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Roysie
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0 posted 2007-08-10 08:53 AM



Oh love
Taunting me still after all these years
Dreams washed up on bygone beach
Memories dim but for the fire in those eyes
Haunting me though I choose not to go there
Oh love
Forgive my callous youth misspent
My days of wine and roses
Pursuing always the unattainable
Neglecting your gift so full of promise
Oh love
Where is she now in your realm
Obedient to some stranger of fortune
Mother earth to the heart of another
Or drifting alone on fates cruel sea
Oh love
Banish me now from your kingdom alone
Wreck my ship on some blissful shore
Never knowing your elegant graces
and dreaming of lost love no more

© Copyright 2007 Roysie - All Rights Reserved
Professor Gloom
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1 posted 2007-08-10 09:04 AM


For someone the critiques about lack of rhyme, I find this 'smug'.  I know poetry and believe it or not, this fits the very broad definition ( both rhyme and meter do not make a poem, as this shows ).  Now do I like this?  Perhaps, but I'll reserve judgement till you form a larger volumn here to read.

Gloom

Roysie
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2 posted 2007-08-10 09:22 AM


Morning Gloom, Hey I think there's a poem there isn't there? Firstly Jack and Jill rhyme makes my skin crawl. That particular critique/poem really needed some rhyme to break and enliven the dialogue which I felt was running into it's self. Secondly I know you like this piece because it's wonderful. It's the only "love" poem I have ever written and after reading ENDLESS SAPPY CRAPPOLA AD NAUSEUM I thought I should try my hand. Hopefully I managed to avoid the aforementioned. Last but not least it is most certainly not smug. I can still see her face after thirty years.
Larry C
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3 posted 2007-08-10 01:38 PM


Roy,
I indeed liked this. But then I'm a died in the wool romantic. Roysie maybe in you can go to the members area and click on changing your profile and set yourself to be critiqued. You can even offer a description of what your willing to accept. This is mine:
"Tenderness is not resented...besides I don't believe everything I read."

Prof,
Do you always grade this hard? Roysie has been addressing the critique issue even with an apology.

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane,
I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

Roysie
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4 posted 2007-08-10 02:37 PM


Thanks Larry already did that first thing this morning. Regards Roy
PS Don't worry the Prof likes it also.

JamesMichael
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5 posted 2007-08-10 05:21 PM


Enjoyed reading this...I have found that for a heart to move away from someone special, someone just as special is required to move towards...love is a verb...James
Professor Gloom
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6 posted 2007-08-11 01:02 AM



Seems you wish to hold the Arrogance to yourself, please disassociate me from the conceit.  Firstly, I said this was a poem “I know poetry and believe it or not, this fits the very broad definition”.  Secondly, how could you possibly know what I like?  Have you read the volume of my work including the critique I have given throughout the decades of my writing?  The idea of what makes a poem or not has been a heated debate for me at times, especially back in the 90’s on another website.  How do you think I weighed in to that?  
The romantic poets at Passions (perhaps the name of the site could be taken as a clue, or perhaps you wish to remain clueless) tend to enjoy the Sappy poems.  Many here tend to over enjoy Sappy Love poems, as Sir Paul said in his song, “What’s wrong with that?”
Lastly, the smug was not for the content of the poem, but the poem itself.  Seems you attempted to make some amends for you harsh critique, but left others out which you offended.

Larry C, yes always unless restricted.

Post script, I decided I do not like this.

Gloom

Edward Grim
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7 posted 2007-08-11 01:15 AM


Umm,

quote:
Secondly I know you like this piece because it's wonderful.


quote:
Last but not least it is most certainly not smug.



Telling someone that they should like your poem because it is "wonderful" sounds pretty smug to me. Just my opinion I suppose.

And the poem... I didn't really see anything different in there. I admit, I don't particularly care for love poems but this seemed the same as many other poems on the topic. I didn't see where it offered anything new. Again, just my opinion.

"Well I wish that you would cheat with someone, 'cause you're like diggin' holes in water and we know that can't be done."

Roysie
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8 posted 2007-08-11 07:21 AM


Gentlemen, I stated the poem was not smug. My reply to you most certainly was. Even Mr. Yeats doesn't appeal to everyone. When I say it's good or it's wonderful I mean it has literary merit in my humble opinion. You are correct "Professor" I don't know you and I don't give a rats ass whether you like it or not to be honest. I've read enough to know what's good and whats not. Speaking of which I'm really looking forward to reading some of your work. I don't have time this morning but soon I know I'll have the dubious pleasure. You can count on one thing from me always and that's honesty. Have a great day, Roy
Edward Grim
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9 posted 2007-08-11 03:21 PM


Hi Roy! How's it going? I see you don't like critique. You should probably think about changing the "Bring it on by all means." statement; people might get confused that you actually want to hear what they have to say. But I'm glad you don't give a rat's ass; I don't have any to spare either.

Have a good one man.

"Well I wish that you would cheat with someone, 'cause you're like diggin' holes in water and we know that can't be done."

Roysie
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10 posted 2007-08-12 07:29 AM


Some poets today are truly elite
they offer their tomes for review
quite often neglecting the reader alas
while searching for anything new
No wisdom too forthright for
these noble scribes
no comedy writ to amuse
no simple expressions of
love realized
or generous feelings imbued
Oh no they say gladly
we're better than that
we scoff at your sad mercantile
and only desire one purpose in life
to sadden sweet William awhile

Edward Grim
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Greenville, South Carolina
11 posted 2007-08-12 01:32 PM


lol


"Well I wish that you would cheat with someone, 'cause you're like diggin' holes in water and we know that can't be done."

Roysie
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12 posted 2007-08-12 01:46 PM


Careful Eddie or I'll be forced to review some of your "work."
Edward Grim
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Posts 1154
Greenville, South Carolina
13 posted 2007-08-12 02:08 PM


I find it hilarious that you actually consider that a threat. I'm glad you took my advice and removed the "Bring it on by all means." from your critique thing. Good move.

And you can review my work any time, but I might not give your opinion too much thought because anybody that says something like:

"No wisdom too forthright for
these noble scribes"

Probably wouldn't even understand the first stanza of a poem written by yours truly. I'm not saying I'm some great poet (I don't believe I am) it's just we have very different styles and you more than likely "won't get it" for lack of a better term. Ain't nothin' wrong with that Rosie.

I may not be crazy about your poetry, but I'm starting to like you though. I hope you stick around, seriously, you're fun. Cheers.

"Well I wish that you would cheat with someone, 'cause you're like diggin' holes in water and we know that can't be done."

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