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Under the Banner of Heaven

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Marchmadness
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0 posted 09-24-2007 01:20 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to Submit your Poem to Passions  View IP for Marchmadness


Under the banner of heaven
Dwell those who have "seen the light"
Who would be willing to shed your blood
If you don't get your theology "right."

Under the banner of heaven
Are those who judge, deceive and kill
To spread their doctrine of love and peace
And bend non-believers to their will.

Under the banner of heaven
The truth is not as it may seem.
The reality is, and has always been,
That the end justifies the means.

Under the banner of heaven
Lies a history of blood and fire
And an endless struggle for power
By tyrants who never tire.

But under the banner of heaven
There's the eternal truth of the source,
That the message of love and peace will triumph
When it is not delivered by force.

© Copyright 2007 Ida Werrett - All Rights Reserved
Artic Wind
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1 posted 09-24-2007 01:23 PM       View Profile for Artic Wind   Email Artic Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Artic Wind

"But under the banner of heaven
There's the eternal truth of the source,
That the message of love and peace will triumph
When it is not delivered by force."

BEAUTIFUL, love your poetry, always a pleasure

ARCTIC WIND
Marchmadness
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2 posted 09-24-2007 01:27 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

Thank you Actic wind, I enjoy your poetry as well.
Artic Wind
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3 posted 09-24-2007 01:30 PM       View Profile for Artic Wind   Email Artic Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Artic Wind

REALLY!


wow, thank you lol


ARCTIC WIND
JamesMichael
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4 posted 09-24-2007 02:30 PM       View Profile for JamesMichael   Email JamesMichael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JamesMichael

There have always been believers and non-believers...it has always been a choice...James
Marchmadness
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5 posted 09-24-2007 02:42 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

I respect all opinions.
ameteurpoet101
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6 posted 09-24-2007 04:21 PM       View Profile for ameteurpoet101   Email ameteurpoet101   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ameteurpoet101

i appreciatiate all expressions because its comes from the voice within .this peom is well.... wow!
Marchmadness
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7 posted 09-24-2007 05:46 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

And I apreciate people like you Ameteurpoet 101. Thank you

The Lady
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8 posted 09-25-2007 08:07 PM       View Profile for The Lady   Email The Lady   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for The Lady


powerful piece Ida
I enjoyed it

Marchmadness
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9 posted 09-25-2007 11:28 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

Thank you Lady, I was a little worried about being burned at the stake for this one.
I don't think everybody appreciates it but you know, a real poet has to write what they feel.
                                  Ida
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10 posted 09-29-2007 02:32 PM       View Profile for EagleScorpion   Email EagleScorpion   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for EagleScorpion

BRAVO AND SAVED TO BE READ OVER AND OVER AGAIN
wow


me and you would make great friends.
Marchmadness
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11 posted 09-29-2007 06:19 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

Hi Eagle scorpion,
    Yes, I'll bet we would make great friends, so I'll just consider you a friend from now on. Not everyone is as pleased with this poem as you are. I think there are some who would like to crucify me for expressing these thoughts but a true poet expresses what they feel. That's what poetry is all about.

                                Ida
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12 posted 11-05-2007 03:48 AM       View Profile for ivordavies   Email ivordavies   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for ivordavies

Ida,

I think judging from the comments that this went down well, as it should of done!

Not sure why you thought it hadn't or was you refereing to another site...

Ivor
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enjoyed
Earth Angel
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14 posted 11-05-2007 01:58 PM       View Profile for Earth Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Earth Angel's Home Page   View IP for Earth Angel

"That the message of love and peace will triumph
When it is not delivered by force."

~ Amen to that, Dear Ida!

A fine write with a great message!

Love, Harmony, & World Peace,
Linda
Marchmadness
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15 posted 11-05-2007 02:23 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

Hi Ivor,
  I'm sorry, I should have explained further.
I posted this poem first in another room on this site and a couple of other sites and it was not well received. Many of the people here are very nice and judged the poem on it's merits instead of their opinion of the subject.
                                  Ida
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Yes, there are many and have been many atrocities performed "under the banner of heaven".  I don't understand how some can object to what you have written because what you speak about has happened and is happening. You certainly haven't sucked the basis of this poem out of your thumb so well done on speaking out.  And I did enjoy the way you spoke out.  A good and thought provoking poem.

Helen  
secondhanddreampoet
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17 posted 11-05-2007 08:23 PM       View Profile for secondhanddreampoet   Email secondhanddreampoet   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for secondhanddreampoet

a fine, timely, and 'important' write!

There is often an incredible dichotomy (virtually a 'Grand Canyon') between
"organized religion" and true "Christianity!"  For centuries, "It is God's Will"
has been the excuse for 'Crusades' (and other warfare); genocide/ethnic
cleansing; terrorism; etc. The often atrocious and unconscionable behavior
of individuals and groups acting acting under a banner of one 'organized religion'
or another (allegedly in the name of God) has been the scourge of human history.  

Applause!!
Marchmadness
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18 posted 11-05-2007 08:39 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

Thank you all for your comments.
Bruce. There will come a time when people will think for themselves. You and some of the others who have responded here are proof of that. When people realize that most religions preach love and peace and then kill each other to achieve it, maybe the light will come on.
                                 Ida
JamesMichael
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19 posted 11-06-2007 04:56 PM       View Profile for JamesMichael   Email JamesMichael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JamesMichael

I'm confused, with your words you have expressed your opinion and yet you seem to imply that you don't welcome others opinions...James
Marchmadness
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20 posted 11-06-2007 08:25 PM       View Profile for Marchmadness   Email Marchmadness   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Marchmadness

James.
  I welcome all opinions but insist on being able to have my own as well. I did not say that I cannot take the critisism. I just said this poem did not go over well on another sight. A fact.
                                   Ida
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I found this one in the attic. I dusted it off.
It is a diamond of wisdom.
E
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