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serenity blaze
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0 posted 2010-12-13 10:11 PM


The reasonings are numerous.
By our nature, quarrelous--
passions, greed, exaggerate
our instinctive need for hate
embodied by dark arts of war.

I shall not beg of you "have Faith",
nor wag my finger "you partake"
in ritual or sacrement--
no admonitions to repent
The very nature that we are

Animals with good intent.

We have Sophia's retrospect.
We have tomes which we neglect.
We have mapped the skies and land
and learned to forego reprimand
as Gaia swirls enticingly.

A Femme Fetale's embodiement
and time is a thing we invent
to try to place her in a box
magnetized to mimic soft
mechanics, subjucated to transcend

animals with good intent.


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JerryPat
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1 posted 2010-12-13 10:19 PM


Can't argue with your logic here, serenity. Sometimes the attraction is dulled by inaction. Mother Earth is alive and doing well. Puny man is incapable of harming her severely and the femme fetale's are only in a box of their own making.

Good to see you back posting. I like you.

Andrew Scott
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2 posted 2010-12-13 10:25 PM


"Animals with good intent"
But damn that "instinctive need to hate"
Powerful stuff here. Thanks for sharing.

"We'll chase them like rats across the tundra."

serenity blaze
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3 posted 2010-12-13 10:56 PM


Thanks, so much, both of you.



Now? I have to go put up my beans--and every Monday I proclaim I've made my best red beans ever.

And it's true every time.

Happy Holidays, all.

Andrew Scott
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4 posted 2010-12-13 11:33 PM


"red beans and rice
mighty nice"

Not sure who, but some blues musician said it right. I have no doubt you cook 'em right. Enjoy!

"We'll chase them like rats across the tundra."

serenity blaze
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5 posted 2010-12-13 11:57 PM


Oh Andrew...



There's only one reason I know how to cook rice properly. I once had house guests from Crowley, La.--the self-proclaimed "Rice Capitol of The World." <--I figured China or another Asian country might be competitive, but no...



So I pulled out my rice cooker--and a gentle hand on my forearm told me, "nooo...."

So he showed me how to properly measure, boil water, and steam rice perfectly--every time.



I never forgot. Unless  of course, I'm asked to remember...

*wink*

Thanks for coming back for seconds, dawlin'.

Always the true measure of a compliment.

*hugs*

ethome
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6 posted 2010-12-14 02:55 AM


The old cliche, 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions!"

Excellent write, a summation of humanized reality and a love for the challenge to continually try to make it all better.

Eric

JerryPat
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7 posted 2010-12-14 09:11 AM


I found the secret of cooking rice also . . . Rice cookers no . . .
Dark Stranger
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8 posted 2010-12-14 09:58 AM


ms serene..cookin rice in a greasy skillitt with cluckin gizzards and crawfish knees...wut ya mean boilin?

enjoyed the poem babe

serenity blaze
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9 posted 2010-12-14 03:57 PM


Oh most honorable darkest stranger?

Just save me the heads.

I love to suck their little brains out.



lawsy


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10 posted 2010-12-16 04:13 PM


Deep and insightful, Serenity, and hopefully we will continue to evolve, well beyond the genetic propensity to snarl, and bear the gums and teeth, and salivate like the animals in the wild, even to the point of building thermonuclear bombs to blow the hell out of one another! Animals with good intent, indeed, but tragically, the stuff by which the road to hell is paved! I enjoy your intriguing perspectives, and I pay particular attention "subjugated to transcend"!

Art

serenity blaze
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11 posted 2010-12-16 04:17 PM


Please let me try again to say thank you to you all properly.

Um.

Thank you to you all properly.

This one just ended up being something entirely different than what I was aiming for--just as my life did.



Thanks for reading. ?

Martie
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12 posted 2010-12-16 05:02 PM


Just goes to prove, Karen, that those things hidden, maybe behind the cooking pot, put there by life itself, are what feed the soul. Loves you!
Sunshine
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13 posted 2010-12-16 07:27 PM


quote:
our instinctive need for hate

I have some serious wires that need straightening...because I will disagree that all of us have a need to hate...

if I find anything wrong with me when asked, this would be it. I find it hard to hate...

but I WILL admit to being an animal

"with good intent"...

I see that we need to talk.



serenity blaze
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14 posted 2010-12-16 07:55 PM


As far as I know, the human being is the only animal that will try to rise above their instincts.

Survival instinct sometimes requires an emotional rationale akin to hate, and that's what I meant by that line.

?


ethome
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15 posted 2010-12-17 10:51 AM


The human being has the largest prefrontal cortex on the planet. No other species can match it or the abilities it harbours.

The prefrontal cortex . . . is most involved with elaboration of thought, intelligence, motivation, and personality. It associates experiences necessary for the production of abstract ideas, judgment, persistence, planning, concern for others, and conscience. . . . It is the elaboration of this region that sets human beings apart from other animals.” (Marieb’s Human Anatomy and Physiology) We certainly see evidence of this distinction in what humans have accomplished in fields such as mathematics, philosophy, and justice, which primarily involve the prefrontal cortex.

Unlike animals, who mainly live and act on present needs, humans can contemplate the past and plan for the future. A key to your doing that is the brain’s almost limitless memory capacity. True, animals have a degree of memory, and thus they can find their way back home or recall where food may be. Human memory is far greater. One scientist estimated that our brain can hold information that “would fill some twenty million volumes, as many as in the world’s largest libraries.” Some neuroscientists estimate that during an average life span, a person uses only 1/100 of 1 percent (.0001) of his potential brain capacity. You might well ask, ‘Why do we have a brain with so much capacity that we hardly test a fraction of it in a normal lifetime?’
Nor is our brain just some vast storage place for information, like a supercomputer. Biology professors Robert Ornstein and Richard F. Thompson wrote: “The ability of the human mind to learn—to store and recall information—is the most remarkable phenomenon in the biological universe. Everything that makes us human—language, thought, knowledge, culture—is the result of this extraordinary capability.”

Moreover, you have a conscious mind. That statement may seem basic, but it sums up something that unquestionably makes you exceptional. The mind has been described as “the elusive entity where intelligence, decision making, perception, awareness and sense of self reside.” As creeks, streams, and rivers feed into a sea, so memories, thoughts, images, sounds, and feelings flow constantly into or through our mind. Consciousness, says one definition, is “the perception of what passes in a man’s own mind.”
Modern researchers have made great strides in understanding the physical makeup of the brain and some of the electrochemical processes that occur in it. They can also explain the circuitry and functioning of an advanced computer. However, there is a vast difference between brain and computer. With your brain you are conscious and are aware of your being, but a computer certainly is not. Why the difference?

Frankly, how and why consciousness arises from physical processes in our brain is a mystery. “I don’t see how any science can explain that,” one neurobiologist commented. Also, Professor James Trefil observed: “What, exactly, it means for a human being to be conscious . . . is the only major question in the sciences that we don’t even know how to ask.” One reason why is that scientists are using the brain to try to understand the brain. And just studying the physiology of the brain may not be enough. Consciousness is “one of the most profound mysteries of existence,” observed Dr. David Chalmers, “but knowledge of the brain alone may not get [scientists] to the bottom of it.”

Nonetheless, each of us experiences consciousness. For example, our vivid memories of past events are not mere stored facts, like computer bits of information. We can reflect on our experiences, draw lessons from them, and use them to shape our future. We are able to consider several future scenarios and evaluate the possible effects of each. We have the capacity to analyze, create, appreciate, and love. We can enjoy pleasant conversations about the past, present, and future. We have ethical values about behavior and can use them in making decisions that may or may not be of immediate benefit. We are attracted to beauty in art and morals. In our mind we can mold and refine our ideas and guess how other people will react if we carry these out.
Such factors produce an awareness that sets humans apart from other life-forms on earth. A dog, a cat, or a bird looks in a mirror and responds as if seeing another of its kind. But when you look in a mirror, you are conscious of yourself as a being with the capacities just mentioned. You can reflect on dilemmas, such as: ‘Why do some turtles live 150 years and some trees live over 1,000 years, but an intelligent human makes the news if he reaches 100?’ Dr. Richard Restak states: “The human brain, and the human brain alone, has the capacity to step back, survey its own operation, and thus achieve some degree of transcendence. Indeed, our capacity for rewriting our own script and redefining ourselves in the world is what distinguishes us from all other creatures in the world.”

When the advanced computer Deep Blue vanquished the world champion chess player, the question arose, “Aren’t we forced to conclude that Deep Blue must have a mind?”
  Professor David Gelernter of Yale University replied: “No. Deep Blue is just a machine. It doesn’t have a mind any more than a flowerpot has a mind. . . . Its chief meaning is this: that human beings are champion machine builders.”
  Professor Gelernter pointed to this major difference: “The brain is a machine that is capable of creating an ‘I.’ Brains can summon mental worlds into being, and computers can’t.”
  He concluded: “The gap between human and [computer] is permanent and will never be closed. Machines will continue to make life easier, healthier, richer and more puzzling. And human beings will continue to care, ultimately, about the same things they always have: about themselves, about one another and, many of them, about God. On those terms, machines have never made a difference. And they never will.”


I remember I was sitting in a bar one time and the man next to me asked me if I had ever read the book, 'Dolphins & Mice Are Smarter Than Men' to which I replied, "I certainly have read that book and I understand that the next space shuttle is going to be built and designed by dolphins and mice after which they're going to fill it with water and cheese and fly it off to Mars."

I haven't found an ape yet that can play classical piano, maybe a stirring round of chopsticks....He he I've always wondered if we descended from apes then why are they still around?
Naw, can't agree with you on that one. Man hardly has animal instincts his are much more elevated.

Alcohol can make you such a wonderful smart ass sometimes....(smile)...

Love ya though Celeste!!

Eric

LeeJ
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16 posted 2010-12-20 07:28 AM


Eric, it seems I'm able to find my way back home to find food once in a while...and this ladies food for the soul packs a bit of spicy insight, which is profound....loved this Karen...thanks so much for writing and sharing.
Very much enjoyed...

hugs
Lee J.

ethome
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17 posted 2010-12-20 01:16 PM


LeeJ
I wasn't trying to put Karen down I was just expounding on the subject.
Karen and I go back a long ways and I almost thought she was going to take my advice on time and dance to Procol Harem's "Whiter Shade Of Pale" at her wedding.
We have had some good harmless fun and I love her writing very much.

Take care

Eric

My favorite oxymoron, "rap music"

serenity blaze
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18 posted 2010-12-20 04:55 PM


Eric, we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

We ARE the ape which plays classical piano.

*chuckle*

Didn't mean to spark an evolution debate, although I have studied various viruses in my own body to know that they do evolve, and um, I AM food food for them.

And I managed to be totally smart ass without so much as a grape.

LMAO Thanks Lee, Thanks E.

Love to all.

ethome
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19 posted 2010-12-20 08:48 PM


ROFL!!
He he have a grape anyway.
It's on me.
Those dang viruses eating up a cute lil piano playin ape like you.

Play in again and I'll listen everytime.


Eric

My favorite oxymoron, "rap music"

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