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Interloper
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0 posted 2001-04-25 06:30 PM



We used to be able to respond to comments and find our work bact at the top.  I miss this only because I like to read the responses to my comments on other poets.  Now, they just fall to the bottom.

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Marina
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1 posted 2001-04-25 08:48 PM


Interloper, this was an issue for many poets here after the changes were made.  This link my help you to get a better understanding.  It is from the Alley.

/pip/Forum6/HTML/000520.html

Marina

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Nan
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2 posted 2001-04-25 08:58 PM


Interloper - It's only your own posts that won't bump to the top when you comment.  Posts by other poets will automatically do so when you respond to them.  This gives a more realistic view of the number of comments a poem is receiving.
jenni
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3 posted 2001-04-27 03:09 AM


i have to say, removing the "author bump," at least from the critical analysis forum (where i spend the vast majority of my time here), is one feature of the new software i don't like; i much prefer the old way.  

i think not giving the author a bump on his or her own poem inhibits back-and-forth discussion between poet and reader in critical analysis.  true, c/a doesn't get a lot of traffic, and things tend to stay on the "first page" much longer than in open, say, but still, it is SO easy to miss a poem way down there near the bottom with a white (or is it light blue?) folder in the midst of all the yellow folders, especially when one's attention is focused so much on the poems with the red folders, the ones with new comments since your last log-on.  

using "today's topics" isn't very practical, i don't think, and it's kind of awkward.  it only tells you what's active today, which isn't very useful when you've been away for two or three days, or even if you log on shortly after midnight.  and when you want to go check out the forum you're interested in, it's weird to go to this OTHER place instead of directly to the forum itself.

it seems like the "no bump" rule is designed for the open forum, where an author's reply is usually just a thank you.  in critical analysis, though, a lot of authors' comments can be pretty detailed, responding to detailed questions and sometimes lengthy comments posted by readers, and often they can spark important new questions and comments in turn.  if the author is away for a few days, though, it's too easy to miss his or her reply without the bump.  it would make more sense to have the author's comments included up in the "red zone" with the other active posts, instead of relegated to some other place away from the action, as it were, as if the author's comments are somehow less important.  in short, the author's comments are often just as important to what goes on in c/a as the poetry itself.  

getting "a more realistic view of the number of comments a poem is receiving" isn't very relevant to critical analysis forum, i guess is what i'm saying; i think it's more important there to foster back and forth discussion, and to do that by including the author's comments in the more noticeably active threads.  i think the new software isn't helping c/a be all it can be, in other words, lol.

i read quickly through the previous thread on this (thanks marina!), and i was surprised to find out that the old "bump" system still applies to the discussion forums (i really hadn't noticed that before, shows ya how observant i am, lol).  is there maybe a way that c/a could have the bump, too, given its more discussion-oriented purpose?

sorry, nan (and ron, if you're reading this), i don't really mean to reopen all this if it's something that's been hashed through before, but in the thread marina referenced, there didn't seem to be alot of consideration about the effect of the unbump on c/a, and i thought i'd take this opportunity to throw my two cents in.

thanks,

jenni

Nan
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4 posted 2001-04-27 06:25 AM


No need to apologize, Jenni - Any opinions presented as thoroughly and as well thought-out as yours are always gratefully accepted...

[This message has been edited by Nan (edited 04-27-2001).]

Severn
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5 posted 2001-04-27 08:50 AM


jenni...have to agree with you on the CA element...

and that is my original insight for the day heh..

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Bill Charles
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6 posted 2001-04-27 01:25 PM


Interloper - I personally do not like the new rule of replying to a poem.  I see poems start at the top and in a couple of hours disappear. Also, many writers no longer response to a reply because of this new rule. And that is one of the things that I enjoy.

At least before, the poem had a chance to make a couple of runs and seen by new readers before it was passed over. And who cares if the author answered one reply at a time just to have their poem go back through again? I certainly don't. No one said that one of the rules is to read every poem in line even though one would be reading the same one over before getting to the next one. Who made up this rule anyway? And for what reason? Just not to have it go through again, and again? Eventually it will run it's course, so what is the big deal?

Enough already for me on this subject. Let's go back to the old way of replying, bet it doesn't make one bit of difference. As a matter of fact, I believe it would enhance Passions.

BC

Marina
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7 posted 2001-04-27 05:26 PM


If I may make a suggestions here??

This thread may be better off in the Alley where this issue was originally addressed back in Febraury as it seems now to be turning into more of an opinion thread then Q and A.

Just my opinion though.

Marina

Again, the original thread was...

/pip/Forum6/HTML/000520.html

It is a blessing to have wings for words, and passion in pen
Marina Crossley



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