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Dr.Moose1
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In my travels with the "Wayback" machine I stumbled across what many consider to be the most "obscure" form of poetry, the "Chain Verse".
Not to be confused with "Alice in Chains", the "Chain Pickerel", or the infamous "Chain Letter"( although if you don't hand in this assignment, myriad bad things will likely befall you ).
Of the most commonly quoted examples, the first, attributed to my ancestor, Anon E. Moose, repeats
the last word (or two) of each line as the beginning of the next line. The second example by some lesser known poet (John Byrom) repeats the entire last line of each stanza as the beginning of the next.

"Nerve thy soul with doctrines noble,
Noble in the the walks of time,
Time that leads to an eternal
An eternal life sublime.

Life sublime in mortal beauty,
Beauty that shall never be,
Ever be to lure thee onward,
Onward to the fountain free.

Free to every earnest thinker,
Seeker for the fount of youth,
Youth exultant in it's beauty,
Beauty of the living truth."

Anon.

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John Byrom

"My spirit longeth for thee
Within my troubled breast,
Although I be unworthy
Of so divine a guest.

Of so divine a guest,
Unworthy though I be
Yet has my heart no rest,
Unless it comes from thee.

Unless it comes from thee
In vain I look around,
In all that I can see,
No rest is to be found.

No rest is to be found
But in thy blessed love,
Oh let my wish be crowned,
And send it from above."

Our teacher, Balladeer, has graciously allowed me to contribute this assignment, so mind your P's and Q's, put your best appendage forward, and lets see some creativity. I will, of course, defer to Balladeer when it comes to grading. Have fun!
Doc

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1 posted 03-02-2011 03:25 PM       View Profile for Alison   Email Alison   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alison

I'll do it but not because you can make me.  I only listen to Balladeer - and the call of the wild, the dinner bell and the voices in my head.

Okay - and you.

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Alison,
Lol, I eagerly await your poetically poignant penning of profound perspective pertaining to this perspicacious endeavor,
(Phew)!
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I found a thing I like
Like many poets do.
Do different forms delight you?
You, then, may like it, too!

A conachlonn, it's called,
Called by the Celts that way.
Way to connect the lines,
Lines chain-linked in display.

The last word of each line
Lines up to lead the next.
Next time you want to try,
Try not to be perplexed!

So show me what you've got.
Got time to give a try?
Try not to give up soon
Soon you will write like I!!!

http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=93&topic=003116

Always good to give a refresher course, Doc!
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Balladeer,
At first I wondered how I ever missed this assignment, then followed your link to "Open Poetry 36" which explains why.
Interesting fact that it's roots are tracable to Celtic history where it was called "Clonachlonn", but of course you would know that, lol. Also, further research reveals, the rules are not as strict as repeating the whole word verbatim as in example #1, but merely the vowel sound.
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True enough, Doc. Yes, back then the workshop wasn't really active and I remember now posting it in Open. I'm crushed to think you don't read my Open entries ....hehe

Yes, a lot of liberties can be taken with the form. I remember that I spent a little time trying to use words with the same sound but different meanings to construct it....talk about a toughie! Something like..

I found the perfect girl to marry.
Merry were my youthful days,
Dazed by strong desire to bed her,
Better I had changed my ways.

I may try that again....
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Balladeer,
Lol, actually I've read most if not all of your Open entries ( as with a number of poets here) I'm just not much when it comes to commenting on others works. I'd like to see your take on this, and I'm sure no one would mind your participation, I'm just not sure who would do the "grading". Oh, by the way, is one of those "liberties" where you don't have to use the last word of each stanza as the first word of the next?
Doc

My "contribution" as it were...

It was here a sec ago, and now it's gone,
Gone as if some hidden hand had thrown a switch
Which explains why writing this is tough to do,
Do the rules all still apply if you've no clue?

Clue me in, oh fickle Muse, where has it gone?
Gone the way night dissipates with coming dawn?
Dawns anew another day but still is lost,
Lost as if into the void it had been tossed!

Tossed and turned a broken chain within my mind,
Mindful of what had been lost, those missing links,
Links now found thanks to a muse, sometimes their kind,
Kind of helps your chain of thought work out its kinks.

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I am going to have to integrate this boy's club of two - have some work to do around the house and will be back (after I am done scratching my head over linking words).

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Doc, I think one of those liberties is that one can use same-sounding, different words, like

Now I pay the cost
Lost as I may be
Be afraid of losing
Choosing victory.

As far as your entry is concerned, I have a problem with it. First, I can detect no common meter. If you check your examples given in your first post, you will see they used consistent meter. Without it, your poem is quite hard to read

Second, I have a problem with the changing rhyme scheme. Your three stanzas are:

a-b-c-c
a-a-b-b
a-b-a-b

This adds to making your poem hard to follow.

On the bright side, you chain very well!
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9 posted 03-04-2011 05:39 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Disregard my comment, doc, about the meter. I found the scheme you  were using and it works well...my mistake!
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Alison,
Nope, no "Boys Club", we're just waitin' on some other participants, like maybe you?

Doc

Balladeer,
Thanks, as for meter, yeah I threw in a twist, 3,4,4, per line,  and skewed the rhyme scheme intentionally. Hey, bringing one of the most enduring forms of poetry
into todays light, I thought deserved no less.
Hard to follow ? Just imagine William Shatner reading this, and it will all fall into place, lol.
And, I'm still going to call you on your repost, as
none of your stanzas ending words contain the same vowel sound as the next stanzas beginning words.

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...and a good call it is, doc. I had concentrated on the lines of the stanzas but not the connecting stanzas themselves. Good catch on your part.....
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Okay, okay, I rose like a phoenix from frozen pipes - and gave it a shot.




When the wind cries to the sea
Sea gull screams drown out her fears
Fears once dormant in her breast
Her breast covered now with tears.

Tears that slide from hidden eyes
Eyes that begged once to be blind
Blind to loss, to death, to dreams
Dreams now distant, out of mind

Mind the wind and thrashing tides
Tides erase all signs of life
Life that died in winter storm
Storms that cut like sharpest knife

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Ah, dear Alison. Elusive as you are, you do know how to make an entrance. I knew you would have no problem with this....and you didn't. Fine writing, miss
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Awww, dear Balladeer, thank you, my friend.  Let's see how the Moose Man grades it.  I appreciate you both.

xoxoxo
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Alison,
No, no , no, I don't do grading! If I did , however, you'd get top marks from me. Nice read, good subject matter and story line, well executed. Oh, and glad to see you're doing your part to dispel the notion that class has devolved into some kind of "Boys Club", lol.
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not even a boy's club any longer,,,,more like a deer's club since no one will even attempt meter.....deer can be lonely beasts, for sure.
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Thank you, Moose and 'Deer.  I will move on to meter.



Love this "not for boys only" club

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To combine this with the post on Meterology (form described below):

Red nectar from a bottle that's from France
France, where Englishmen will holiday;
Will holiday, enjoy the sun and dance,
Dance as wild abandoned men away;
A way through dreary days at a desk;
Desk of hate, back in London grotesque.

Grotesque that we must earn a pound to eat,
Eating, drinking, life comes at a cost,
A cost to dignity and balance sheet,
Balance sheet of life at work that's lost:
Lost's the time that we work and not live;
And not live; and not live; and not live.

Form:

d'Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'DAY,
Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'BEE,
d'Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'DAY,
Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'Dum, d'BEE,
d'd'Dum, d'd'Dum, d'd'CEE,
d'd'Dum, d'd'Dum, d'd'CEE,
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Well done, AlCowie!

We have another member who likes to combine lessons and create poems relating to both at the same time. Quite the coincidence
 
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