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0 posted 2011-12-07 09:22 PM



Vacation is over...

The Envelope couplet has the first and last line using the same refrain which starts and completes the stanzas of that poem. The second and fifth line of each stanza rhyme with the refrain lines. This leaves only the centre couplet to change its rhyme.

I love it here at P.I.P.
It lights the inner fire in me.
When there is no one else around
And no kind faces can be found
I know where friends will always be.
I love it here at P.I.P.


Ok. I know I'm starting of rather easy but I want to make sure you all remember what good meter is. Show me...

Use as many 6-line stanzas as you like.

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Winter clouds the sun
As dark oppresses light
Ice paintings tat the trees
Bends branches to their knees
Each etched in black and white
Winter clouds the sun

Captivated by the dark
The day light will not come
It lingers in bed way too late
And longs for darkness to abate
It dreams of summer sun
Captivated by the dark

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2 posted 2011-12-07 11:02 PM


Nice to see you, Alison, and thanks for joining in first!!!!

Now read the instructions again and be the first to do it right!! LOL!

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3 posted 2011-12-07 11:23 PM


Damn.  There are directions?!?


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4 posted 2011-12-08 01:03 AM


As winter ice chills the light
Dark hued curtains smother bright
Ice paintings then freeze the trees
As branches bend to their knees
Forever etched black and white
As winter ice chills the light

When darkened shadows steal the sun
When morning shimmer light succumbs
A hopeful dream that cannot sate
It longs for darkness to abate
And prays that winter comes undone
When darkened shadows steal the sun

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5 posted 2011-12-08 08:11 AM


Atta girl..you're always a quick study

In the spirit of stating how teachers are always hardest on the students they admire the most, now you just need to clean up the meter in two lines

Ice paintings then freeze the trees
As branches bend to their knees

They blow the meter, which is perfect in all other lines.

ICE PAINT-ings then FREEZE the TREES
as BRANCHes BEND to their KNEES

You have taken them down to 7 syllables instead of 8. Yes, in line two of the first stanza you did the same but, beginning the line trochaic, it can become implied iambic which makes it ok. The ICE PAINTing line begins with a spondee, not a trochee so it throws the rhythm off. In the second line, it's iambic, minus one long syllable.

Nor sure how to fix the first line, since ICE PAINTings is not reparable. You would need a different thought, something like...


(trochaic - implied iambic)
WInter's paintings freeze the trees
Bending branches to their knees.

or

(iambic)
Ice paint of winter freezes trees
As branches bend down to their knees.

Hey, just like old times, Alison! Love ya!

(I shall now go outside and check my branches for knees)

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6 posted 2011-12-08 02:36 PM


As winter ice chills the light
Dark hued curtains smother bright
Frosted paintings cover trees
Bending branches to bared knees
Forever etched black and white
As winter ice chills the light

When darkened shadows steal the sun
When morning shimmer light succumbs
A hopeful dream that cannot sate
It longs for darkness to abate
And prays that winter comes undone
When darkened shadows steal the sun

----

I think I have it now.  I think.

Michael, thank you for not taking it easy on me.  I have grown a lot with your help and I want to continue that growth.  I can't do it if you sugar coat my efforts.  Thank you for all the time that you take with me.

xooxxo
Alison


[This message has been edited by Alison (12-08-2011 03:17 PM).]

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7 posted 2011-12-08 05:35 PM


Very good, Alison! For a moment I had a small problem with..

Forever etched black and white
As winter ice chills the light

because you killed the iambic with the two accented syllables together.

etched black
ice chills

but, since you did the same thing on both lines of the couplet, it's acceptable.

That's what I love about you. You never give up

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8 posted 2011-12-08 11:32 PM


Dear 'deer,

Thank you.  Did you find the knees on the branches of your trees?  If you look reallly close, you'll see them.  Honest.  

I love that you got the classes going again.  I am going to put my poem in Open Poetry, and do a plug for the class.

It's fun.

Alison

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9 posted 2011-12-09 12:30 PM


Alison,
Well now, I think your poem is just the trees bees of poetry, or something to that effect, lol.
Doc

I'm gonna jump right in here and throw this one out ( big surprise ).

I must try to contain my joy
a proper vessel to employ
a tanker ship might do the trick
but if the captain got sea sick
he might run it aground, ahoy!
I must try to contain my joy

I must retain my cool aplomb
and not explode like an h-bomb
Vacation's over! Deer is back!
To give us what this workshop lacked!
Oh, hey, but seriously,"Mom"
I must retain my cool aplomb

I'll never let on that I care
unless I slip up unaware
about this course or Balladeer
oops, may have done just that I fear
I'd rather brave his baleful stare
I'll never let on that I care

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10 posted 2011-12-09 12:58 PM


Nice, doc. Now read the instructions and get your ship on course.
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11 posted 2011-12-09 02:31 PM


Balladeer
Welcome back, gotcha, I am so used to saying PIP instead of P, I, P, I  misinterpreted your example on which I based my write  ( not the directions, which I have read now ). See, that's why you needed to get back here, directions, who would've thought...
Doc

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12 posted 2011-12-09 02:36 PM


I did the same thing, Doc, with P I P.  Read pip instead of the initials.  Our Balladeer is a tricky one!


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13 posted 2011-12-09 02:44 PM


Yes, indeed he is Alison, and, not only that but he expects us to actually read the directions, can you imagine?

Doc

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14 posted 2011-12-09 03:48 PM


Go figure!  He's a wiley wabbit!
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15 posted 2011-12-09 05:34 PM


Eternal vigilance is the key

Nice revision, doc. You haven't lost a thing..

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16 posted 2011-12-12 09:23 AM


Balladeer,
Thank you m'friend, with the exception of a few more marbles that's good to know, lol.
Doc

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17 posted 2012-06-19 09:33 PM


My journal’s feeling light these days,
without the weight of words in ink.
Ten months and not a half is filled,
the empty pages left un-thrilled;
it’s time to write and not to think.
My journal’s feeling light these days.

-Amber

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18 posted 2012-06-20 12:21 PM


I like the poem, Amber!

It deviated from the instructions, though.

The second and fifth line of each stanza rhyme with the refrain lines.

That means that the second line must rhyme with the first and the second to last line rhymes with the last, thus completing the envelope.

Thanks for joining in!

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19 posted 2012-09-10 01:22 PM


Who doesn’t delight  in a bad cliché?  
An overused metaphor some might say
“Dead as a doornail” but “easy as pie”
to work on a poem and not really try
I’d like to know “at the end of the day”
Who doesn’t delight in a bad cliché?


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20 posted 2012-09-10 01:23 PM


Who doesn’t delight  in a bad cliché?  
An overused metaphor some might say
“Dead as a doornail” but “easy as pie”
to work on a poem and not really try
I’d like to know “at the end of the day”
Who doesn’t delight in a bad cliché?


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21 posted 2012-11-13 12:10 PM


Hmm I don't know if it's going with the flow, but I shall give it my all.

(A Women's Fury)
In the distance storm clouds gather
No calm, no peace in this matter
She bares cold rain and heavy hail
Bashing, smashing a tearful wail
Oh do not dare try to flatter
In the distance storm clouds gather

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22 posted 2012-11-13 07:48 PM


LOLOL! Good work, Ken.....and, oh, so very true!!
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23 posted 2012-11-15 12:22 PM


Thank you I'm glad you like it. I'm happy it came out nicely...it was fun to write it.
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24 posted 2013-01-27 12:50 PM


I stumbled upon this thread again and realized I never gave this poem a second whirl! So here's a new try entirely.

The years are passing in a blink
They’re gone before I’ve time to think
The curls have fallen from my hair
and “new-ish” jeans sport worn-out tears
As days go by, they start to shrink
The years are passing in a blink

-Amber

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25 posted 2014-02-04 08:02 PM


Haven't written a single line in years, so why not give it a whirl...

Why has your embrace disappeared
With its absence I'm filled with fear
The warmth of your touch quickly fled
My heart seems lifeless, almost dead
Waiting, praying, hoping for you dear
Why has your embrace disappeared

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26 posted 2014-02-21 08:42 PM


Sounded like fun, so here's my contribution:

I sang of sixpence as a child
    The song made all the girls go wild
Just one standard was all it took
    No great need for a music book
When I wanted the girls to smile
    I sang of sixpence as a child


...just bein' Bluesy

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27 posted 2014-02-22 07:43 AM


Double post edit by Bluesy

[This message has been edited by Bluesy Socrateaser (02-22-2014 10:03 AM).]

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28 posted 2014-02-23 02:28 AM


It's great to see someone posting here and working on assignments again. I think you both for the effort. You both followed the construction of the lines and rhymes in an acceptable manner....BUT you must also use good meter to make the poem flow. If you are not familiar with poetic meter, you can find it discusses in this forum in earlier lessons.

Nichole, I'm not sure what meter you chose but try this..
"My heart seems lifeless, almost dead"
That line is perfect! Take note of where the accented syllables are and duplicate that meter in the other lines and you will have an excellent poem!


Bluesy....you are very close. You used the iambic which was perfect for all but two lines. Change those lines to fit the others and you have a real winner here! I'l show you the changes that I would make and perhaps you will see what I mean..


I sang of sixpence as a child
The song made all the girls go wild
One standard tune was all it took
No great need for a music book
To please the girls and make them smile
I sang of sixpence as a child


Thank you both for coming by!

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29 posted 2014-03-10 04:35 AM


Stepped on a riser while playing the crowd
I asked them if they liked it loud
They all said "Boomer, you bend those strings
Bend them 'til the fat lady sings"
So I scratched my Strat and played it loud
Stepped on a riser while playing the crowd


This may be 'bending' it a little. I'm blaming it on DST which occurred tonight. So help me out when you can.

Thanks!




One ladle serves the soup that feeds the mouths of the many. Is there one in your hand?

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30 posted 2014-03-10 05:53 PM


Nice, Boomer! I can hear this being recited. It's interesting that you used several different styles here. You have iambic lines, trochaic lines, anapestic ones...the whole bit. The good thing is you follow the meter through the whole line with all of them...two exceptions...the extra word "you", unnecessary, in the third line and the "fat lady" in the next. The "you" can simply be knocked out but you want to use that phrase, and it's a good one, so it stays. As I said, reciting it out out would make it perfect. Some poems are like that.

Yes, DST has shot down many men...but it's better than STD!

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31 posted 2014-03-12 01:20 AM


Thanks for checking out my offering Balladeer!

(Gotcha on the 'DST' inversion and you couldn't be more right! I'd sooner wake an hour earlier than wake up two hours earlier yanking pipes out of the wall!)

One ladle serves the soup that feeds the mouths of the many. Is there one in your hand?

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32 posted 2014-04-03 09:44 AM


Well, I see I have been missing out on some poetry classes.
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33 posted 2014-04-15 11:39 AM


Here's one I posted awhile back...Don't think any made the connection (my fault). So, anyways, here it is here on the challenge that originated the poem.  Thank you, -Bob


Painted Ladies of San Francisco Envelope Couplets


Amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls
that make a narrow path and boundless curl
with ornamental flavor and with frills
about the open bosom, so the hills
extended once toward heaven have been hurled
amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls.


Amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls,
Saint Francis now adorned for all the world
sits leisurely excluded on the bay
with cable cars and Castro District gays
who once were boys but now have changed to girls
amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls.


Amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls,
the fog supports Embarcadero swirls
of visionary suits who've come to be
the melting pot of all society
wherein does modern industries unfurl
amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls.


Amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls,
a homeless watches Golden Gate Park squirrels
just down the street from Haight-Ashbury flops
where ‘Heaven's not so far away' is plopped
and psychedelic wheels of love will whirl
amongst the Painted Ladies dressed like pearls.


Painted Ladies = Victorian style homes /pip/Forum113/HTML/003105.html  /pip/Forum113/HTML/003112.html  

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34 posted 2014-04-16 06:17 AM


Good Morrow, Monsieur Balladeer,
This actor's here and brings good cheer;
I tracked away, but now I'm back
No slacker I, I will attack,
And practice verse and feel no fear,
Good Morrow, Monsieur Balladeer!
  
I've been away a while, but just getting back into the versification thingy all over again, time for a bit of fun!

For those that don't know me, I'm Al, and for those that do, sorry it's been so long...

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35 posted 2014-04-16 08:28 PM


Well, Lighthousebob, as chief cook and bottle-washer of this here forum, it's my job to critique the poems and point out areas that might use a little tweaking or improvement. You make that a little difficult because there ain't none!

I would not change a word, a syllable or a letter of this poem. The form  is exact, the flow exceptional, and you give the poem the perfect flavor of the ambiance you describe. The wordplay and lines are extremely clever.

I'm sorry I missed it the first time but I am very glad you brought it back. It falls into my "I wish I had written that" category. Excellent work, friend.

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36 posted 2014-04-16 08:39 PM


Good morrow, Al. We welcome your return.
It's nice of you to stop by here to learn
But I see very little to improve
In my view, you're already in the groove
You've written nothing I would care to spurn
Good morrow, Al. We welcome your return.

Oklahoma Rose
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37 posted 2014-11-21 07:31 PM


I can see I have missed a lot.
It seems to me I should be over the passing of my parents, but I'm not. My life has been in a lot of turmoil, since they passed away.

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38 posted 2016-02-10 03:06 AM


For winter’s end could not be swayed
and ghostly breaths are quick to fade
as prickly snowflakes melt mid-air
The seasons change without a care
spring is near, yes this I have prayed
For winter’s end could not be swayed.

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