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LadyWolf
Junior Member
since 2000-04-15
Posts 12


0 posted 2000-04-28 06:14 PM


You can't take away our words of expression
or our freedom to say how we feel
we can write about suicide and what it feels
we can write about how someone violated our
bodies and made us feel dirty and shameful
for who we are.
We can write about anything and everything
as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else
but we write how we feel and most of the
time that's how others feel too.
It's our right to write about
what we feel and you can't
tell us what to write or how to write it
It's our right.


 On the Avenue of Life,
don't forget to take
the Taxi once in awhile.


© Copyright 2000 LadyWolf - All Rights Reserved
Marilyn
Member Elite
since 1999-09-26
Posts 2621
Ontario, Canada
1 posted 2000-04-28 10:01 PM


We at Passions have never, will never and would never want to restrict what you write. What we can and will do (because it is our right) is restrict what you can post here in Ron's forum. Ron, our generous host, has invited us here to share our writings. He has asked us little in return. We do not have to pay for the honor to post in his home. We do not have to give up the rights to our work that we post here. All he asks of us is to follow a few guidelines.

This is Ron's home, he created it, he pays for it and he keeps it running smoothly. He has asked a few respected friends to help him keep this place friendly and running smoothly. We do our jobs in our free time (which is sparce for most of us).

All we ask is that you wipe your feet on the mat at the door and you respect this place as Ron's home. He asks you not to swear, not to say vulgar and offensive things and to keep the violence out of his home. If we do not wish to do these things then we will be asked to leave, just as we would be if we were accually in his house. If anyone does not like the guidelines we follow here, they are free to find some place where there are no guidelines. I can guarentee the atmosphere of those boards are not even close to what we have here. What we are dealing with here is respect of another person's space. Please respect that.

Thankyou,

Marilyn.


Alwye
Moderator
Member Elite
since 1999-06-16
Posts 3850
In the space between moments
2 posted 2000-04-28 10:41 PM


I agree wholeheartedly with Marilyn.  All Ron asks for is respect and to follow the very reasonable guidlines that he has constructed. The least we as members of this forum can do is follow his wishes.  For look what he has given us.  A wonderful home, a place to speak with friends, with kin, and to share the love of poetry we all possess.  

 *Krista Knutson*

"Lonliness is the human condition."
*Mark Twain, in the book "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"*

Munda
Member Elite
since 1999-10-08
Posts 3544
The Hague, The Netherlands
3 posted 2000-04-29 10:27 AM


LadyWolf,

I do agree with the above. We are a guest in Ron's house and the least we can do is honour the house rules, just as you would like your visitors to honour yours.
May I please ask you to check out the Alley ?
At least it will give you a better idea of what is happening.

Munda

Nan
Administrator
Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-20
Posts 21191
Cape Cod Massachusetts USA
4 posted 2000-04-29 11:14 AM


My dear young LadyWolf

I think it would be wise of you to review the forum guidelines.  YOU agreed to these, or you would not be posting here.  Take some time to read what you have promised us here at Passions.

I really do not approve of protests that are written in pseudo-poetic format, but I'll leave this post here in teen simply because I'd like each and every person in this forum to read its responses.  The moderators in these forums are committed to upholding these very reasonable forum standards.  You and your fellow teenage poets are duty bound to adhere to them.  There will be NO posts left in this forum that glorify violence or suicide, without exception.  

son of man
Member
since 2000-04-25
Posts 125

5 posted 2000-04-29 08:52 PM


indeed, our home here is a great place, and we cannot allow it to be tarnished with the filth of violence. who wants to wade through garbage?
ron is due the respect of the housemaster, and his regulations must be met in order to maintain peaceful relations among our fellow members and not infringe upon their right to come to a place of beauty and peace.
   we should be grateful for this place, and should adhere to rons rules. this place has little restriction, but for what its value is, i myself would conform to even greater limitations.

 

LadyWolf
Junior Member
since 2000-04-15
Posts 12

6 posted 2000-04-29 09:25 PM


It would seem though that many people don't share my opinion. Which is all right. And I'm not disrespecting our gracious host, Ron, for letting us share the gifts of writing that we possess.
I never meant to create a rift in the peacefulness of our little section of the forums, my main point of writing my so called "pseudo-poetry" was to stress the fact that teenage life isn't all lovey-dovey and happy go lucky all the time. There are other problems out there. Suicide, drug use, gang violence are real problems. But I do agree that vulgarities shouldn't be used. But writing how we feel, in a manner that is respectful, is all right.
I meant no disrespect.

Under the moon,
Lady Wolf

Marilyn
Member Elite
since 1999-09-26
Posts 2621
Ontario, Canada
7 posted 2000-04-29 10:59 PM


Ladywolf....Being a teenager at any time in our history, present and future is not easy. We all have dealt with many issues during that time of our lives. We understand that you are forming your self images and your niches in your lives. We do not agrue that point. Suicide is an issue for teens...yes I understand that very well. It was an issue when I was a teen as well. (I attempted myself). This being a public forum we do not wish to have posts about suicide because of the possiblity of impact on the reader. How would you feel if you knew it was your suicide poem that was the deciding factor in someone else's death?

Generally those who truely wish to die find reasons to proceed. The fear of the act is all that is holding them back, if they read something that glorifies taking your own  life, that could be the final modivator. I once posted a prose that dealt with this issue, I am very sorry that I ever did that because of the impact it could have had on someone else's life. We all make mistakes and unless they are pointed out to us we do not realize them.


This poem came across very strongly and at a very turbulent time. If it was received incorrectly we do appologize for being forceful. The guidelines are here for a reason and we all must work within them. Thankyou for your thoughts.  

Marilyn

poe_32
Member
since 2000-04-01
Posts 179
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
8 posted 2000-04-30 03:30 AM


Personnally I can agree with both side of this, writing poetry dealing with suicide and such can effect someone elses life and being the one to cause the difference in that persons life isn't something I would want to carry around knowing I was the one who made this person make that decision good or bad. But I can understand what Ladywolf is coming from becuase we like to write about personnal experiences good or bad to have support from others, I know that because I do that sometimes. But I try not to go against ron's rules and keep it low key. So I guess you could say just not coming straight out in a poem and talking about such topics that arn't accecpted in Passions would be fine but that is up to the moderaters to decide not me. And teenage life isn't that great I should know I'am one myself and I find the one way I can get out my stress by writing poetry, but like I said I try to keep it low key and also that if it has to do with topics that arn't accecpted I don't write it or I do it in a way where no one would understand that thats what I meant. But anyways, my point is that you haven't lost your right to write, you just have to be careful about what you write about becuase this is a place for all ages to come and visit. Thats what my point is. But never stop writing!
Poe

ESP
Member Elite
since 2000-01-25
Posts 2556
Floating gently on a cloud....
9 posted 2000-04-30 07:25 AM


I say that this is Ron's home and we must respect the few fair rules that he would like us to adhere to. He doesn't take away our freedom of writing poetry, just requests that certain topics that may influence an individual in an adverse way be kept from this forum. Your rights are still here but so are Ron's!! Keep writing within the rules....they aren't THAT restricting are they?!?!

Looking forward to seeing something from you soon!

Love and hugs,
Lizzie


 "Poetry is the true expression of my soul, it is my ultimate means of communication. It is my rainbow of delight."

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