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redshoes
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0 posted 2000-05-22 06:11 PM



            1565
Trapped
by a mixture
Of gasoline and wax

While trampled
By hundreds
That ran across your back
  
     It was
Chaos, and mayhem
While wordlessly you slept
     And the
     Fire
Never burned you
It only kept you young.

The public
Embraced you
But never came
To claim you

A thumbprint
Of soot
Your only mark of abuse

Trapped
With tigers,
And men that could fly
     And
Toetagged
Just a number
1565.




 

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Sunshine
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1 posted 2000-05-23 02:32 PM


Wow!
jenni
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2 posted 2000-05-24 01:14 PM


redshoes--

this is a very interesting piece.  the middle section was quite strong, i thought, especially the third stanza.  i have trouble understanding, though, just what tigers and "men that could fly" in the final stanza have to do with anything; the connection between these images and the subject of the poem is simply too vague, in my opinion.  

anyway, i enjoyed this piece.  thanks for sharing it with us.  welcome to passions, and i hope to see more of your work out here.

jenni

redshoes
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3 posted 2000-05-24 07:50 PM


jenni-
the subject of the piece is a fire that occurred in Hartford, CT. in the forties, in a circus tent. Of the hundreds that passed away, all were identified except for six, five of which could not be identified because of the fire. One was a little girl that didn't have a mark on her, but no-one ever came to get her. She remained just a number.
I was so intrigued by the story that I wrote this poem, but I agree that the story is not clear in the body of the words. I may shift it around a bit, or maybe just a disclaimer at the top would help. Thanks!-red

jbouder
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4 posted 2000-05-24 08:32 PM


Redshoes:

I also think this is an interesting poem.  At first I had difficulty figuring out what the poem was about but figured it had something to do with a someone who was trampled by a panicky crowd.  I think it is possible to get the gist of the story by what you have written but it does take a little bit of figuring out (nothing wrong with this).  I was, however, lost to the significance of the number "1565" until I read your explanation.  I think if you are able to paint a more easily recognizable picture, the reader will be more likely to sympathize with the anonymous victim.

Thanks for posting.  I enjoyed this.

Jim

Seoulman
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5 posted 2000-05-24 10:07 PM


Hi Redshoes,
Welcome to you too! I'm just a part-timer and definetly no critic!

I personally liked your poem, and the imagery evoked some distant village in India or something-the panic, tigers, the stench of gasoline. And I like a bit of mystery in a poem so the significance of your title was highlighted only in the last stanza. Well done and have fun!

Poertree
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6 posted 2000-05-25 01:44 PM


i've been wanting to post on this for a few days but was slightly put off by the fact that i really hadn't a clue what it was about ..(not that that should have stopped me eh? brad? jenni? ...lol)

I agree with jim though to the extent that where a poem is about a specific event and moreover the force of the poem relies to a fairly large degree on the reader having some appreciation of what the event is, then it is perhaps necessary to be a little less obscure, or alternatively rely on having a more informed and astute audience than ME ..LOL

Now i know what the story behind this is i see there was a definite clue in the "tigers and flying men".

In any case i certainly enjoyed the middle part of the poem even without the background info. ....now i like the whole lot ......  

thanks

Philip

YAY .. and just seen your profile ... British Movies !! a poet with taste !! see that jim? heh .......... btw Red call 'em "films" please ......   

[This message has been edited by Poertree (edited 05-25-2000).]

kaile
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7 posted 2000-05-29 12:54 PM


Welcome to Passions!

interesting title that drew me in....i initially thought this was a poem on some convict but i was wrong

Lovely tribute to 1565...looking forward to reading more of your work

Marge Tindal
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8 posted 2000-05-29 08:42 PM


RedShoes~
It was evident to me on first-read that the victims were related to a circus fire -

'Trapped
With tigers,
And men that could fly'

Also realized that the morgue # was evident in the 'toetagged' phrase.
Didn't know the exact story ...
but it didn't affect the effect for me.

I really like it and think that perhaps your idea of a disclaimer (even though I find them usually unnecessary to good poetry) may be an idea to consider, perhaps as a tribute to those victims of the Hartford circus fire.
Enjoyed this very much.
~*Marge*~

    


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redshoes
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9 posted 2000-05-30 06:01 PM


Marge-
Thanks so much for your kind words and for seeing the intricasies of thep oem...I appreciate it!

Jana Tovey
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10 posted 2000-05-30 06:16 PM


This is very moving.  I like the way you let the words tumble down, like the little girl trapped and trampled.  The form of the poem is effective and well thought out.  It adds a lot and it measures out the the range of emotions to be felt by the readers.
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