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Kevin Taylor
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0 posted 2001-10-16 01:24 PM


O, Boil the little buggers in a syrup made of lye
That'll teach them not to chatter when the news is on at five.
That'll teach them not to chatter
That'll teach them not to sing
That'll teach the little buggers not to do annoying things!

O, Skin the little buggers with a blade made out of tin
That'll teach them not to stay out when they should be staying in.
That'll teach them not to stay out
That'll teach them not to whine
That'll teach the little buggers that they'd better toe the line.

O, Beat the little buggers with a frying pan on fire
That'll teach them not to argue when they should be jumping higher
That'll teach them not to argue
That'll teach them not to zoom
That'll teach the little buggers not to have a messy room.

O Boil, O Beat, O Skin, O Beat, O Beat, O Skin, O Boil
The task of loving children doesn't follow Rules of Hoyle
The task of loving children, O
The task that makes us swear
The task of loving children is to teach them that we care!

Kevin

"Poetry is, at once, what you get... and how you get there."


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1 posted 2001-10-16 01:57 PM


ROFLMAO, Ok Kevin, you got me there. I can understand this one. Actually it even makes a pretty valid point.  Well done, my friend.

Pete

Never express yourself more clearly than you can think - Niels Bohr

hush
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2 posted 2001-10-20 11:08 AM


Interesting... for the most part, I like this.... the tone and repetition remind me of some of the more pessemistic songs on The Wall. However, one line I don't get is "That'll teach them not to zoom"... seems to be thrown in simply to aid rhyme.

Also.... and this is just a personal preference... I saw the end as a bit too hallmarkish, a little too honey-dipped... I don't know... I thought it was jarring to go from such a dark tone to something so positive.

I eat only sleep and air -Nicole Blackman

Dee
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3 posted 2001-10-20 05:15 PM


Kevin, I am sorry but I actually take offence at this. I think it is too over the top. How can you write about hurting a child to show love, even tongue in cheek?

Dee

Heather Miller
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4 posted 2001-10-20 10:17 PM


I would have to TOTALLY agree with Dee. I LOVE my kids and I don't have to do ANY of that to show them. Yes they get the occational spankin' or grounding but thats as far as it goes.
Heather

Without the experiance of love where would we be? We would have no memories to cherish.
With love it brings hurt with hurt bittersweet memories.

Kevin Taylor
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5 posted 2001-10-21 12:52 PM


Well for the pollyannaish I should point out that I am not writing about hurting a child to show them that I love them. If you were familiar with burlesque you might have had an easier time of it. The poem is written to point out the absolute ludicrousness of any such handling of children. Harming children in the name of help may be a distasteful subject but if one is to communicate the stupidity (to say the least) then mockery or exageration is a useful technique.

I will also write about those that harm others... psychiatrists for example.

I don't justify ANY violence against children. And for me that includes spanking... an action that I would take great offence over. However I do not think that this is a forum to debate my viewpoints, rather the technical bits and pieces.

The other comments regarding zoom or the last line are taken under advisement, thank you.

Kevin

"Poetry is, at once, what you get... and how you get there."


Dee
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6 posted 2001-10-21 03:28 AM


Kevin, if you reread my comment you will see that I said "even tongue in cheek" so I did see that it was "burlesque" as you put it. I still believe it is in BAD taste and probably against the guidelines.
I have not resorted to name calling I have just put across my opinion on your poem. Please refrain from calling Heather and myself names.

Dee

Kevin Taylor
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7 posted 2001-10-21 01:52 PM


Dear Dee
Tongue-in-cheek is not what I think of when I hear burlesque .. But even allowing that, I have called neither you nor Heather names. I said that "for the pollyannaish"... and if you look up pollyannaish you'll see that it means "pleasantly... optimistic [syn: cheerful, upbeat]- World Net" which is hardly calling names. But for those who may interpret my words differently, I retract the adjective.

I appreciate your feeling that the poem is in bad taste. I do not share the view. But that it is against guidelines? I can hardly see how. This is the critique section.

However, if you find my poetry offensive beyond the pale then I will remove it.



Kevin

"Poetry is, at once, what you get... and how you get there."

[This message has been edited by kevintaylor (edited 10-21-2001).]

hush
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8 posted 2001-10-21 02:41 PM


Phew.... I didn't think he was actually encouraging the harm of children.... sometimes, with poetry, it's a good idea to take a step back from the literal meaning of a phrase and delve into what is actually being said... the message in this is pretty straightforwardly against harming children.... read the last stanza... in fact, I thought it was too straightforward, but maybe I was wrong? LOL... lighten up a bit.

I eat only sleep and air -Nicole Blackman

Marq
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9 posted 2001-10-29 01:18 AM


This is great!  Good job!
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