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50 posted 08-22-2009 04:09 AM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Rileigh, you are entitled to share your thoughts here, don't worry.

I like the poem.  I like the way you have injected the nautical pointers into it and I like the phraseology, such as the nonself to God. I also like the theme you are promoting. I can understand where the "Millionaire's Captain" is something you want to get in, but that phrase just doesn't work for me, poetically, and I don't know how to rearrange it to make it work....or maybe it does work for you and I'm the one with the problem. That's always possible
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51 posted 08-22-2009 10:38 AM       View Profile for Marc-Andre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marc-Andre

Rileigh, your comments are greatly welcome with me. I see what you mean about the enjambments, and I will consider it. Part of the exercise I’ve given myself here is to write as perfect a Petrarchan sonnnet as possible without it reading like one.

Balladeer, thanks for the continuous support. It’s a big bite I’ve taken here, and I am still chewing. “Millionaire’s Captain”, which was his actual nickname at the times, cannot possibly fit without a trochaic substitution. And as it is a verbatim appellation, I hesitate in changing it only to fit the meter. Perhaps I am less of a purist than you are, as I will allow myself a few metrical substitutions in a piece. I do have my self-imposed restrictions in their use though. Here’s another revision, gone is Canberra and the Café Parisien for words that should scan better. I’ve also made a few other changes, exploring a fuller range of the sailor vocabulary.

Revision Four

I met a sailor from a dated era
who boasted to deserting flocks of drunk
riffraff about the silver in his trunk        
and his Olympian consort, christened Sarah.
Myself mere flotsam stranded on Madeira,
marooned within the pub below my bunk,
I pitied this old gob, his fortunes sunk
in rum, and squired but by his own Chimera.

“My name is Edward Smith, the ‘Millionaire
Captain! And I still claim that God himself      
can’t sink my ship!” The band, his Turkish bath
and libraries are sunk. Unrigged for fair,
this Satan’s Job, this cast away nonself
to God, must tread an ever sloping path.
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52 posted 08-22-2009 03:43 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

That's excellent work and changes in the first stanza, Marc! I like them...

As far as allowing metrical substitutions, that's what they call "poetic license".
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53 posted 08-23-2009 12:05 AM       View Profile for Marc-Andre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marc-Andre

Thanks Balladeer. Poetic license...I believe this must be earned, that all substitutions must be "unavoidable", in the sense that avoiding it would diminish the poem in both sound and meaning. "Captain" will probably have to stay, but I'm trying to bring the substitutions to the bare minimum. The other two I see are "Olympian" and "riffraff", which I could replace but I do not want to use a filler adjective between drug and perhaps "scum". Or would it be better to start that line on a headless iamb. I'll keep thinking. Surely in the ocean of 650,000 English words, I'll fish one that will be right. I won't let go of it until it's as perfect as can be.

Again, thanks for your time and support. I am still learning a lot from you.
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54 posted 08-23-2009 12:09 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Here are a few thoughts for you to consider. Yes, I added a line but it's just fiddlin' around, looking for ideas...

"My name is Edward Smith, my hearties
'Captain to the Millionaires!' and I still swear
No man alive or even God himself
Can sink my ship!" The band, the lavish parties,
And libraries are sunk. Unrigged for fair,
this Satan’s Job, this cast away nonself
to God, must tread an ever sloping path.
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55 posted 08-23-2009 01:29 PM       View Profile for Marc-Andre   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marc-Andre

Thanks Balladeer, I like the idea of adding "no men alive" and I'll sure try to have it fit within the sestet.
 
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