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Loving Wife

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26 posted 10-15-1999 11:12 PM       View Profile for Genea   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Genea

I know nothing of ur personal life, but when i read this...i thought it was written 'tongue-in-cheek' and that u were being sarcastic. Did not realize u meant it. After reading all the comments, i would have to side with the votes for 'in poor taste.'
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27 posted 10-16-1999 12:26 AM       View Profile for Systematic Decay   Email Systematic Decay   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Systematic Decay

I am wondering why this poem was met with such hostility? If anyone thinks the poem is in bad taste, that is your opinion, but why all the anger? The only one who would have the right to be angry at his posting it would be his wife....and as he stated, she already knows of it. Scott simply wrote a poem about his problems, which we all do. Hell, I've written poems much like this, bitter hateful, and never had a response such as this.....I'm wondering why people picked now, and this poem, to vent on.

"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage."
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28 posted 10-16-1999 12:42 AM       View Profile for Alwye   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alwye

I'm sorry that I have no answers to offer you...I only have my helping hand and my friendship. And those I will offer you always..I did not see your writing as an outlet to look for sympathy, but as you said, simply looking for answers. I hope you find those answers soon.

*Krista Knutson*

Wise is he who faces the frailty of man with the strength of an understanding heart. -- Daniel L. Miller

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29 posted 10-16-1999 12:47 AM       View Profile for WhtDove   Email WhtDove   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WhtDove's Home Page   View IP for WhtDove

Well, I didn't want to get involved in all this controversy. But I guess I will.
I think if he is expressing his feelings in his marriage, then he has that right to do that. I agree with the fact that people do write things like this. What makes this one different? Because he mentioned that his wife has an illness? He has also brought his SAD out front here and no one jumped on him for airing that. I just don't understand why this has made everyone so hostile.

I wrote a poem a family that made it. My husband doesn't know of it. It is a part of my life that I had to deal with. He would be angry had he known I'd done that. For he hates me to talk about what happened. But that is a part of me, and something I had to deal with, and if I feel like talking about it then I will.
I'm sorry to see this kind of reaction. I guess I really just don't understand. That's all from me.
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30 posted 10-16-1999 03:28 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

Well, I guess it's my turn to jump into the water here. My only comment is that my ex-husband's mother and I believe my ex as well are schizophrenic. She was diagnosed with this heartbreaking disorder. He didn't care to have himself diagnosed by a doctor so who knows for sure? She was in a mental hospital from the time she was in her early twenties until 'they' decided that mentally ill people should live out on their own. Which is all well and good, if the follow-up is there (which it isn't). Who knows what the answer is, if there even is one.

I also have written some things about my own experiences from my first marriage. Life, sometimes, is not pretty. I think sometimes the world is a little more sympathetic to women in abusive situations than they are to men in similar ones. I don't know why.

I applaud your openess with your wife and she with you. I would never have had the courage to do that. (I would have been sorry you can be sure of that!)

Poetry, I believe can be on any subject matter. Expressions of the soul don't always come out hearts and roses.

OK, I've said enough. You will be in my thoughts and prayers, as well as your wife and children.

Rosemary J. Gwaltney
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31 posted 10-17-1999 01:04 AM       View Profile for Rosemary J. Gwaltney   Email Rosemary J. Gwaltney   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Rosemary J. Gwaltney's Home Page   View IP for Rosemary J. Gwaltney

I just have to say that I think the people in here have been cruel here today. I don't think we are here to sermonize others, or judge them. And no one knows who you, or your wife are, anyway, Dream Evil. I would not voice one opinion or another in this case, for I thought we were here to read poetry, and, for myself, if it is something about deep personal pain, I think we should leave it alone if we don't like it. One more thing - a poem is not necessarily always word for word reality, and a person's past poems shouldn't enter into it. Sometimes people write poems about other people's lives, or a life of their own that existed thirty years before, or even a fictional one. I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, I just couldn't let it go by without saying something.
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32 posted 10-18-1999 01:33 AM       View Profile for tulip   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for tulip

Speaking from experience, I'd like to say something. My mom and dad shared many happy years together. When I was 18, my mom had a nervous breakdown, we discoverd that she was schitzophrenic. My dad went through years of hell after that. My 4 brothers and I went to my dad and told him that we would understand if he left her, he didn't. His life has never been the same. My younger brothers have suffered alot being in the home with her. I don't know why he stays, other than he must have really loved her before!! I would understand if you did choose to have an affair, if you chose to stay. I don't know how you do it, she'll never be the woman you fell in love with. My heart goes out to you, you are in a predicament I wouldn't want to be in. But for the children, please get help. I was lucky to be old enough when it happened in our family to have a stable 18 years before it happened. My younger brothers weren't so lucky and it's really messed them up. Good luck...
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33 posted 10-18-1999 10:59 AM       View Profile for Iloveit   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Iloveit

well, I agree with the sailor, this poem and the responses stayed in my mind and I wanted to post one last response.
I am not sure why this poem generated the negative responses it did either.
I do not like my husband, have been married for 25 years, and I could truly say sometimes I hate him. I post my poems, from my heart, and have yet to post one nice poem about him...and have never been attacked like this. NO, he wouldn't like reading what I post about him, but then neither is our relationship an honest one. I hide the real me from him, out of necessity of survival. No I don't ask anyone to understand my relationship, but neither do I ask judgement when I post my hurt or my hate.
I thank Ron, and this board and what ever powers it takes to make this place possible for the freedom to do so. I think all the poets here should have the same freedom....

*and she quietly steps down from the soapbox*
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