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Andrew Scott
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I wrote this one for an earlier time, when young ladies were introduced to the court in hope of finding a husband. Of course, love was hardly ever the deciding factor for a marriage back then. Sometimes I wonder if we've come all that far.

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Little do they know of her
Still, little do they care
A mere prospect in their eyes
Under critical stares

Her value is in question
What dowry does she offer?
Territory to be claimed
How can I conquer?

With courtly manners they flock
Each seeking her favor
In hopes she responds in turn
And rewards their labor

More they should be asking
What is it that I offer?
What worthiness is in me
That I recieve love's voucher?

For she possesses more value
Than they will ever know
Found in loves deep commitment
A depth they will not go

[This message has been edited by Andrew Scott (edited 06-30-99).]
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1 posted 06-30-99 05:12 PM       View Profile for Lost Dreamer   Email Lost Dreamer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Lost Dreamer

Very nice.
sea_of_okc
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Very good Andrew, I like it. I look at today's divorce rate and wonder were arranged marriages so bad?
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Ok..the poem is very good but......

A man was only as good as his bank account or his lordly title and a woman was only as good as her 'breeding ability' or her ability to bring money into an impoverished aristocratic family.

Then after the wedding, and as soon as the first born son was proven to be the husband's, both parties were free to sleep around. If the woman was virtuous, she just stayed at home with the children and became dried up and bitter.

Is that good?

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Poet deVine -- you are correct and I wish no offense. Please note the last two stanzas where I place the woman's value far above what her suiters will pay. That only by offering ones heart will they receive her greatest treasure in turn -- that of true love "a depth they will not go." The narrator does not believe in arranged marriages for this very reason. Love should not be bought and sold to the highest bidder. Unless, love is the coin they offer. I hope you will look at this poem differently and I apologize for any confussion.
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Andrew, I did not imply that you were hoping to go back to the time when there were arranged marriages! I understood your poem but wanted to add my two cents (as usual). I am a history buff and enjoy reading about Victoria/Regency/Georgian etiquette. I find most of it hilarious! I personally know a girl from India whose marriage was arranged for her (about 8 years ago). They talked on the phone, sent letters back and forth, met only once. Then with all the pomp and circumstance of any traditional ritual, she packed her bags and flew to India to get married - her family spent $10,000.00 for the entire thing. She got within an hour of landing and changed her mind!!!! Everyone was devastated! So it does happen in modern times too.

Some women would love to have the security of an arranged marriage I think. Would you arrange for me to marry John Malkovich?

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I agree wholeheartedly, Andrew. So often the "choosers" are so busy passing judgement that they don't stop to think that they are also being judged. Nice work
Andrew Scott
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Ms. deVine: Thanks for coming back. You'll have to excuse me. Sometimes I have the tendency of taking someone's two cents and running off with it. I'm a professional fundraiser for a public radio station (read that as professional begger) and anytime somebody shows me money I start doing a bad imitation of Pavlov's dog.

Sir Balladeer: Thank you for gracing my work with your comments.

I bow to you both!
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courtly love
unrequited passion
far above
a mere possession

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i never call a poem "nice" or such,
for that would not be saying much
 
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