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ice
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0 posted 2016-03-01 10:45 AM



The_Peaceable_Kingdom,_circa_1833,_by_Edward_Hicks_(1780-1849)_

Trickle down theory:

After in's use most of what sustains,
The horses's tail moves to the side.
Out's claim what's still good in the dung,
Cracked corn, and small bits of grain.
*
Repossession:

They deny the blank slate
But In's never learn to be altruists;
Declaring a paper war- waging
Assault on only emotions--
After the ink dries, no blood flows.

But in's will strike hard, at legal time,
Believing God, and law is on their side;
As they bash the money-brains of outs,
Forcing their children to sleep in cars.
*

Immigrants"

Slow to take them to the border;
Coyotes play, money in paws, the same
They use to fondle female out's,
Along the road to the peaceable kingdom.

Out's carry orphaned children,
Widows made by homeland terror.
In's share common addictions,
Fear for life, causes need for asylum.

Leftover in's, with death squad memory,
Join merchants of fun-fun bought
By bored Americans-forcing outs-out
Of fear to seek a tranquil border .

Out's seek refuge in the land of in's
Outs are blocked at the border,
Turned away  to die in the desert.
And the funds of in's, fund once again,

The pollos misery.


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DaysofView
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Just A Slice Of The Pie
1 posted 2016-03-01 10:49 PM


Your poems are always very good but often hard for me to understand but that's my bad not yours. I know alot about horse tails and trails though and I thought that was very good! Funny about the cracked corn and all so you must be around horses alot. Your picture is one I think I saw before and maybe someday the animals won't be afraid of us and we of them. I think about that sometimes and maybe that's some of what you wrote about.

If I were more than I am, I'd see things differently instead of the same all the time.

ice
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2 posted 2016-03-01 11:28 PM


Thank you Days'
For reading, and your honest reply... :-)

I write in complicated ways sometimes, but do mix it up with clearer themes..This one I made complicated on purpose.
Because the meaning of it is so severe.

The painting reflects what the poem is mostly about.The painter is a Quaker, member of the society of friends..

The Latin in the title  has much to do with the picture, which is of William Penn negotiating one of the few treaties that were honored by old world settlers, with First Nation peoples. (American Indians)
The opposite the "war of all against all"
In's, and outs also have meaning in the title of the poem.

Rich vs poor, weak vs strong etc.
In other words "the war of all, against all..Directly the opposite of what the picture tells..That all do not have to fight all, that all can get along, that all can love each other--even the brutes..
The lion (an in), can lay down with the lamb (an out) and not fear.. thus the child petting the tiger.
Of course in a spiritual, metaphorical sense.

The three different poems are written about three socially evil circumstances, that in my mind are perpetrated by "In's.
that have either been in power, or are now in power..

The first one is taken from the original theory of trickle down economics..

It was called the "horse (sh..) do do , and the sparrow theory.Later made popular by Ronald Reagan., and in reality the driving force behind those who believe in the myth of an ever expanding economy.

The second poem is about Mortgage lenders (in), and the receivers of those junk mortgages (out) that the givers knew could not be paid.

The third is about Immigrants that come from south, and central America (outs) and the reasons that they must leave their homeland.. drugs, and old political doings (In's), mostly by the United States government's intervention policies of the 70s, and 80s.

Again, thank you for reading, and your reply..

Sorry for being so long winded--I apologize.

"Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to dance."
Carl Sandburg

Lori Grosser Rhoden
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3 posted 2016-03-04 10:03 AM


Thank you for you clarification, I thought I was somewhere in the ball field of understanding something like that. ~L
ice
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4 posted 2016-03-04 11:34 AM


Lori...thank you
I once attended the same meeting house of William Penn..He negotiated a fair, and kept to treaty with the local natives..

His son messed that up, after Williams death...... :-(

The basic tennant of the society of friends is that one must be active in spirit, and body in fighting what is known as socially violent issues..

Hunger, poverty, war, sexism, raceism etc.
And that you don't hate, and chastise
the hungry person, or the poor person, or the war advocate(person) etc etc, but you attack the procedure that put those persons in their positions. social procedures.

The three examples I gave are an attack on those procedures..

Sadly, I have no way to fight them except through my rough poetry..

Thanks again for reading..

Nameste
ice

Cari
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Englnand
5 posted 2016-03-05 09:48 AM


I’m glad to say I recognised this as a political piece when reading, that is somewhat relevant to the election process taking place today in America. Reading of your political tendencies, which, at times, are featured in your poetry, I think they’re to the left rather than to the right.
The rhetoric flowing from most of the candidates in the American election process is frankly perplexing to most Europeans, and the difficulty that some Americans have to understand the core differences between Communism and Socialism is puzzling to us. Surely it only takes a minute to consult a dictionary. To judge Germany, a Social Democratic country, as Communist for example is hilarious.


America is the one remaining super power and as such could easily provide for its people the highest standard of living in the world, but in so many ways too much is rooted in the old rejected values of the past. Where is the liberty if you’re locked into a dead end job because you will loose half of your payment of Medicare if you left?

Not that my own country is a shining example for anyone, far from it, we have enough problems of our own and if we had the will to change we certainly don’t have the vast wealth of America has to be able to afford them.

Not so much as a personal rant, but a general reflection on the mass media views of the American election from this side of the pond.

I would never argue with your views that were expressed in your poetry Ice.

Cari.

rainyday
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Heartland USA
6 posted 2016-03-05 03:33 PM


Ice, You may be too smart for your own good
(just kidding) you are a True Thinker, I've a feeling you try to see things from All sides.

Well said Wise-Poet.

J

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