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I think the banner advertising the Navy should be removed. Asking someone to go fight wars in such a nice place as a poetry fourm seems taboo. N-E-ways, thanks.
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1 posted 05-06-2004 08:42 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

oh, i don't know - wars are fought here all the time... as i recall, you were in one just the other day...
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2 posted 05-06-2004 10:18 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Maybe the Navy needs a little poetry now and then?
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The nice thing about Passions, Cat, is that we try to see all sides to any given situation.  Just as we allow people to have their say here, we also allow them to have the option of going to "other places", and having a free choice.
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You guys can go live in a world without peace, but for me, I'll take the non-destructive, non-killing way of life. It just seems the more positive way to deal with something, instead if nuking it to a crisp.
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5 posted 05-08-2004 04:44 AM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

swatcatpettus-
While I absolutely grant that you are entitled to your own opinion about life, and the world around you, I would like to rspectfully point out a few things for you to consider:

The Navy does not "nuke" anyone to a crisp. Nor does the Army, or the Air Force, or the Marines, or the Reserves, or the Guard. While it is true that two of the mentioned have nuclear attack capability, NONE of the people involved that I have ever met (in 38 years of dealing with military types) have ever wished they could use them.

NO ONE wants to fight a war. Again, I am drawing on many years of experience dealing with members of the military. It is an unfortunate circumstance that we do occasionally have the need to fight on a foreign shore, and without the Navy (and the others) this country would have been in some serious trouble.

You have the Constitutional right to speak your mind about this issue... and the next time you do so, please take a second to thank the Naval Personnel (and the Marines, and the Soldiers, and the Airmen) who allow you to do so. To date, 2,758,237 of them have died while fighting for this country and for the rights that we are guaranteed.

A very wise man once wrote something to the effect that it is not the press that gives us the right to free press, and it is not the speech writers that give us freedom of speech, and it is not the ministers that give us the freedom of religion, and so on... In every case it was- in part- the Navy.

And while we are on the subject of free speech, while you are truly given the right to think and say what is on your mind, the owner of this site is also guaranteed that right, and he has chosen to exercise that right by advertising for the Navy. While you might not agree, and are very welcome to do so, you should be celebrating the fact that you are both able to do so because Naval personnel have done their job over the last 229 years.

I AM smiling...
And tht fact should be enough to cause you to worry.

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quote:
You guys can go live in a world without peace, but for me, I'll take the non-destructive, non-killing way of life.

Unfortunately, we have no choice but to "live in a world without peace." If you can find one where our military is not necessary to protect our way of life, I'm sure we would all be interested in hearing of it. The ostrich method surely does not work as has been proven thousands of times over.
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i didnt mean to get everyone so upset, its just im an anti-war person, and to see something advertising war, or not even war, just learing how to fight, makes me upset, and ringo, ty for being so neutral on the subject, and i appreciate your input
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8 posted 05-10-2004 09:06 PM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

Again, you have every right to be anti-war. It is given to you by the first amendment of the Constitution.
There are a few things that you might not be considering, though, as far as "advertising learning how to fight"...

The Navy has career fields (as do the other branches of the service, including my own beloved marine Corps) such as:
Arts and Photography
Business Management
Computers
Constuction and Building
Education
Electronics
Emergency Fire and Rescue (my field)Engineering
Food and Lodging
Human Resources
Information Technology
Law Enforcement
Legal
Mechanical and Industrial
Medical and Dental
Music
News and Media
Office and Administrativce Support
Purchase and Supply
Religion
Science
Teleciommunications
Transportation and Logistics
World Languages

Many people think that the main job of America's armed forces is to fight... actually,the main job is to be a deterrent to other nations attacking the Home Front and to protect American lives overseas. No, it doesn't always work, and occasionally, we are sent into harm's way. For those times, there ARE sections within the military (including the Navy) that are designed for that purpose, however the number of people who join those sections are smaller than people realize. Just by joining the military does not require that one kill another human being.

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again...
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I don't see anyone upset. Just because someone does not agree with your position does not mean they are upset.

Pete

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actually - i am upset with you pete... your web page link still doesn't "work"
 
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