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Christopher
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Purgatorial Incarceration

0 posted 2000-04-29 10:11 PM


Misconceptioning



                arid waterfalls
    of a tear-stained reflectioning
             scream silence
          into her eyes
   whil’st she dwells denial
               in transient dreaming
                foregoing faith
                     for pain
          in the solitary crowding
              of her thoughtless mind’s
               beseechments
                       sharing a past
                       with herself
                              in a future never-come
                                       so-
                              she blinks away
                                   the sounding
                  of hope’s doubtfully caressing
                             since she
                       only sees the changes
                                        and never sees the change




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Elyse
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since 2000-04-16
Posts 414
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1 posted 2000-04-30 02:28 AM


hi Christopher!  wow, this is sorta trippy    i like the neologisms - or they seem that way to me.  i never heard of "reflectioning" being a word   -  they're inriguing, and i like the way you play with them, and i love the last two lines, but im not sure what you're trying to do with the wierd way the lines lay.  its a little distracting and disconcerting, and honestly, i cant see as it adds much to the poem.  but its a cool one, no denying that.  
luv Elyse

ps - how do you spell denying?  this dictionary sux.  

Severn
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since 1999-07-17
Posts 7704

2 posted 2000-05-01 11:07 AM


Well...is this a double post? I thought I saw this in Open ~shrug~ could be wrong...

Now - I must start of with a HUGE gripe C.

What on earth is the ' doing in whilst? I just have to say one big 'huh?' here and give you a mystified 'look'...

nope - it just doesn't work...

Lovely freeverse though - and contrary to Elyse (who did indeed spell denying right) I think the form is excellent. If it is at all disconcerting then that might add to the tone of the poem - like someone grasping for understanding (of change perhaps) or just missing it - jumping around in their mind, you know what I mean.

The lines that stand out for me are:

she blinks away
                                                the sounding
                               of hope’s doubtfully caressing
                                          since she
                                    only sees the changes
                                                     and never sees the change

really good lines with a thought provoking end.

BUT again - this is quite awkward I feel:

in the solitary crowding
                           of her thoughtless mind’s
                            beseechments
                        
I think it has to be modified - at first I thought to suggest getting rid of the 'mind's' but realiSed (  ) that you need it there, so perhaps removing the plural of beseechment would work - those two s endings jar.

All in all good stuff C.

K




[This message has been edited by Severn (edited 05-01-2000).]

jenni
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since 1999-09-11
Posts 478
Washington D.C.
3 posted 2000-05-01 12:26 PM


christopher--

an interesting piece, you have some good lines here, i guess (although i personally am not a huge fan of oxymoronic phrases like "arid waterfalls", "scream silence" and "solitary crowding").  but there are a couple of really confusing, awkward phrases here:

"whil'st she dwells denial in transient dreaming"

what does this mean?  are you using "dwells" as a sort of transitive verb, like saying "she makes denial dwell in transient dreaming" (if that's the case, it is awkward in the extreme), or that she dwells both in denial and in transient dreaming, or what?  it just doesn't make any sense.  and what's up with the word "whil'st"?  why use an archaic form like that (the only one in the entire piece), when the word "while" works just as well?  combining "whil'st" with all the oxymoronic phrasing makes it seem like you're trying awfully hard to be "poetic."

"the sound of hope's doubtfully caressing" is another awkward phrase, in my opinion, it feels like there's a missing noun in there.... "hope's doubtfully caressing monkeys," or whatever.  do you mean hope's doubtful caresses?  if so, why not just say it like that?  or maybe you intended "hope's" to be not the possessive but the plural "hopes"?  either way, that line needs a little revision, i think.    

the words "reflectioning" and "beseechments", as well as the title "misconceptioning", are awkward, too, corrupting nouns into verbs and verbs into nouns; there's got to be a better way of getting your point across.

anyway, i agree with severn about your format; i think it serves the poem well.  i like what you're saying in the piece, summed up in the last two lines; a little re-tooling of some of the more awkward things could make this a really nice poem, i think.  

thanks for an interesting read,

jenni

[This message has been edited by jenni (edited 05-01-2000).]

Brad
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since 1999-08-20
Posts 5705
Jejudo, South Korea
4 posted 2000-05-01 01:20 PM


Sorry Chris,

Jenni,
YOU'RE BACK!!!!! I hope you can stay for a long, long time.

I missed you.

Brad

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