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Abortion |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia 
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Abortion (c) 2001 Night Hawke It am the big damn buggaboo him and her don't talk about cause her don't think it's right him do or versa vice One of them knots thou shalt shout about bombalot do or don't but not talk about In this debate everyone is pro no con vincin anybody much of nothin her talk about rights him say right and wrong the Bible don't say anything atall Hate is a dead thing. Who of you would be a tomb? -Kahlil Gibran |
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Carolina Member
since 2001-08-17
Posts 224Myrtle Beach, SC |
*looking up buggaboo* Live today as if it's your last. Love today as if it's your first. Lisa |
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hush Senior Member
since 2001-05-27
Posts 1653Ohio, USA |
I really like this- it's sort of reminiscent of some of Ginsberg's later stuff, really reminded me of Hum Bom, this really tripped out crazy rant poem... Anyway, the only confusion I had was the end about the Bible- was it meant to be a snide evangelist remark, as in "nobody reads the Bible anymore, kids should read the Bible" etc., or that the him and her argue about things maybe rotted in biblical ideaology but neither of the actually read the Bible, or just a remark that the Bible is worthless in matters of philosophy... or maybe all of the above? In any case, wonderful poem, I really like way you played with grammar. I eat only sleep and air -Nicole Blackman |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
The Bible is, like most literature, beyond communication with the authors. It is up to us to find the intent -- or the meaning for us. So -- if you think that's what my poem means -- then it does -- to you.  Thanks hush -- glad you liked ___________ Are you going to get back to us on that Carolina? lol  [This message has been edited by Local Rebel (edited 08-28-2001).] |
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Carolina Member
since 2001-08-17
Posts 224Myrtle Beach, SC |
LOL I found it. I like it, by the way! I really like it. And, I took the Bible reference to mean that abortion isn't specifically mentioned in the Bible, and because it's not specifically talked about, some people consider that to not be a sin. No matter how you turn it, twist it, or expose it - there will always be two sides and two views to this subject. I love how you draw that out in this poem, how two people can have different views, different reasons and different impacts on their lives.  *taking notes as always* ((((huggzzzzz)))))) Live today as if it's your last. Love today as if it's your first. Lisa |
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paladin
since 2001-08-05
Posts 930Pensacola,Fl. |
Abortion is mentioned in the bible."Thou shall not kill".I firmly think ending the life of a fetus is killing. paladin |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
I'm sorry paladin this forum is about poetry. If you want to debate the issue of abortion you could start a thread on it in philosophy or perhaps the alley if it's something that makes you angry. But thanks for reading and commenting anyway. |
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serenity blaze Member Empyrean
since 2000-02-02
Posts 27738 |
smiling...I'm seeing layer here again-- You always make me think, Reb... So it's your fault if I become dangerous!  |
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Marq Member
since 1999-10-18
Posts 222 |
I like the flow and style of this. The Bible ending seemed to me kind of 'thrown in there'. All the best! |
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warmhrt Senior Member
since 1999-12-18
Posts 1563 |
Hi Rebel, Loved the poem..the format, especially the wordplay. "knots" in the second stanza, and "con"(next line)"vincin" in the third stanza. Think you captured the whole subject really well in a concise, well-written poem, though I would not expect less of you. Kris "It is wisdom to know others; |
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jfreak Member
since 1999-06-17
Posts 306Yuma, AZ, USA |
Reb, dude...I must say that this was a very intriguing piece. I definately agree with the others about the excellent use of word play and grammar...to me this was from the view point of the one in the womb...who's grammar would be that way...The Bible comment...well...it does kind of seemed just thrown in there...doesn't fit well...but...hey you are the author and all and that is your perogative...you can do that...I am more than willing to discuss this issue...but you are right about this not being the place for that...feel free to email me if you would like...anyway... outstanding poem... J~ |
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Local Rebel Member Ascendant
since 1999-12-21
Posts 5767Southern Abstentia |
Thanks all of you for reading and replying -- glad you liked the word play -- I personally find it essential for free verse especially in the asence of rhyme... As to the Bible bit -- I thought I wove it in from begining to end -- but it's all in the reading -- glad you could all present your own interpretations. Thanks again... oh.. and we did discuss it in Philosophy /pip/Forum8/HTML/000260.html if anybody is still interested |
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shoffswife Junior Member
since 2001-12-23
Posts 38KY, US |
i really liked this poem. i was confused at first, but after i read it a second time i am lovin it. I agree with the person that said that abortion is mentioned in the bible, but that's my opinion and i don't want to get into a political debate. anyway, your poem is awesome. look forward to reading more from you. |
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lizzyluv Junior Member
since 2001-12-27
Posts 46nh, usa. we suck. |
i really appreciated that. i liked the subtlty and the broad slaps in the face. i'm not going to add to the abortion's posativity/negativity debate. but i will raise a question for all of the abopve. how do we know the abortion title refers to the removal of a human fetus? the word is not restricted to pregnancy. it applies to almost any process/sequence cut short. i liked the thou shalt not shout part, but i appreciate twisting of common phrase. "everyone is broken by something they love and worship"- Francesca Lia Block |
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hush Senior Member
since 2001-05-27
Posts 1653Ohio, USA |
lizzy, I thought the lines "her talk about rights him say right and wrong" were pretty indicative that this is about aborting a pregnancy. LOL, on a side note, after a re-read of the entire thread, the end seemed kind of humorous to me. I pictured the man and woman yelling at each other in the same horrible stalemate, while the bible averts its eyes, twiddles its thumbs, and hums uncomfortably, wishing it were somewhere else. LOL... it's probably only funny to me... but oh well. "I'm thinking about leaving tomorrow |
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lizzyluv Junior Member
since 2001-12-27
Posts 46nh, usa. we suck. |
aright, so you're right, hush. but i still think getting into an abortion debate is unneccesary here. and it was funny to me, as well, you have an interesting visualization process. "everyone is broken by something they love and worship"- Francesca Lia Block |
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punksmurf Junior Member
since 2002-01-01
Posts 37new hampshire, U.S. |
i agree that although there is a section discussing right and wrong, that does not necesarally mean fetal abortion the not quite up to par grammar gave this poem the feeling of real life and not some pshyco's ideal conversation or life, this poem is open and honest, on an issue many feel strongly about. but let's not get into that ~Me |
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