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Toerag
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since 07-29-99
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0 posted 09-24-1999 03:29 PM       View Profile for Toerag   Email Toerag   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to Submit your Poem to Passions  View IP for Toerag

I'd hate to think that anyone,
Would use this board for sympathy,
If the sympathy was for attention,
This would really discourage me.

The folks I've met here mean alot,
To this old Toerag guy for sure,
And if there is a problem,
I hope you find a cure.

I'm just a name that's all,
scratched upon this wall,
My opinion's not worth much,
But my I.Q. is that of such;
I know enough to get me by,
And that's the reason why,
I post this poorly written poem,
To all of those that know,
You can cover eye's with wool,
Or you can shoot a bunch of bull,
But if the words you use,
Are meant to lie or perhaps confuse,
All of us that care,
With our sentiments we share,
You should be ashamed,
Cuz that is a nasty game.
© Copyright 1999 Toerag - All Rights Reserved
RainbowGirl
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1 posted 09-24-1999 03:39 PM       View Profile for RainbowGirl   Email RainbowGirl   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit RainbowGirl's Home Page   View IP for RainbowGirl

I agree Toe, it can cause an awful lot of heartache...

HUSG darling

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You give but little when you give of your possessions. It is when you give of yourself that you truly give.

suthern
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on the threshold of a dream


2 posted 09-24-1999 03:43 PM       View Profile for suthern   Email suthern   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for suthern

I was going to say I agree whole-heartedly... but then that would mean I'd be agreeing that your opinion isn't worth much... and since I agree with that opinion, mine would be worth.... ??? *G*

If heartstrings are being yanked for play, we know for sure some don't understand what compassion is all about.

[This message has been edited by suthern (edited 09-24-1999).]
Jay_Jay
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since 09-18-99
Posts 38
San Diego, CA. USA


3 posted 09-24-1999 04:03 PM       View Profile for Jay_Jay   Email Jay_Jay   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jay_Jay

Toerag, I just got finished reading the comment that you wrote on Echo's poem Suicide...Echo and I have been best of friends since we were little, but I have since moved, I however have been staying with her and her family for a while, so obvioulsy using their computer. Now as for reading this poem, I agree with you. Accept for the part about your opinion not meaning much! You're right, that would be a nasty game, and if someone were doing that, I would hope that they would be ashamed as well!

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Never allow life to get in the way of living...
Toerag
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4 posted 09-24-1999 04:11 PM       View Profile for Toerag   Email Toerag   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Toerag

Jay Jay....let me be the first to say; I always give everyone I meet the benefit of any doubt..and, I hope that all turns out for the best with you and echo.....I hope she returns to a happy and normal productive life.....Life's too short as it is...not to mention taking it early......I know, believe me I know....I've had feelings of suicide, I've been stabbed, beaten, cut.......then the there were the one's that really wanted to end my life prematurely......And, I've had two surgeries that should have taken my life, and I've been fortunate....Hopefully, anyone that has the feeling to take their own will know that there are those that care, and usually, knowing that, and finding out that they DO have things to live for, if it's nothing more than to see kids grow, flowers bloom, faith at work, God's blessings, and reading Passions In Poetry....LOL....and of course, reading my horseshit....then sooner or later they know there's nothing more valuable than life itself.....I hope more than anything all you say is true....with the exception that if Echo is indeed in need of help, that she gets the best available...see ya!!!!!
suthern
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5 posted 09-24-1999 04:32 PM       View Profile for suthern   Email suthern   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for suthern

Well said, Toe... but then, I'd have expected nothing less. *S* For though I haven't walked the paths you've walked, I've found myself so overwhelmed by bleakness I welcomed the relief nothingness offered. And even once I made the decision to live, I endured more than enjoyed...

Then a wonderful man came into my life and his friendship has made me a better person... in trying to mimic your attitude, some became mine perhaps through osmosis... and joy started creeping back into my heart. *S* With that joy came a gladness to be alive... long overdue but so very welcome. I could forgive everyone but myself... and you've helped me do that... maybe someday, I can return the favor! *S*

Jay_Jay: Earlier this week, my family said goodbye to a girl not yet 17... I truly don't know how people endure when guilt over being unable to help is added to the grief. I hope so much Echo gets the help she needs... for herself and all those who love her.
hoot_owl_rn
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since 07-05-99
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6 posted 09-24-1999 04:37 PM       View Profile for hoot_owl_rn   Email hoot_owl_rn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit hoot_owl_rn's Home Page   View IP for hoot_owl_rn

Toerag...you are very observent as I see in your reply to Suicide. I am in agreement with you, there are some very caring people here in passions that pour their hearts out to others in need, I would hate to think that anyone would take advantage of that...for that would truly be a crime. I for one always give someone the benifit of the doubt until I am proven wrong. I would hate to think myself or others have worried or weeped tears for a piece of fiction though.

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Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for awhile and leave footprints in our heart and we are never ever the same.

Thank you all for leaving footprints!!
Jay_Jay
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7 posted 09-24-1999 04:43 PM       View Profile for Jay_Jay   Email Jay_Jay   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jay_Jay

Toerag, I think reading your horseshit, as you so lovingly put it, is a great thing to live for lol. And yes, everything I do say is true, and what is going on right now is definitely true, heart breaking, but true.
Suthern, I myself hope that Echo gets all the help she needs too, though this, unfortunately, is not the first time this has happened. I am sorry to hear that you had to say goodbye to someone so young, and I am sure doing this, that you can understand how hard it is on all of us to see Echo wanting to take her life, being only 17 herself. I do thank you, and everyone else in Passions who have been praying, caring, loving, and sending such heartfelt messages. I know that will mean a lot to her and maybe seeing how much everyone here cares for her (when all barely know her) she might come to realize she is not wanted to be dead and has so much to live for. So I thank you and everyone else, from the bottom of my heart.

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Never allow life to get in the way of living...
RainbowGirl
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Posts 3167
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8 posted 09-24-1999 04:53 PM       View Profile for RainbowGirl   Email RainbowGirl   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit RainbowGirl's Home Page   View IP for RainbowGirl

Jay: no one person should attempt to take their life but unfortunately you have to be that person to walk their path..I would be the first to admit that I've been in a situation where oblivion was all too tempting...

People that usually want to take this route have reasons such as: blocking out a memory;losing someone through death; feeling unworthy; guilt over something or someone or the breakup of a relationship/loss of children...and the problem gets worse if the individual concerned either has noone to talk to or continually gets the advice "things will get better"...practical help and good old solid love work wonders for most..:-))

HUGS

ps; Not that I know what I'm talking about here..*g*


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You give but little when you give of your possessions. It is when you give of yourself that you truly give.



[This message has been edited by RainbowGirl (edited 09-24-1999).]
 
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