had that kind of creepy vibe. Any business that uses a pale faced clown with stoned eyes and a yellow jump suit has to be suspect. Battle not with monsters lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. - Friedrich W. Nietzsche |
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Toad Member
since 2002-06-16
Posts 161 |
There’s nothing wrong with a little light hearted fun, to tell you the truth I was tempted to post a similar reply when I first read this post but Trevor beat me to it. What made me change my mind and post the suggestion of how to get the thread deleted was a post in the Suggestion Box forum. quote: The author of that post was Essorant and the word that prompted my initial post in this thread was “Embarrassed”. I may be completely wrong and this may not be one of the posts in question but if it was it seemed to me that the, albeit innocent, jocular nature of the replies by this forums regular contributors may compound the initial embarrassment, perhaps to a point where Essorant avoided this forum altogether. All of the above is of course complete conjecture on my part, I hope I’ve put two and two together and reached a conclusion that is “not even wrong”. I also hope that Essorant replies to this thread, taking all the posts in the light hearted good nature in which they were undoubtedly posted and in consequence paints me any shade of stupid that Trevor may have missed (yellow suits me btw )[This message has been edited by Toad (09-06-2002 06:45 PM).] |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
ah. Gotcha. Well I honestly hope that this post inspires Essorant not to be embarrassed at all...see how much productivity a 'mistake' has wrought - how much fun, how much unity... it's all good, it's all good.. |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hello all, TOAD: "There’s nothing wrong with a little light hearted fun." Well I'm glad that "fun" has been ok'ed by you, finally we can all start enjoying ourselves, break out the watermellon vodka bowl....I'm kidding of course, everyone knows that I'm a whiskey man. "to tell you the truth I was tempted to post a similar reply when I first read this post but Trevor beat me to it." Throw off your shackles of imprisonment poor fellow. You should have posted, then I could'a played the bad guy. Good cop - Bad cop, its the oldest trick in the book "The author of that post was Essorant and the word that prompted my initial post in this thread was “Embarrassed”." Well I don't know why she would be embarrased of this post....look at all its inspired...and its finally brought me out of my shell, I was so timid to post, to comment, to speak my mind freely and now I finally feel free to express myself openly. "albeit innocent, jocular nature of the replies by this forums regular contributors may compound the initial embarrassment, perhaps to a point where Essorant avoided this forum altogether." Well if this is the case then I'd like to say that she is taking this whole thing far too serious. I can only avoid walking on so many eggshells....but I will still gladly apologize if she's felt grief over this. "which they were undoubtedly posted and in consequence paints me any shade of stupid that Trevor may have missed (yellow suits me btw)" I'm glad you've taken all my little quips as light hearted and weren't offended by them. I'm sure I come off as a bit of an ass sometimes and I'm glad you could play along. You have certainly been a good sport about the whole thing and I appreciate that and apologize if any of it was too out of line. And like I've said earlier, I too hope she will reply to this post....nothing better than hearing from the author. Thanks, Trevor [This message has been edited by Trevor (09-07-2002 07:09 PM).] |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Hello, I just want to let you all know I haven't been offended by any comments here of, but just keeping aloof. I've been really down of late and can't even think very coherently let alone speak and respond as I wish to. But it still cheered me up right here to read all your speculation and thought toward my poem. It was probably the best thing I've ever written Thank you.Hope to be back soon. take care, Essorant [This message has been edited by Essorant (09-07-2002 05:02 PM).] |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
"It lives, it speaks!" Hi Essorant, I'm glad you weren't offended by the whole thingy. "I've been really down of late and can't even think very coherently let alone speak and respond as I wish to." Buck up little camper Do what I do when I'm feeling a little low....tease Toad a bit. "But it still cheered me up right here to read all your speculation and thought toward my poem. It was probably the best thing I've ever written" Actually I think the best poem you ever wrote was the little piece entitled "Essorant" * "Essorant Member since 08-10-2002 Posts 116 Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada" * Shall I critique it? Anyways, glad to hear from ya and find out your opinion on the whole thing, hope you feel in better spirits soon, take care, Trevor [This message has been edited by Trevor (09-07-2002 07:13 PM).] |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Now how can you be down when you have Trevor to laugh at...er, with? But it's good to see you approve of our little offerings... K |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hello, Ahem, Severn.....I said tease Toad, not Trevor...you know I'm the sensitive poetry type...what's wrong with you, have you no heart you cruel and vicious woman?!?! "But it's good to see you approve of our little offerings..." I think she was referring to my posts and not yours Missy! In fact I think she's still a little ticked at you... "But it still cheered me up right here to read all your speculation and thought toward my poem." Seee...she didn't say "all OF your", but she said "all your", meaning "ALL TREVOR'S" ...in fact I think it's been you who's been bringing her down lately. Essorant, please forgive her, she knows not what she does. I |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
 I need not say anything, I have a heart indeed toward the delusional heh K |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Well in a nutty place like this you have too, I mean you have people playing fantasy land and giving themselves make believe names like Essorant, Not a Poet, UK Hero, Radrook, Toad, and strangest of all....Severn. Mr. T |
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Not A Poet Member Elite
since 1999-11-03
Posts 3885Oklahoma, USA |
Are you implying that Trevor is a real name? Mwaahaahaa |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
"Are you implying that Trevor is a real name?" Well we already know that I'm dellusional so I don't think I'd be able to truthfully answer that questing because I'm not too sure what is real and what isn't...I mean sometimes I think my name is actually Treyfer, Treever, Tr'pher, t-rev-ir, or Omar Sharif. And there ya go changing your name again Pete... "Mwaahaahaa"...do you mind if I just shorten it too Mwaa? Omar |
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Severn Member Rara Avis
since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704 |
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh!!!!!! Do I get to be Legolas?????!!! Why pine when I can be??? Leg |
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Sunshine
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
I was beginning to think you all scared Essorant off with your varying ways of wit and charm, not to mention interpersonal dialogues. My own suggestion was going to be "done gone". I'm glad to see that Essorant has so graciously allowed all of you to have such fun with this... write on! |
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Trevor Senior Member
since 1999-08-12
Posts 700Canada |
Hello all, Hello Legolas and welcome to Critical Analysis....wait a sec. you look kinda familiar...are you sure we haven't met before?....perhaps it was on the fab-o-lous new ride at Disney called "Mr. Toad's Terrible Terror-f'ing Tirade" Toad, you know I'm kidding of course, they would never allow such a dangerous ride at Disney Hello Sunshine, "I was beginning to think you all scared Essorant off with your varying ways of wit and charm, not to mention interpersonal dialogues" We tried our best to scare her off but the woman's much braver than she looks. Maybe a spin on that new Disney ride will fix her wagon. "My own suggestion was going to be "done gone"." And the list of variations grow. Vell done heir frueline....what'da vant, I can barely schpell English lit alon zee German. "I'm glad to see that Essorant has so graciously allowed all of you to have such fun with this..." Well if she didn't comply we were going to send the lego girl to Saskatchewan so she could straighten out a curve named Essorant....cat-fight, "meow!" said the dog Thanks, Mr. Hurlyknot [This message has been edited by Trevor (09-09-2002 09:35 PM).] |
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Muys Member
since 2002-04-06
Posts 389The Netherlands |
I D E l  ET E D My poem to  Muys |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Graces. Where did you get the butterfly? I like it |
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