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2islander2
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0 posted 2008-06-01 12:06 PM


Amis, si vous voyez le mouton noir, mettez le dans le champ d'à côté, ne le laissez pas manger votre bonheur, le bonheur est comme l'herbe, si le mouton  vient dans vos jardins, il ne restera pas un brin de cette herbe précieuse, Amis, ne laissez pas la dépression, elle est comme un mouton dans les jardins....


Friends, if you see
the black sheep,
put it in the field of close,
do not let it
eat your happiness,
the happiness is as the herb,
if the sheep
comes in your gardens,
there will be no stalk
of this precious herb,
Friends,
don't allow depression
to linger in your mind,
it is as a sheep in gardens....


© Copyright 2008 yann rolland - All Rights Reserved
Margherita
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1 posted 2008-06-01 12:32 PM



You are so right, dear Yann. We should not permit depression to get the better of us, I love the metaphor.

It's mostly a question of a feeling of being unloved ... may we always know that we are loved!

This is a very significant write that should be taken to heart by all!

Love,
Margherita

2islander2
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2 posted 2008-06-01 12:53 PM


Margherita, thank you for your warm comment, I appreciated your thoughts that are very helpful,

  thank you very much.

         yann

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3 posted 2008-06-01 03:09 PM


This poem speaks to me....
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4 posted 2008-06-01 03:36 PM


Wonderful!
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5 posted 2008-06-01 04:26 PM


Yann, you are a modern day Aesop with these wonderful Fables of yours!

By the way, you are giving me a refresher course in French by showing us the French version along with the English one. Merci, beaucoups, mon ami cher!

Linda

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6 posted 2008-06-01 05:28 PM


yann, this is a great write. Perfect comparison.
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7 posted 2008-06-03 07:44 AM


Mon ami, j’aime tellement ton poème.  Il me fait penser à la manière que parle le petit prince d’Antoine de Saint Éxupéry, quand il parle des baobabs – même de ses amis – comme le renard et la rose.  Ma problème est que j’aime tous les animaux du monde – même les moutons noirs – où, au moins, les vrais moutons noirs!  Mais oui, je comprends bien ce que tu dis, et j’éspère, de tout mon coeur, et contre ma crainte, que cette affliction ne te trouble pas.

J'éspère que mes réponses en français n'irritent pas les autres lecteurs, mais je trouve de grand plaisir à parler cette belle langue.

- Owl

Ray Sharpe
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8 posted 2008-06-03 08:28 AM


As someone who has got through a depression following a marriage break up and the death of a parent in the last few years this work is pure truth.

I love your poems yann......more please!

Prasad Nataraj
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9 posted 2008-06-03 08:29 AM


A black sheep we should always keep away from. Wonderful write.

"Hardwork pays in the long run"

2islander2
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10 posted 2008-06-03 11:00 AM


Hi Xtr3 and Midnitsun for your nice comments.....I wait for your next poems.


    yann

2islander2
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11 posted 2008-06-03 11:03 AM


Dear Linda, I'm glad you made that comment and appreciate you write a few words in french.

merci ma chère amie (not mon amie chère)
in french sometimes we put the adjective (not usually) before the name....

  huglets

   yann

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12 posted 2008-06-03 11:08 AM


Dear Owl, thank you for the comparison with the petit Prince, I think it is perhaps the most important book of the 20th century, for me it is a book i will gift to anyone I care, everyone should read this one, its simple, loving, poetic, philosophical, wise, etc, etc....

merci beaucoup pour tes gentils mots.

   yann

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13 posted 2008-06-03 11:10 AM


Thank You Tina and Nataraj for your warm comments.It's always a pleasure.

   yann

  

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14 posted 2008-06-03 11:13 AM


Thank you Ray for sharing,I have been depressed many years and I know that there is no happiness at all with it.


     Have a nice day

       yann

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15 posted 2008-06-03 11:43 AM


I like your reference to depression being like a sheep in a garden, yann. I know a few people who could benefit from your wise words. Bravo!
                            Ida

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16 posted 2008-06-03 11:50 AM


yes, it is truth said in a wrap of poetic imaginations

clever talks delay friendship!

2islander2
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17 posted 2008-06-03 04:23 PM


Thank You Ida and poddarku for your nice comments....

  yann

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18 posted 2008-06-03 05:55 PM


Yann,

This is a good poem, about a good idea.  Sometimes I feel that I'm not bright enough to be depressed.  Perhaps I've been depressed, and just didn't know it.  I think depression is probably what we see in other people.

Bobby

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19 posted 2008-06-04 12:30 PM


I knew it!  I just knew you had to have read and had to love Le Petit Prince!  I agree with every word you say and imply about it.  I read it (the English translation, though) to my children, and gave it to my grandson and to an ex-boyfriend.  It was a setbook several years when I was teaching French, and what a wonderful book to examine in detail with whole classes of pupils, in its original beautiful French.  I often used the English translation when I was teaching English first and second language.

I love your writing.  The French influence is very evident - not just the feel of Prévert and Saint-Exupéry, but the cinematographical brilliance of French films, too, as well as le mot juste.

- Owl

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20 posted 2008-06-04 03:36 PM


Thank You Owl for your very nice comment, I'm honored to be influenced by such writers...
Plus you are totally right, I'm passionnate of cinema...

Have a nice day
  yann  

2islander2
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21 posted 2008-06-04 03:40 PM


Thank you Bobby, in fact we must go out of depression to know that we were depressed , for me it took 20 years,

Thank you for your comment

   yann

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22 posted 2008-06-05 03:34 AM


Oh, good!  I am delighted to see that your depression is a thing of the past.  You are living proof that even 20 years of it can be conquered!  Smiles.

- Owl

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23 posted 2008-06-05 04:54 AM


Nice writing...James
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24 posted 2008-06-06 02:35 AM


Dear 2islander2,

          Have you had a chance to read any John Ashberry?  He has, at least in the past, written in French and translated into English, and there is a lilt and twirl to his poetry that reflects that in a happy fashion.  Have a look at The Tennis Court Oath, thematically more familiar of course to a francophone than an anglophone and Self Portrait in A Convex Mirror should the idea interest you enough to follow up on it.  

     I am, myself, envious, being illiterate in several languages, most notably English.  Being illiterate I can suggest that le champ d'à côté probably doesn't  translate as "the field of close."  We're going back to an 18th and 19th century English distinction here between land that was owned by somebody's landlord and was either agricultural or grazing land.  For the grazing land, which was much more lucrative for the landowners and ruinous for the tenants, fences were set up along the boundaries.  The legal instruments that allowed for this were called the Enclosure Acts and were passed by the Parliament primarily in the early 19th century.  The overflow of population went to the cities.

     Streets with fenced off areas are still called, occasionally, "a close."  And sometimes specialized, walled gardens are called "enclosed gardens."  The exact translation, alas, escapes me.  In this context, however, you might consider either "pen" or "pasture."  And perhaps, "not a stalk will remain."  You will have a better sense of the French than I do, of course; and, more than that, a better sense of what you're looking for.

     I thought this poem was a lot of fun, unlike the head-pounding depression, which provides very little by way of amusement at all.
Best wishes, BobK.

2islander2
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25 posted 2008-06-06 07:16 AM


Hello Bob, thank you for your constructive and very interesting comment, I was happy to discover such a comment.

I think I could replace the field of close by
the bordering field
and there will be no stalk
by
there will be no blade

I'm very pleased you took time to read my poem.

Have a nice day

  yann

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26 posted 2008-06-06 01:38 PM


Thank you, Yann.  

[This message has been edited by Bob K (06-06-2008 07:35 PM).]

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