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Standing Up for Gays with God |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
ok, i feel i should state my case and VP here. i do not believe that homosexuality is jsut another way of life, i think its wrong and a serious sin. but i do accept them, and have no problem with homosexuals. this is where this poem comes in. its kinda old, but this christian friend i have was rejecting this gay friend that we both have, because "of his religion" and i got so mad bc umm hello!!!!! God loves everyone including homosexuals and he was treating and preaching the wrong thing to our friend. so yea i was ticked off at him. then i showed him this and a whole mess of bible verses to show that he was wrong, and he got mad at me cuz hes a senior...lol and im not..way younger. so he was ticked that he got demoted by a younger GIRL too. so n e ways. i have no problem with the people, homosexuality does not freak me, but i do not stand up for their rights to like marry..cuz, i believe it wrong. so yea. hpe u guys like  We are God's creation No matter what we do Homosexuals and their sins are Exactly the same as me or you God said that it's wrong But lying is also a sin Both are abominations And both are equal to Him No sin's greater than another Says the Lord above All people are God's children Whom He commanded us to love You can't jsut label them off As things to be rejected Since no one is perfect and we're equal Then no one should be accepted Our theme verse is "Love one another As I have loved you" But you're jsut pushing them away That kindlove ain't true People think it's right to shun their kind But God has open arms for them People are so blind Do you think that God would reject those kids Because of what they do? He hates the sin, but He loves them As much as He loves you Some people are born with it Some people convert Either way christians these days Are just causing them to hurt With God all things are possible So it's possible to change But some sins you struggle with forever God understands that most of the time We stay the same If He doesn't know that Then we don't have to worry Because He's not God and He isn't holy He's expecting too much From an imperfect race And we'll never be good enough To see His face So treat your friends with love Despite all their wrongs Cause God does that for you Cause no one is perfect or that strong When a christian tells you one thing Back it up with Truth Otherwise you'll just be preaching lies Corrupting young lives, making them think like you. only a vampire can love you forever. |
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fromme2U Member
since 2007-11-09
Posts 257 |
I think that your very wise for your age especially because of your religion you are one of the few people who really know how to follow the true meaning of the word of god (I am not religious)per say but I think you saying you accept gay's is quite a mature action. nice write. |
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starpower Member
since 2007-04-10
Posts 82Utah |
Wow I love this poem you made send me an email because I stand up in (God) |
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Falling rain
since 2008-01-31
Posts 2178Small town, Illinois |
Great. Now i know someone else who has the same philosophy as me about god and how people treat gay's. This is going in my library! ~Zach~ |
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justanotherstorm Member
since 2007-10-24
Posts 321 |
wow this made me cry i agree with you (of course) well kewl poem |
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pen&paper Senior Member
since 2006-06-06
Posts 513 |
Oh, wow, I loved this! I have the same beliefs about homosexuality (I mean, I'm Catholic, for goodness' sake) but I feel horrible that people are always making fun of and rejecting gays. Going in my library. Excellent poem. |
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XxForever.BrokenxX Senior Member
since 2008-01-20
Posts 891Neverland |
I totally agree! great poem. The concept just reminded me of this thing my school did...but it was just to do with bullying. But n e way, yeah.....Great poem! {~~*~~} {&}Love*liesOfBeauty~[NowColdInMyHand] |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
wow thanks u guys. im glad u liked it. i hoped it would get everyones attention. fromme2u: thank u but yes i really hate it when ppl are trying to go all relgious on ppl but they dont even know what they takling about. i may be young, but u know what, im more mature when it comes to God and His Word ( and hopefully other things in life as well) than most of these ppl who think they are good cux they went relgious u know?starpower:WELCOME TO PIPTALK! thanx! and yea i saw the message, im reply to it l8r zack!!! aww thank u! im glad u feel same way! and thanks only a vampire can love you forever. |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
justantherstorm: awwww u did?? thats sweet, im glad. u know u may say that u dont know me, but im still the same. i still stand up for u guys, my thoughts havent changed. when i researched the bible ididnt jsut do it for u, i did it for everyone and now i tell everyone the truth. and since ive gotten closer to god this yr, ppl actually listen to me. n e who, i want u to come to this thing tonight, its like a concert that ive been oging to all week. everyones coming (lisa, amanda, pricilla and her whole entire family, vanessa valedez ) but n e who they do stuff like this ( and if ur free like u say u say, or want to get free\) then i think u would really enjoy it. dont say no cuz of me, cuz i wouldnt b with u n e way, im siging on stage. but please call lisa or myself, we really want u to come (call even if ur gunna say know so that we know) and well give u the info. please? at least let us know only a vampire can love you forever. |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
pen and paper, and foreverbroken: thanks u guys! i know totally! im glad that u guys agree, and i encourage u to stand up tell them the truth, expecially u penandpaper, u have a bible lol n e ways thanks again only a vampire can love you forever. |
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SEA 
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
how can you say you stand up for them but believe it's wrong for them to marry? You contradict yourself. They can have some rights, but not all of them? You need to rethink that, rethink what you said before the poem...you are saying I don't agree with them, I think what they are doing is a serious sin, but God loves everyone? Make up your mind. It's either a sin or God loves them....you can't have it both ways...it's like you are saying it's a sin but that is ok....???huh??? You sound like a politician....think about it. |
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Marge Tindal
since 1999-11-06
Posts 42384Florida's Foreverly Shores |
Read the poem ... it's okay, but I'll have to join in with SEA on what I think of your disclaimer~ How do you get to CHOOSE which 'rights' they have ? If it's up to God ... it's up to God~ Anything else is waffling~ So, umm hello!!!!! ~*Marge*~ ~*The sound of a kiss is not as strong as that of a cannon, but it's echo endures much longer*~ |
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sandgrain Member Elite
since 1999-09-21
Posts 3662Sycamore, IL, USA |
When Jesus came upon those about to stone the prostitute, He said, "You, who are without sin, cast the first stone." In other words, we all have sinned. That is what I see in this situation. Jesus didn't deny the prostitute's sin, or change His mind about it, but he loved the prostitute, telling her, "Go and sin no more." What chance would she have to repent if she were stoned to death? Why did those ready to stone her, feel they had the right to, since they, too, were sinners? Most parents love their children while hating the sin the child commits. That's my 2 cents worth. Rae |
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SEA
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since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
what I wonder? what makes anyone think God "hates" anything at all? |
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justanotherstorm Member
since 2007-10-24
Posts 321 |
omg my grandma got in2 a car accident please pray 4 her kk n ummmm can i print this..ill go if u tell me more info |
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crimsonXnails Member
since 2008-02-10
Posts 108dark/little/heavan.:*:. |
hey hey, sand grain, you are totally right! God can love the sinner, yet hate the sin (which is more than i can say for humans... we're so judgemental) thanx fer the awsome poem leah, you are so awsome! i deffinately agree with all of it. we should accept everyone, fer who they are, not what they do or choose. !Tracey! if you can touch me, i know i'm still only dying |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
sea: has anyone ever done u wrong so bad, but u still cared for them and still loved them? but u hated that they hurt u? have u ever heard of someone in a relationship getting seriously hurt, someone getting dumped or cheated on, but one person still loves the other despite that they did horrible things? thats what God does for us everyday. he loves us so much, but we hurt him every time that we do wrong. which is all the time every day bc humans arent perfect. sin is suseptile(sp?? i know i spelled it wrong..)to everyone, but he still loved us and still died for us. and as i wrote in the poem, all sins are equal. so the lie that u told a week ago, is just as bad as having sex with the same sex. the things are do are just as bad, God doesnt measure sins bc they are all bad.hahah lol if i ever become a politician, ill know wut the heck im talking about unlike some ppl we know...lol marge: i dont get to choose which rights they have. sandgrain: yea u totally have the idea! thank u! justanotherstorm: dude i totally am, keep me updated ok haha yea u can print it. i think u can send it to ur email from here too. crimson nails: tracy, ur awsome too!!! and thank u! i love u all, and thanks again! only a vampire can love you forever. |
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hunnie_girl
since 2006-06-18
Posts 2567Canada |
I agree.. with some points in this poem... like no one should have to be scared about being who they are and having those feelings.. I was reading a christian teen magazine a while ago and it said that gay people were wrong and it is their fault they are gay.. well hello no one wants to be gay and different from other people.. I was very mad at the magazine!! who are they to say what is right and wrong. I don't see why it is wrong anyway.. its not harming anyone so it shouln't matter.. I do think they should be allowed to marry thought and have the same couples rights and stuff like everyone else.... |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
krysti, christians dont decide what is right and wrong, we read it in the bible. and it specifically says not to lay with a man as with a woman(speaking to the man) and other various places where god says he despises it. i mean think about it...it causes sicknesses, diseases, stds, y would something good do that? god created sex for a man and a woman, thats y everything...like works...physically...u know? when two ppl of the same gender and have sex...theres complications and they have to make do with other things...why? because they werent meant and made to be hving sex together. and soem ppl do choose to be gay. its kinda weird but some ppl want the best of both worlds or feel like being rebellious. and u can only b rebellious if ur doing something wrong right? i do believe that homoesexuality is wrong, but these ppl are my friends. i love them. they are no different from me in any way. i sin just like them. god loves them just like he loves me. were commanded to love one another as christ loved us (john 15:34-35 i think) so i wont bag on them. i wont hate. but i will point out their mistakes just like my friends tell me i shouldnt lie or something. if they choose not to change or stop, then its on them, but im still going to love them. i refuse to treat them any different than anyone. and those are my thughts on it, and they are based on the bible, and since i believe that the bible is perfectly right ( i mean no ones€ been able to disprove it yet after like wut ? 2000 yrs?) then i am pretty confident that most of my beliefs are correct too. but if not, then i hope god corrects me of it. only a vampire can love you forever. |
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justanotherstorm Member
since 2007-10-24
Posts 321 |
ok wow this made an interesting convo. well im a christian like my friend V well i believe everything she said on here and seriously YOU CAN LOVE PEOPLE BUT DISLIKE WHAT THEY DO GOD LOVES US BUT HE HATES SIN NOT US THERES A DIFFERENCE WITH LOVING PEOPLE AND HATING WHAT THEY DO I MEAN HAVE YOU EVERY HAD A FRIEND THAT DID SOMETHING WRONG TO YOU AND REALLY HATED WHAT THEY DID BUT YOU STILL LOVE THEM SAME WITH GOD HE LOVES US BUT HATES THE WRONG THINGS THE SINFUL THINGS IN US I AINT PERFECT AND IM A SINFUL PERSON GOD KNOWS THAT BUT HE STILL LOVES ME WHY CANT PEOPLE JUST LOVE PEOPLE BUT HATE WHAT THEY DO OR HOW THEY DO IT NOT HATE THE PERSON JUST THE WRONG THINGS THAT THEY DO I CONFESS IVE HATED PEOPLE AND I REGRET IT BUT GOD STILL LOVES ME AND IM RECOGNIZING THESE THINGS THAT I DO AND IM TRYING TO GET RIGHT BUT THE STATEMENT IM MAKING IS THAT LIKE IVE SAID GOD LOVES US HUMANS US PEOPLE BUT HE HATES SIN AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BEWTWEEN HATING PEOPLE AND HATING SIN.. |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
justanotherstorm is right ppl. GOd loves us no matter what. but we hurt him over and over again yet he is sooooo that he cant not love us. but he is just and perfect so he must h8 the sin only a vampire can love you forever. |
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SEA
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
if he is perfect then how can you say he hates anything? That is a human emotion. But? You can think what you like, and I will too. It's all good... |
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~frustrated writer~ Member
since 2008-02-25
Posts 84 |
what a job well done! |
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RevengeIsMine Senior Member
since 2006-07-08
Posts 820Australia |
Okay guys were off track here.. aint we all supposed to be commenting on how good Leah's work is,.. It is good Hugs too u Leah.. I think we all have a right to freedom of speach own opinion etc etc.. Some who believe some who don't.. Our opinions are unique and that of our OWN.. you don not have to agree with peoples opinions so tearing down their opinion is just jading what they believe in.. This isn't a match where somebody wins it is a religion, a belief and most of all a freedom of speech.. what we believe in will be different to the nxt person, person after that.. so don't go giving Leah a hard time about her opinion when its what she knows and what she has faith in. Nobody deserves to have their faith stripped from them.. |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
I didn't like the poem. |
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SEA
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
RevengeIsMine, I didn't say she had to agree with me. But with your soap box preaching you forget I don't have to agree with her either. I personally think it's great that you kids are exploring religion and having your OWN thoughts and opinions on it. It's not supposed to be a fight, she was sharing her views on the subject, I don't agree with some of the things she said. Big Whoop...you sound like the only one getting offended. Chill out....it's all fine. She isn't trying to force her opinion on me, and I'm not either. She said GOD HATED. I just wondered if he is perfect why does she think he hates? He isn't human...I was asking a question. If you don't like that then maybe you should think about WHY that bothers you that I would have MY OWN opinion and think my OWN thoughts. Liking someones poem and the actual thoughts contained in the poem is not a requirement here. I am allowed to say I do not agree with her. She is more than welcome to not agree with me too, I honestly do not care one whit. |
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Clockwork_Orange Senior Member
since 2007-03-23
Posts 620Space Camp, IN |
here guys think about this. if God is almighty, then could he make an unmovable boulder? because if the boulder is unmovable, then God wouldnt be able to move it. and if he could move it, then the boulder wouldnt be unmovable, which would mean God wasnt almighty. |
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justanotherstorm Member
since 2007-10-24
Posts 321 |
yea ppl have there own opinions but we can share ours doesnt mean we have to fight about it like someone said on here and God is perfect love is a human emotion 2 but yea we should stick with what we believe in well anyways back to the poem i loved it |
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hiddensmiles Senior Member
since 2008-02-07
Posts 514at the beach... i wish |
nice poem...but i dont know if God hates... doesnt it say that it hurts him when we sin but he loves us no matter what!! |
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hunnie_girl
since 2006-06-18
Posts 2567Canada |
yesss i agree the bible says it is wrong hunn.. butt if yooh think about it... who writes the bibles...? Christians do... and how do yooh know that whoever wrote the bible didnt just have their own opinion and decided to add it in.. I honestly think if if someone had the power to write the words that were said to himm by whoever(God?) then they could and most definately take advantage of that and see how far he can make people believe....?? (MY OPINION) and yess it is true that sex was made for a man and a woman it fits that way.. but then,, here the bible goes and tells us to marry for love not just for a good lay over once in awhile so therefore...... it's kind of contradictory 'cos the bible says it wrong for gay people... even though they are in it for love not sex....? hmm so many things involved in this you bring something up and it conflicts with another point... |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
sea: God is a jsut God, he has to hate sin because its wrong. if he is perfect, then he cannot just be ok with things that are not perfect and far from it. u get what i mean? frustrated writer: thank u!!!! revengeismine: thank u! and u r right, we all have our opinions and beliefs but i dont mind if u guys question mine because then i get to express my thoughts a beliefs, and hey u never knwo, when someone explains something to me in their POV a lot of times it changes my mindset and it might also be the same for you guys as well. but thanks again grinch: thats okay, u dont have to. but i do have a question: did u not like it bc of the subject? or was the poem kind bad? cuz if it was would u mind giving me some suggestions to fixing it up cuz like i wanna get better n all. only a vampire can love you forever. |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
sea: hey dude, ur right. we dont have to agree with each other but i do like our thoughts here and i am open to ur opinion.l personally so far uve given me the most thinking process requirement and i like that. hoepfully ur open to my thoughts and beliefs as well. clocky:yes of course God could make and unmovable boulder ( to us tho, bc hello nothin is un-anything for god. nothing is impossible for him) but god can do n e thing. he is on a different level than us so what is unmovable to us is movable to him. we cant compare him on that level bc ...well hes not on our level. lol he is almighty, which is why a lot of times its hard to comprenhend some things, but its really not practical to put in him a box like that since...hes on a differnet level lol. it says in the bible that if u have enough faith, he could empower us to move mountains. now im pretty sure that a mountain is umovable...to us. but god could move it. either by jsut doing it, or by force of nature such as earthquake or sumthin. and if need came and we had faith he could empower us to move mts as well. would he do it though? i think not, bc there is obviously ppl and animals on the mountain and they would probably die and stuff but who knows maybe someday someone will move a mt according to gods plan thanks justanotherstorm only a vampire can love you forever. |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
hiddensmiles: i think u may b right, i really do have to look it up in the bible if he actually HATES or not but i do knwo that it says he depises diff things and certain things are like an abomination...which arent those things basically hate? well ne who yea ur right he loves us no matter what!!! krysti i love u girl!..but it says in 1timothy 3:16 " all scripture is inspired by god and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of god be complete thoroghly equipped for every good work. and i think that even if the words of the bible were nto spoken to the authors (which btw are over 40 who all consectutively wrote together never contradicting each other over a period of like 300 yrs) that god would choose godly people to write it, people who wouldnt be so decieving. and i also think that if there was something to be proven wrong in the bible or that someone had figured out that an author had added their own opinions, then ppl would have stopped believing and reading it a long time ago( cuz..yea the bible is really old like 2000 yrs ish and its all over the world i do not think that the world is that stupid to not figure out after all this time that someone screwed up in writing it) and no where in the bible does it say to marry for love. but if u can find where it does, i will certainly apologize and difinately change my mindset, but i am almost 100% that absolutely no where in the bible does it say to marry for love. only a vampire can love you forever. |
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SEA
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Member Seraphic
since 2000-01-18
Posts 22676with you |
I don't have to agree with your thoughts, but I do respect them. I am glad to see kids having an open discussion about God. I think all kinds of things, and don't like to get into it too deep, unless we were face to face and had time to really talk...not like preach, but to talk and think what if this and what if that...I think it's healthy to question things...and to have faith. |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
thats cool. and thank u. although it would b nice if we both had the same thoughts about god , it is still interesting to see the diff views. if u ever do wanna do a what if this and what, lemme know or email me or sumthin. and if i dont personally know something, i can promise that ill find out from someone. but thanks again, hope u liked the poem, even tho u may not agree on the subject. only a vampire can love you forever. |
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justanotherstorm Member
since 2007-10-24
Posts 321 |
haha v u write a lot wow |
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Clockwork_Orange Senior Member
since 2007-03-23
Posts 620Space Camp, IN |
thats a common anser to my question is that its movable, but to humans. but i didnt mention humans at all. humans are irrelevent to this question. and the bible is awesome and all...but it was written by man, so its hard to take completly seriously. (in my oppinion) |
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hunnie_girl
since 2006-06-18
Posts 2567Canada |
ohhh i guess it doesn't say marry for love i donnoh i dont read the bible.. but i guess what people are taught when they go to church is not to have sex until you marry and why would anyone marry unless they loved someone.... this is getting into a deep discussion I was wondering if you alll would mind me moving this conversation to the discussion forums.. here is a link /pip/Forum29/HTML/002260.html Krysti |
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Grinch Member Elite
since 2005-12-31
Posts 2929Whoville |
quote: Partly the subject but that’s only because of the way you decided to present the poem, you’ve almost guaranteed to alienate any reader who questions the statements you present as fact. You could have avoided that alienation by writing in a different perspective or even simply injecting a little doubt. Confused? Try this example: Ducks are the brightest vivid green With fur upon there back They all wear tiny stethoscopes That’s why they like to quack This is a statement of purported fact - that my opinion is that ducks are all green, have fur on their back and wear stethoscopes. Any reader judging the accuracy of this statement would rate it pretty low - they just plain wouldn’t agree with it. Some people think that ducks are green With fur upon there back That they all wear small stethoscopes Which makes them like to quack This is a statement of purported fact - that there are people who believe that ducks are all green, have fur on their back and wear stethoscopes. Anyone reading this is judging whether some people would believe this, not whether ducks are actually green. If ducks were the brightest green With fur upon there back And they all wore small stethoscopes Would that be why quack This isn’t a statement of fact at all, the reader is simply posed a question. Anyone reading this is given the choice to decide what the answer is not forced to accept whatever answer you prefer. That’s not to say that the way you presented it was wrong, it’s just my opinion that it wasn’t the best way to do it. As to whether the structure and application of the poem was bad well that question is relative. It’s relative to who you are and where you are in terms of writing ability, if you’re the next American poet laureate then this poem is truly atrocious, if you’re a teenager just starting to write then it’s ok maybe even a good attempt, it could eve be an excellent attempt. It’s also relative to my taste in poetry, if I don’t like sonnets then even the best sonnet in the world isn’t likely to float my boat. Just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean it doesn’t have merit, it doesn’t mean it’s bad, it just means I didn’t like it. |
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surf_painter Member
since 2007-04-10
Posts 434Canada |
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to say I didn't like the way you wrote your poem and I definitely thought there didn't need to be a disclaimer because that is what started the out of control board. A poem should be able to stand on it's own words rather then have a disclaimer |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
clocky:humans cant be irrelevent bc we are nothing w/o him. i understand the whole written by humans thing, but it was inspired and it never contradicts itself 9even tho its written over a 40 yr period, on 3 continents, in 2 languages by over 40 different authors.) so i believe it.besides no science or geographical or historical discovery has ever disproved it kyrsti: exactly...u wouldnt...but it says its not right to marry someone of ur own sex or to have intercourse w/ them. so its wrong. but god still loves them and so do i grinch: thanx i get it. i do like the way i wrote this tho, bc i believe that wut i wrote is fact. but thanks ill remember this for l8r surfpainter: sry u didnt like it. and sry for the disclaimer but i wanted u all to know my thougths behind my writing. only a vampire can love you forever. |
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oceanvu2 Senior Member
since 2007-02-24
Posts 1066Santa Monica, California, USA |
Revenge, re: "Our opinions are unique and that of our OWN.." Well, uh, actually our opinions are not unique, and they are not made up out of whole cloth. I'm not precisely sure when we cease being a tabula rasa -- "a mind not yet affected by experiences, impressions, etc." -- but certainly, by the time we understand language, we are shaped by just about every notion, experience, and impression we come into contact with. This is not a positive or negative statement, it just has a "suchness" about it. We may have a "nature" in the sense of predispositions and abilities, but we are shaped by nurture. Best, Jimbeaux |
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BloodFairy18 Junior Member
since 2008-02-22
Posts 12Canada |
well im gay and i think that this poem is a very different perspective of how im use to people seeing gays and relgion , i respect the fact that you think its wrong but that you think god still loves us or so thats what i got from this poem , personally i think that "god" loves us just like everyone else and dosnt have a problem with our sexuality , if he did why would he have made us this way ?? either way i thought this was a nice poem , its kinda funny i came across it because latly iv been really wondering about this topic and if god excepts gay people and all that , guess il find out when i die lol |
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Essorant Member Elite
since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada |
Think how nonsensical it would be to call people "heteroracials" and "homoracials" for being involved with people of the same race or people of a different race. Well, that is how nonsensical it is to call people heterosexuals and homosexuals. I recommend avoiding such useless terminology. Any two people that intimately love each other deserve to be respected as lovers, soulmates, partners, and respectfully referred to with non-sexist and nonracist terms. Not called "homosexuals/heterosexuals" (including synonyms such as "gay/straight") or "homoracials/heteroracials", as if they and their relationship revolve around their sex/sexuality or their race. [This message has been edited by Essorant (03-22-2008 07:33 PM).] |
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oceanvu2 Senior Member
since 2007-02-24
Posts 1066Santa Monica, California, USA |
ESS: Very pertinent comment. I get the feeling (based on a slightly notorious very old post) that you have been modifying your stance over time. If we keep on moving towards agreement, I'm liable to start a reiteration of the novel "Grendel" in middling English... Bloodfairy: This discussion is going on in two forums. I respond in P101. Best, Jim Aitken |
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RevengeIsMine Senior Member
since 2006-07-08
Posts 820Australia |
I wasn't trying to have a go at anyone with my comments and i'm truely sorry if it come across that way.. I just wanted to state i don't think gay people are any different to all of us, i'm not a christian, but i do believe in god. I respect Leah's opinion just like i respect everyone elses. i don't have to agree with what leah says but i'm not going to make it the new topic of world war three |
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rebelangelv Senior Member
since 2007-05-28
Posts 538usa |
ok guys, u can talk on here and discuss it all u want but im getting tired of repling, so continue all u want and ill jump in here and there. love u guys! only a vampire can love you forever. |
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Earl Robertson Senior Member
since 2008-01-21
Posts 753BC, Canada |
Great poem! I agree with most everything that has been said and have a few comments. Sea: We are Gods children. He sent us here to learn, to grow and become more like him. Sining takes us away from him, hurts others as well as ourselves and is generaly unpleasant. God loves us, God LOVES us more than we can possibly imagine. Thus he is vehemently opposed to sin. He hates it as you would hate your four year old playing on the freeway. It is a hate bourne of love, an opposition to the perminate harm that comes from sin, and he uses the strong word of HATE to show us just how serious he is. Bloodfairy: I have cerebral palsy, I know people with mental disabilitys, and those who are in these kind of situations struggle every day. I count myself lucky that I do not struggle more. Why you might ask would God make me this way, or you that way? It is to test us, make us better through determined self mastery. To prove that we can rise above all things! I don't realy know why but I know that it will be right, and I plan to stay away from sin and depression! "Be Strong and Always Remember what made you you." Earl |
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