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Abe
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Looks like Vero Beach, FL until the end!

0 posted 2008-07-10 11:00 AM



Rum-De-Dum-Dumb!

Those drums are beating once again
As we try to force our will, once more
Has our government come to the point
Thinking, all can be, resolved by war?

Maybe with some more negotiations
And the “resolve”, Bush speaks about
Instead of, jumping the gun (no pun)
The war in Iraq, we could be, without!

Seems all they know is, threaten
To send missiles, ships and planes
But, as the war in Iraq proves
The threats and problem, still remains.

We always say, we just want peace
And only, want to do what’s right
If that is so, then I wonder why
All we do is send our young to fight?

Sometimes, in our short history
We have had no other recourse
Like during the Second World War
We had no choice, but to use force.

We have a huge diplomatic corps
Who are supposed to use diplomacy
Seems they need, a refresher course
On what their job’s, supposed to be.

But, that’s probably not too fair
Because, the word comes from the top
And the mentality of, “Bring them on!”
Is stupid, and really needs to stop.

We say, we are the greatest nation
But, the way to prove that, true
Is governed by the way we act
And, by all of the things we do.

We aren’t the Worlds policemen
Although, at times, that’s how we act
There are, other customs and beliefs
Like it or not, that is, an actual fact!

Too often, when we go to war
It’s not for the reasons, that we say
It’s so the corporations can get rich
From the price of pain and death we pay.

Ten thousand years man has had wars
For one dumb reason or another
Many times the battles fought
Was with, brother against brother.

If we truly are the greatest country
With all the power we think we wield
It seems we could find a better way
Than on some bloody, battlefield.

Let’s show we really are the leaders
And try some brain, instead of brawn
But, I guess that will be impossible
Until, those DC “cowboys” are gone.


07.10.2007

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.  It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.And when the drums of war reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has 'closed', the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all their rights unto the leader and gladly so.How do I know? For this is what I have done. AND I AM CAESAR."
Unknown

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt

"You Can't Solve a Problem, with the Same Mind Set That Created It !"
Albert Einstein

interesting reading at  http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/war.htm


Del "Abe" Jones
Mankind's greatest accomplishment is not the revolution of technology, it is the evolution of creativity.



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Robert E. Jordan
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1 posted 2008-07-10 11:43 AM


Yo Abe,

This is fine work, and I agree wit youse.

Bobby

OLIAS
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2 posted 2008-07-10 01:09 PM


In total agreement here, good write sir and an important message.

Regards,
OLIAS

Ericc
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3 posted 2008-07-10 03:52 PM


Powerful message in beautiful
form.
Thank you.

Eric

JamesMichael
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4 posted 2008-07-10 04:52 PM


I agree that in the Second World War we had no recourse but to use force, but I would like to add the Twin Towers...although bin Laden was supposed to be the object of the force...James
Abe
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since 2003-05-28
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Looks like Vero Beach, FL until the end!
5 posted 2008-07-10 05:09 PM


Yeah!  And we'd have had him if we'd "stayed the course"!  And four thousand might still be alive.

Del "Abe" Jones
Mankind's greatest accomplishment is not the revolution of technology, it is the evolution of creativity.

scoff
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6 posted 2008-07-10 07:11 PM


I'll let Mark Twain speak for me:

"The loud little handful - as usual - will shout for the war. The pulpit will - warily and cautiously - object - at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, "It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it." Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers--as earlier-- but do not dare to say so. And now the whole nation - pulpit and all -  will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

Chapter 9, The Mysterious Stranger, 1910

Some things never change.

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7 posted 2008-07-19 03:06 AM


Abe,

Your message is heard and agreed with.  Let's bring this back to the top for a bit.

Alison

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