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Master
Senior Member

since 1999-08-18

Posts 1867
Boston, MA

0 posted 1999-10-23 01:15 AM

As a tulip by a pond
Glues its roots to its reflection
Lipstick sticks two lips together
In a bond of their affection

Lips did meet and froze their pose
Eyes are closed and years are passing
But as they separate their grasping
Water smears, and love is lost

Brad
Member Ascendant

since 1999-08-20

Posts 5705
Jejudo, South Korea

1 posted 1999-10-23 05:48 PM

First, I have to say thank you for the first image; you used a flower other than a rose and that makes me very, very happy.

The image you portray however is just strange. "Lips did meet and froze their pose/ Eyes are closed and years are passing" makes me picture a couple who are stuck in a kiss for years. This is a metaphor for love?
Are you being ironic or even comic?

You portray love as some sort of static picture and once it breaks it is over. In many ways I read this as an anti-love poem.

Just an opinion,
Brad

hoot_owl_rn
Member Patricius

since 1999-07-05

Posts 10750
Glen Hope, PA USA

2 posted 1999-10-23 09:04 PM

Again Master...I have to ask the question I already asked...is this poem about a true loss of love or simply a distortion of the immage in the water below.
I don't agree with Bard on the line..."Lips did meet and froze their pose"
Lends new truth to the line frozen in a kiss and I think it works nicely here
the same with the following line....
"Eyes are closed and years are passing"
Obviously Brad has never experienced one of those kisses where time no longer is and it seems you've lived all your life in that single moment

I can relate to that line and like the use of it here as well as it's wording.

The final two lines are where I have my problem, they experience this breath taking, time passing, all encompassing kiss, then seperate from it and love is lost......where the heck did it go?? Or is the love (the reflection of love) lost only in the waters mirror?

Brad
Member Ascendant

since 1999-08-20

Posts 5705
Jejudo, South Korea

3 posted 1999-10-26 08:50 AM

Hoot,
But is that what the poem says? I don't picture a feeling here; I picture a single kiss that lasted for several years that 'lipstick sticks' and when they separate the 'water smears'. That is the image of the poem combined with the simile of the first two lines.

Do you want to stay in one, single kiss for years? I think that's disgusting

starchild
Member

since 1999-10-22

Posts 59
manchester, england

4 posted 1999-10-26 09:01 AM

THE WAy i get this is that it makes me think about the kisses that mean nothing to her but loads to you like a girl you really like at a party or when you just do it as friends. i think the words are smart, and i like the way you change the set up

hoot_owl_rn
Member Patricius

since 1999-07-05

Posts 10750
Glen Hope, PA USA

5 posted 1999-10-26 08:06 PM

Brad, thanks for the smile....would make it a bit difficult to go to the bathroom wouldn't it?

But, when I read those same line, I envision a kiss that seems to last an eternity when it may just be a matter of minutes or for that matter, only seconds. As I say....subjective.

jenni
Member

since 1999-09-11

Posts 478
Washington D.C.

6 posted 1999-10-27 02:01 AM

master--

i agree with brad that this could almost be an anti-love poem. love glues, sticks, and freezes? not nice images, yet i think you intended the loss of love to be... a loss, right? i'd be relieved to get this gluey, sticky, cold thing off of me, lol. my boyfriend would definitely make me change my brand of lipstick, lol.

and -- this is just me i am sure -- your image of a flower reflected in a pond immediately makes me think of the story of narcissus from greek mythology. are the two lips in the poem a person and his/her reflection in the water, like narcissus and his reflection? the loss of narcissistic love doesn't sadden me much. i don't think that's what you intended, but i couldn't help but think of narcissus, when you write of love, a single flower, and a reflection in a pond like that.

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