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Lobsang
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since 2008-05-14
Posts 55


0 posted 2008-05-16 02:40 AM



My poem was deleated
I really meant no harm
It must have upset someone
And caused some great alarm

It delt with a true story
That happened at a school
There was a lot of violence
Bullets were the tool

A young man was so very sick
He hurt a lot of people
But what he did is part of life
Sometimes life is evil

I tried to get inside his head
And illustrate his pain
The poem was a good one
But it was not sweet and tame

When artistic freedom is suppressed
It is not a happy thing
It's like taking a little bird
And cutting off his wing

There are many sides of life
All valid in the art
Poetry should explore
Each and every part

To understand humanity
We must see every side
When an art is censored
We are being taken for a ride

To be a complete person
You have to hear the truth
Not just creme and roses
But things like ripping out a tooth

When people cannot read about
All parts of the mind
The end result is thought control
Your freedom they do bind

© Copyright 2008 Lobsang - All Rights Reserved
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1 posted 2008-05-16 08:39 AM


yes, but did you read the guidelines you agreed to, when joining pip? Just because it really happened doesn't make it ok for all eyes. Read the guidelines. If you don't know if it can be posted, ask a moderator to read it first. Just because you think it should be posted, doesn't make it ok. Again please, read the guidelines! That is the most common mistake new members make, they don't take the guidelines seriously and think they should be able to post whatever they want. The reality of that is, this web site is owned by Ron and he wants it a certain way, that is why there are guidelines to begin with. Welcome to Pip.
Marilyn
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since 1999-09-26
Posts 2621
Ontario, Canada
2 posted 2008-05-16 11:07 AM


Hello,

I understand what you are saying and you have a right to your feelings. ok...yes...here comes the but...lol.

This site is a family site. Some work is not appropriate for young eyes. There are forums here that you can post more adult material. If the poem is still deemed inappropriate...you have the option of posting it on your own web site where anyone can read or another poetry site that allows anything to be posted.

We do agree to a code of conduct when we sign up to this web site. It was put in place so that we could express ourselves with out running into offensive material and replies. There are many poetry sites on the web and many of them let you post anything you wish. Many of us here have been part of those in the past and we are at PIP BECAUSE of the guidelines sent out by Ron.

In my opinion, this is the greatest poetry site on the web.

Marilyn

Lobsang
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since 2008-05-14
Posts 55

3 posted 2008-05-16 12:10 PM


Well Ok....But I am at a loss as to why there is an adult section on the site if it is a family site.  This makes sure that kids do not read the material.  I can certainly understand being concerned with "encouraging violence".  But to illustrate what a violent person was thinking is not encouraging.  But I do like the forum and will try to comply with the rules.  Even though those rules are suppressive of artistic expression. I just think that if one is advcating the arts it must be all of the art.  I would submit that there needs to be a special section for such material where children's eyes do not go.  I simply thought that there would be no problem posting in the over 18 section.  I certainly respect the owners right to control their own forum.  All I am doing is pointing out whart I perceive as a artistically detramental use of the right.  
Robert E. Jordan
Member Rara Avis
since 2008-01-25
Posts 8541
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
4 posted 2008-05-16 01:26 PM


Yo Lobsang,

If you really work at it, you can still sneak the truth in on this site.

Bobby

r v wooo
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since 2007-08-07
Posts 656

5 posted 2008-05-16 02:02 PM


hummm, individual freedom in the anthill  or beehive of humanity...what is its evolutionary value to the species? was saddam hussein a visionary ahead of his time...me thinks, not! but, then, who am i to question or render an opinion?
Marchmadness
Member Rara Avis
since 2007-09-16
Posts 9271
So. El Monte, California
6 posted 2008-05-16 02:26 PM


There are other sites that allow you to write pretty much what you like (of course you also have to wade though a lot of garbage on some of these sites.) Perhaps you should try Americam Poems for your more adult subjects. Just a sugestion.
                                     Ida

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7 posted 2008-05-16 03:13 PM


I certainly respect the owners right to control their own forum.

Good. That's all that needs to be said. There are other forums here where you can give opinions, make suggestions or challenge the rules (good luck with that one), I suggest you try them....actually, I suggest you don't try them and just be part of the site with you poetry and friendship, but if you feel that it is fine for a new member to come in and show dissent against the rules he agreed to follow, then use one of the appropriate forums, please.

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