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JerryPat2
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0 posted 2011-04-13 08:06 AM


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amid the paint and solvent
enough to kill
mortals
ah, but Vincent wasn't mortal
was he
the man who painted
amid the swirls inside himself
the ex-minister
who was dismissed because of
overzealousness
we can understand that overzealousness
as we compare his work
with the man
no, I am light years away
from being an art critic
however
I have an understanding of a paranoid
and lacking self-confidence
i.e., Vincent
this painter, this artist
finally had something he felt
he could do
he'd failed at so many jobs
what he couldn't have known
or maybe he did, how can you
say for certain what the insane think

that the world awaited his pleasure
his mental problems
would there even have been a Van Gogh
if he hadn't had mental problem
and if he didn't try to keep
his demons at bay by drinking
absinthe, a toxic dose to be sure
never mind the lead poisoning
from the very paints he used
still
that was that
he was who he was
and the world has been aghast
as they stand and tsk-tsk
viewing the madman's
insanity on parade



~ At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war. ~

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Lori Grosser Rhoden
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1 posted 2011-04-13 08:16 AM


Emily Dickinson said once that "Much madness is divinest sense" I think you have captured that side of Van Gough. Love this piece...I like Van Gough too!
Lori

dreamgal
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2 posted 2011-04-13 08:59 AM


What an intriging picture you painted (pardon the pun) of this fascinating man.
Good job Jerry!

Dreamgal

jwesley
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3 posted 2011-04-13 09:02 AM


Van Gogh has always been one of my 'least' impressive painters , but this very descriptive, well written piece was good to read, my friend.

j.

JerryPat2
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4 posted 2011-04-13 10:02 AM


Lori, appreciate your comments. Madness can be confused with genius, and vice versa. To those who "know" art, i.e., paintings could  see the progression of Gogh's madness through his paintings. I think he was pretty much a third rate painter (some say he still is) until his inner madness took over. I have to admit I like his madness era.

Thanks, dreamgal, for being here and commenting on my effort. it is very much appreciated.

j, your words mean a great deal to me in regard to this poem. thank you.

~ At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war. ~

Honeybunch
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5 posted 2011-04-13 12:14 PM


Maybe his demons were, in fact, everyone's demons but he was just unfortunate to be able to see them.  Enjoyed your poetic assessment.

Helen

JerryPat2
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6 posted 2011-04-13 01:24 PM


Maybe so, Helen. I have battled demons, mine took a more destructive path than did his, well, except for cutting off his ear. Thanks for being here.

~ At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war. ~

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Word Weaver
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7 posted 2011-04-13 02:00 PM


Magnificant piece of art (no pun intended) Jerry. I worked with the mentally ill for several years and there's a very fine line between insanity and genius. This is especially true for those afflicted with schizophrenia. If one really listens to them there's much to be learned from the world they live in.

I always enjoy your writing so much.

Marcia


EmmaRose
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8 posted 2011-04-14 07:34 AM


You put it well..that fine line between, for whatever reason he was a great one, though and we thank him, you too for reminding
JerryPat2
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9 posted 2011-04-14 08:16 AM


Thank you Marcia, I appreciate your kind words. Appreciate you being here.

~ At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war. ~

BluesSerenade
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10 posted 2011-04-15 12:54 PM


You did a beautiful job with this, it is so human and full of insight and honesty.

Good on ya, JP~

faithmairee
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11 posted 2011-04-15 01:01 PM


interesting poem about an interesting man...i've always been intrigued by his work...nice job, JerryPat

There must be a poem in here somewhere.

JerryPat2
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12 posted 2011-04-15 01:28 PM


Hi Blues, thank you very much for the kind, thoughtful comments, they are from the heart appreciated.

Yes, Faith, Gogh was all of that an interesting man to be sure. I doubt he could have conceived in his twisted mind that the would become one of the most sought-after artists in the world.

~ At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war. ~

OwlSA
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13 posted 2011-04-15 05:14 PM


Jerry, I loved your poem very much - a very honest and interesting collection of viewpoints in it and in the ensuing discussions - Kacy (Midnitesun), a much loved, revered and missed poet in Pip, and a very dear friend of mine and many, many others, who left this mortal coil before you joined Pip, wrote very different poetry about her Vincent, but I think she would have been the very first one to applaud and agree with and enjoy your poem.  I am so very sad she isn't here to read and enjoy your poem and to share her opinions about Van Gogh with you.  She was 2 weeks younger than me, to the day.

Owl

JerryPat2
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14 posted 2011-04-15 05:21 PM


Who knows Owl? Some say they can see us, so maybe she has read the poem.

~ At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war. ~

OwlSA
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15 posted 2011-04-16 01:16 AM


That was exactly what I was feeling when I wrote my reply, despite what I said, but dismissed the thought - how silly of me - I know she read it and smiled!  You are so right, Jerry.

Owl

steavenr
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16 posted 2011-04-17 08:31 PM


"no, I am light years away
from being an art critic"

...would you permit me to differ? ...I subscribe to the doctrine that he who feels he can critique is he who rarely can...your critique was excellent, guided with keen observations (with the eye of a true artist--accent on the second syllable, rhyming with feast...) nicely done

JerryPat2
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17 posted 2011-04-17 08:58 PM


All right, I thank you kindly, steavenr, for your generous comments. Hah! I got ya on the accent. Very appreciative.

~ Don't insult the alligator till after you cross the river. ~

Juju
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18 posted 2011-04-17 09:22 PM


I think mental illness is a conformists way of saying different of creative.

I can honestly say, I wouldn't change my heart aches or my silly thought for mundane normal. my goal in life is not things of this world!!(:

-Juju

-"So you found a girl
Who thinks really deep thoughts
What's so amazing about really deep thoughts " Silent all these Years, Tori Amos

JerryPat2
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19 posted 2011-04-17 10:25 PM


This poem wasn't about you, but I do appreciate your comments.

~ Don't insult the alligator till after you cross the river. ~

Margherita
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20 posted 2011-04-18 06:30 AM


The human mind is so extremely fascinating! It's such a vast playground if one dares to play and sometimes only those who dare to look over the hedge tap into the fullness of their creativity.

I love your approach to the phenomen of Van Gogh, dear Jerry. It's a beautiful, insightful tribute. And I love how he inspired you to write this poem and to share the fabulous Starry Night.

Love,
Margherita

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